bassman Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 I've always heard about the aroma of ammonia in cigars that are not properly aged, but never experienced it until today. I opened a box of ABR 08 RASS, and noticed a mild smell of ammonia. Decided to try one anyway. Big mistake- the cigar was totally harsh & even smelled like ammonia while burning. My wife, who normally doesn't mind cigars, came down to see what the ^&^* I was smoking! Needless to say, that box will be buried for quite a while.
frenchkiwi Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 I've always heard about the aroma of ammonia in cigars that are not properly aged, but never experienced it until today. I opened a box of ABR 08 RASS, and noticed a mild smell of ammonia. Decided to try one anyway. Big mistake- the cigar was totally harsh & even smelled like ammonia while burning. My wife, who normally doesn't mind cigars, came down to see what the ^&^* I was smoking! Needless to say, that box will be buried for quite a while. yeah interesting thing is that some cigars are fine in that first year - wonder if it depends on the type of leaves used or simply that sometimes they roll up leaves which haven't been properly aged (apparently 1 year min. for all leaves now)? e.g. I've got a box of Hoyo Epicure Especial from Mar 09 that are definitely Not ready to smoke - too moist, a bit of ammonia.
El Presidente Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 I've always heard about the aroma of ammonia in cigars that are not properly aged, but never experienced it until today. I opened a box of ABR 08 RASS, and noticed a mild smell of ammonia. Decided to try one anyway. Big mistake- the cigar was totally harsh & even smelled like ammonia while burning. My wife, who normally doesn't mind cigars, came down to see what the ^&^* I was smoking! Needless to say, that box will be buried for quite a while. There are days when I light up on the deck and Diana or Lise will wander out and ask what the hell I am smoking as the aroma is just rank. I wouldn't say it happens to one cigar more than another. Just happens from time to time but certainly less and less since 06.
jquest63 Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Ouch! Definitely need to put away until ammonia disappears. I've not had this issue with CC's for the past few years. Typical of NC's during the "boom" years.
samb Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 This is pretty rare for me, but I havent smoked too many CCs just yet.
dicko Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I've only had this in the last inch or so and a lot of the time its not overly unpleasant. been very faint though...
Taino Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I agree with Prez here. All cuban boxes I've bought second half of 07, 08 & 09 have almost no ammonia. They are using tobacco with more years on it or we are just experiencing one of the consequences of HSA overstock?
thechenman Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I have yet to experience that ammonia phenomena...hope to never experience it.
bassman Posted November 3, 2009 Author Posted November 3, 2009 I have yet to experience that ammonia phenomena...hope to never experience it. It's not enjoyable. I only smoked an inch or so & had a sore throat the rest of the day.
Habanos2000 Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I imagine that leaving cigars in a humidor probably helps dissipate the ammonia smell. But is there any hope that those cigars will end up smoking good? If I understand the ammonia smell to be from leaves that were not fermented long enough, which is a time x temp equation, how does a 65 F degree humidor correct that?
MIKA27 Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 I imagine that leaving cigars in a humidor probably helps dissipate the ammonia smell. But is there any hope that those cigars will end up smoking good? If I understand the ammonia smell to be from leaves that were not fermented long enough, which is a time x temp equation, how does a 65 F degree humidor correct that? Does leaving a CC in the Humi correct it, that is a great question as whilst, I do not have any CC's that smell of amonia, yesterday I decided to have a RJ Short Churchill, smelt great, tasted ok but towards the 2nd third, had an overwhelmingly strong amonia flavour that did not subside. I had this stick in the humi for at least 12 months.... Not sure on box code as I purchased as singles early 2008.
sloth Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 the worse for me was a NC house brand from a place in New Jersey. They were a "gift"... but man it was strong! Nose buring strong! Opening the box they came in was like poppin' open a bottle of bleach!
sje Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 I shiver when i hear about an Ammonia smell, i have (had) a Cohiba jar since 1999, left this with Fidels (the then best cigar lounge in Melbourne) after a few years, a few changes in managers at the venue and a complete lack of care i collected all my jars, but the Cohiba were foul, really foul, mould (most of it wiped away) and very strong Ammonia, i have done all i can for nearly 4 years but have not been able to revive these. cant throw them, cant smoke them, i hope your issue is not similar sje 1
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