Fugu Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Ok, all right. It's a simple counterfeit then, not a farm roll. Fishy thing about it (for me) is that they are selling it openly at the farm (well, perhaps under the counter....). Anyways, I won't go and dig any deeper. Thanks for the explanation, @saintsmokealot! 1 hour ago, Doctorossi said: Unless something has changed, my understanding is that the Vegas Robaina brand has never used any tobacco actually sourced from the Robaina farm, so a farm roll at the Robaina farm with a VR band, being sold as a "VR Familiar" sounds quite questionable to me, too. Note, as well, the gold embossed "1845" statement is missing beneath the "R" on that band. The "1845" is right there on the band (bit hard to spot due to the light). Purportedly, if any then only wrappers would be used for VR. Cuchillas de Barbacoa, as most farms in San Luis, is famous for their tabaco tapado mainly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctorossi Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 30 minutes ago, Fugu said: The "1845" is right there on the band (bit hard to spot due to the light). You're right! I'm not sure how I missed it. Sorry for adding unnecessary confusion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post encephalization Posted August 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2017 Weekend in the Ozarks.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonPaolo Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 20.8.2017 at 5:17 PM, Customsfan said: I realize everyone is different, but how long of a smoke is that for you? One hour. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fugu Posted August 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2017 First Short Churchill ever for me, bought some singles back in 2011 (so, guess '10 or early '11 production) and somehow forgot about them. Not my fave format, always saw it more as one of those gimmicky "modern" cigars (the name alone! A no-no!) and this particular one felt more like >52 ring gauge compared to the others. But was in the mood for shorter smoke with a bit more smoke volume. Slightly looser draw than preferred but ok, and going along with the occasional wonky burn.... But - man....: What... A.... Smoke!! Intense and rich, tasted like it looked like - dark chocolate combined with fruity (cherry?) notes and with concentrated toasted tobacco flavour, ramping up till the end, with some woody notes on top. Lasted me more than 90 min. Ho-ly sh*t!! That came completely unexpected. Deeply impressed by that stick. Is that an Ex.4 on steroids?! Question to the more regular smokers of this one - has that been a lucky one-off or is that representative of that cigar? How about current production? Not so often seen mentioned on here, seems the Wide Church is more popular? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprouthog Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctorossi Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 38 minutes ago, Fugu said: (the name alone! A no-no!) I'm glad I'm not the only one that bristles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmokealot Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Fugu said: Ok, all right. It's a simple counterfeit then, not a farm roll. Fishy thing about it (for me) is that they are selling it openly at the farm (well, perhaps under the counter....). Anyways, I won't go and dig any deeper. Thanks for the explanation, @saintsmokealot! The "1845" is right there on the band (bit hard to spot due to the light). Purportedly, if any then only wrappers would be used for VR. Cuchillas de Barbacoa, as most farms in San Luis, is famous for their tabaco tapado mainly. All good Fugu please dig as deep as needed. If this is so fishy perhaps it has been a while since you have visited Cuba. After discussing this thread with my wife she informed of pics I forgot we had. Please notice the cigars with VR, Monte, and Cohiba labels on top of the table out in the open for sale. For conspiracy theorist please note I am wearing the same shirt in both pics. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofail Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Fugu said: First Short Churchill ever for me, bought some singles back in 2011 (so, guess '10 or early '11 production) and somehow forgot about them. Not my fave format, always saw it more as one of those gimmicky "modern" cigars (the name alone! A no-no!) and this particular one felt more like >52 ring gauge compared to the others. But was in the mood for shorter smoke with a bit more smoke volume. Slightly looser draw than preferred but ok, and going along with the occasional wonky burn.... But - man....: What... A.... Smoke!! Intense and rich, tasted like it looked like - dark chocolate combined with fruity (cherry?) notes and with concentrated toasted tobacco flavour, ramping up till the end, with some woody notes on top. Lasted me more than 90 min. Ho-ly sh*t!! That came completely unexpected. Deeply impressed by that stick. Is that an Ex.4 on steroids?! Question to the more regular smokers of this one - has that been a lucky one-off or is that representative of that cigar? How about current production? Not so often seen mentioned on here, seems the Wide Church is more popular? Can't answer any of your questions as I've only had a single short church...but the wrapper on that one is exquisite! Yum! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BellevilleMXZ Posted August 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2017 First ever Punch Punch, from a 24:24 box..ROTT..U guys are right, these are great! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LLC Posted August 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2017 Jorge rolled Monsdale, really never disappoint. Feeding time for the Koi. We're all happy at my place tonight Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post BuzzArd Posted August 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2017 An NC kind of day... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PigFish Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 The cigar that wasn't... It wasn't made well. It wasn't that good. It wasn't filled properly. It wasn't worth what I put into it. It did light, make smoke and cost me money. It wasn't a lot, but enough to know I wasn't considered much when it was made. It was a 2007 Monte #4. It wasn't a good choice of a cigar. It wasn't a good investment in time. It wasn't a good investment in humidor space. It wasn't as good as it should or could have been. It was a waste of tobacco! Cheers! -Piggy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 14 hours ago, BuzzArd said: An NC kind of day... Was this photo taken on the road doing 80? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzArd Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, 99call said: Was this photo taken on the road doing 80? Nope. I was only doing 75... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzArd Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Spent last evening ignoring Tallulah Bankhead's advice.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 25 minutes ago, BuzzArd said: Nope. I was only doing 75... Sorry mate didn't meant to criticise, my mate was nearly paralysed by someone driving whilst texting in UK. I didn't stop to think that you're probably on huge American? Australian? roads with nobody around. Shouldn't of said anything, this is not the place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzArd Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, 99call said: Sorry mate didn't meant to criticise, my mate was nearly paralysed by someone driving whilst texting in UK. I didn't stop to think that you're probably on huge American? Australian? roads with nobody around. Shouldn't of said anything, this is not the place Sorry to hear about your pal. Snapped photo on a huge country road. No traffic, without even looking. Definitely did NOT edit and post while moving. Promise that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Just now, BuzzArd said: Sorry to hear about your pal. Snapped photo without even looking. Definitely did NOT edit and post while moving. Promise that. No need to explain anything dude, the truth is, in life you just collect certain sensitivites to stuff and kneejerk comment without thinking (or at least I do). Everyone on here are pretty level headed sensible people, I'm sure you didn't take any undue risk with either yours or anyone else's safety. I shouldn't of said anything. My mate is fine (unbelievably,) crushed pelvis, and loads of other stuff, He took a crate of beer to the firemen that saved him, and they freaked out, they were sure he was dead. Doctors are miracle workers these days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 ... all goes to prove, those smoking NC cigars are taking unnecessary risks!!! Cheers! -Piggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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