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ElJefe Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 9 hours ago, sengjc said: Tatuaje Black Label. The last of the Black Labels that I have, these came in those black torpedo tubes. They just don't make non-Cubans like they used to. I hear you mate and for me these were hands down the best Tatuaje Black Label release period. These were all gone as soon as they hit the shelves in most places. I searched far and wide to score a box or two of these ten count en-tubo beauties, but to no avail. Sounds like these aged well also. They sure don't make NCs like that anymore. Wishing you Long Ashes. 2
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saintsmokealot Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 17 hours ago, Fugu said: Yup, what I thought. But banded ones sold openly and "officially" as farm rolls at the Robaina farm?!! They wouldn't risk it, would they? Again I bought these personally from the farm myself. They were marketed "officially" as Familiars and I bought them anyway. At $4USD a stick and the points I mentioned what would you guys call them? It's hard to believe no one else here that went to Finca Robiana around Dec 16 and can't back that labeled cigars were there for purchase unless they bought unlabeled Cohiba BHK 56. 3
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Fugu Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 8 hours ago, saintsmokealot said: Again I bought these personally from the farm myself. They were marketed "officially" as Familiars and I bought them anyway. At $4USD a stick and the points I mentioned what would you guys call them? It's hard to believe no one else here that went to Finca Robiana around Dec 16 and can't back that labeled cigars were there for purchase unless they bought unlabeled Cohiba BHK 56. No, it is not that I wouldn't believe what you say, certainly not (with "they wouldn't risk it" I was referring to Brandon's alluding to counterfeiters). But it is truly new for me to learn that original bands obviously leave the fabrica through official and approved channels to be put on farm rolls out there. Such a routine of course opens the door wide for illicit production. But perhaps it is an exception and a special agreement with the Robaina family, who knows. Other members perhaps with more insight here? 1
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saintsmokealot Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Fugu said: No, it is not that I wouldn't believe what you say, certainly not (with "they wouldn't risk it" I was referring to Brandon's alluding to counterfeiters). But it is truly new for me to learn that original bands obviously leave the fabrica through official and approved channels to be put on farm rolls out there. Such a routine of course opens the door wide for illicit production. But perhaps it is an exception and a special agreement with the Robaina family, who knows. Other members perhaps with more insight here? Truthfully I knowingly bought a counterfeit (I knew it wasn't a Familiar) but I bought it from the farm the tobacco was grown and rolled at and not from behind the old Partagas factory. Perhaps their motives is they will sell more this way. While I was there other tourist (obviously non-smokers) were buying the cigars like they were at an official LCDH. As for it being "official and approved" to have these labels on farm rolls I highly doubt it. Entire boxes of fakes can be had by counterfeiters so cigar labels that found their way to a farm are not that extraordinary. Hopefully someone else with more knowledge can shed some light. Either way the Robianas surely get presidential treatment in comparison to other farmers or should I say citizens. 2
Doctorossi Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Unless something has changed, my understanding is that the Vegas Robaina brand has never used any tobacco actually sourced from the Robaina farm, so a farm roll at the Robaina farm with a VR band, being sold as a "VR Familiar" sounds quite questionable to me, too. Note, as well, the gold embossed "1845" statement is missing beneath the "R" on that band. Somebody, call Hirochi. 1
saintsmokealot Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, Doctorossi said: Unless something has changed, my understanding is that the Vegas Robaina brand has never used any tobacco actually sourced from the Robaina farm, so a farm roll at the Robaina farm with a VR band, being sold as a "VR Familiar" sounds quite questionable to me, too. Note, as well, the gold embossed "1845" statement is missing beneath the "R" on that band. Somebody, call Hirochi As I mentioned when I purchased it I knew it was not a Familiar which is why I claimed it as a farm roll. I can't believe their is so much controversy around a $4 farm roll and not a double banded jaw breaker. I actually met Hirochi and his father that day but for some reason I didn't bring that up in conversation. Not surprisingly the tour guide said VR cigars are the only cigars that all the tobacco comes from their farm. At Prietos farm they will tell you the truth and no farmer knows what cigars their tobacco is used for. 2
Fugu Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Ok, all right. It's a simple counterfeit then, not a farm roll. Fishy thing about it (for me) is that they are selling it openly at the farm (well, perhaps under the counter....). Anyways, I won't go and dig any deeper. Thanks for the explanation, @saintsmokealot! 1 hour ago, Doctorossi said: Unless something has changed, my understanding is that the Vegas Robaina brand has never used any tobacco actually sourced from the Robaina farm, so a farm roll at the Robaina farm with a VR band, being sold as a "VR Familiar" sounds quite questionable to me, too. Note, as well, the gold embossed "1845" statement is missing beneath the "R" on that band. The "1845" is right there on the band (bit hard to spot due to the light). Purportedly, if any then only wrappers would be used for VR. Cuchillas de Barbacoa, as most farms in San Luis, is famous for their tabaco tapado mainly. 3
Doctorossi Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 30 minutes ago, Fugu said: The "1845" is right there on the band (bit hard to spot due to the light). You're right! I'm not sure how I missed it. Sorry for adding unnecessary confusion. 2
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DonPaolo Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 On 20.8.2017 at 5:17 PM, Customsfan said: I realize everyone is different, but how long of a smoke is that for you? One hour. 2
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