Lets pick the current and future cigar classics

[El Presidente]

We all have cigars spread out over numerous years, marques and vitolas. We have those we enjoy, those we hope beyond hope that they will improve, and then we hold those gems that we know currently are or will become classics/legends 6/6 smokerings or 95+/100 works of Habanos art.

In your heart of hearts list what you have in that final category. To make your personal list you can have no doubt. If possible list box code or at least year.

The list will invariably be small so if not a classic now, estimate how much more time they need to become one.

Remember....current and future classics only. Cigars which are (or you are certain will become) the epitome of Habanos greatness.

[El Presidente]

I will drip feed a few over the next couple of days.

Cohiba Siglo VI Aug 03 .........classic now.

[aavkk]

» I will drip feed a few over the next couple of days.

»

» Cohiba Siglo VI Aug 03 .........classic now.

Well, you read my mind with that one. It is by far tops in my collection and I am holding on to them dearly.

The only other smoke I can add to that with my limited experience is the POS Sep 06 box of Estupendos. I look forward to hearing others thoughts. I predict the 06 Cohiba Piramides will make the cut and Im waiting on a few in the mail.

[broozer]

the most balanced and best smoking cigars in my humidor, that i believe will only get better over the years are these:

ERDM grande de espana-BM NNSU

Partagas de Partagas #1-AUG, SEP or OCT '03 (all 3 have been superb)

Sancho Panza Corona-JUN 01

bruce

[strayvector]

Sir Winston '03 classic right now...07 a future classic...may surpass the '03s

PSP2 ENE05 - classic now

Party Lonsdale 2000 - damn close to classic now, definitely a classic in in 2 to 3 years

Tang Monarchs - classic now...Lisa, I need more...Please

[shrink]

There are a lot of very good and excellent cigars out there right now. But the only recent issues that I feel are likely to be classics:

Ramon Allones Estupendos POS SEP06

Cohiba Piramides EL POS OCT06

Partagas 898 Varnished GSO FEB06

Honorable Mention:

Ramon Allones Belicosos POS MAR07

Montecristo Especial No. 1 AEP ABR06

Por Larranaga Robustos EMA OCT07

[android]

Classic's Now:

Sir Winston 03

Cohiba Piramide EL 01

Sancho Panza Coronas Jun 01

Upmann Coronas Jun 01

Future Classic's

Cohiba Piramide EL 06

Upmann Monarcas 01

HDM DD 03 (smoking very well now...could be classified as a classic soon)

[habanohal]

» I will drip feed a few over the next couple of days.

»

» Cohiba Siglo VI Aug 03 .........classic now.

I cant see this on sir........................ But would love to try one that is good tasteing. Havent had 1 yet. But to each his own.

[Jokermann]

» I will drip feed a few over the next couple of days.

»

» Cohiba Siglo VI Aug 03 .........classic now.

Classics now :

98 - Punch DC

01 - Cohiba Lanceros

01 - Black Prince (mine a very tasty :-D )

98 - HDM Depute

Future:

06 - PL Lonsdale RE

06/07 Boli GMs (I stocked up!)

07 - Siglo III

VR Maestros (Show the most promise from the REs yet IMHO)

[Colt45]

two that stand out for me right now:

Romeo y Julieta Exhibicion No.4 PUL EOOO (September 1999) - defines the term classic.

Bolivar Coronas Gigantes MAY03 - classic without breaking a sweat.

[brian1]

Classics Now:

2004 Cohiba Sublimes

2001 PSD#3 EL

2000 Partagas Piramides EL

Future Classics:

2007 Edmundo Dante 109 (first release)

BGM 06/07

2004 Partagas Serie D #1 EL

2006 RA Estupendo

[sje]

» Classics Now:

Partagas Serie D2 JMM jul 03 (my fav)

Cohiba Sublime GEP Sep 04

Monte Robusto Mill jar

Partagas Pyramid EL SUA OCT 00 + ?AV DIC 00

» Future Classics:

Partagas serie D1 NJP 04

D4 Reserva

H.upman Mag 50 KBE Mar 05

Edmundo Dante ? of 600 first release

;-)

[kjellfrick]

Classics Now:

Monte Robusto Mill jar

Partagas Piramide Mill jar

Future Classics:

Sir Winston -03

Partagas Lonsdales cab

PL Magnificos

Edmundo Dantes

[KB24]

» 07 - Siglo III

Jokermann,

I am sitting on some 05's and have smoked 4 of them. 3 were severely plugged but the 1 that was not was amazing. Are you having any plug issues with your III's?

-Patrick

Current Classic:

GEP(might be off bc bottom of box is fading) Oct 04 Monte Especial #2

Future Classic:

OEB March 06 PLPC's

[bassman]

Current...

2002 cabinet Partagas Lonsdales

2002 RA 898

MAR 06 MC#2

03 Bolivar CGs

01 SLR DCs

Future

05 RA Eminencias

PL Robusto

06 & 07 MC#1s

06 & 07 Bolivar CEs

07 SLR DCs

[FireDigger]

» We all have cigars spread out over numerous years, marques and vitolas. We

» have those we enjoy, those we hope beyond hope that they will improve, and

» then we hold those gems that we know currently are or will

» become classics/legends 6/6 smokerings or 95+/100 works of Habanos

» art.

»

» In your heart of hearts list what you have in that final category. To make

» your personal list you can have no doubt. If possible list box code

» or at least year.

» The list will invariably be small so if not a classic now, estimate how

» much more time they need to become one.

»

» Remember....current and future classics only. Cigars which are (or you are

» certain will become) the epitome of Habanos greatness.

This thread makes me wonder... What dictates the cigar is going to get better with age? A fellow BOTL also asked the same thing on another forum and made me curious about the subject. I know MRN talks about cogeners, but what is that exactly? You guys have very decent lists, but what makes you think they're going to improve, other than just a hunch? Is there something specific within smoking a cigar that makes you say, "ahh, it's got it. This one is going to age well."?

[Claudius]

» There are a lot of very good and excellent cigars out there right now. But

» the only recent issues that I feel are likely to be classics:

»

» Ramon Allones Estupendos POS SEP06

»

» Cohiba Piramides EL POS OCT06

»

» Partagas 898 Varnished GSO FEB06

Agreed. My boxes are POS NOV 06 for the CoPis, though. Same thing, I guess.

[Don Candido]

» We all have cigars spread out over numerous years, marques and vitolas. We

» have those we enjoy, those we hope beyond hope that they will improve, and

» then we hold those gems that we know currently are or will

» become classics/legends 6/6 smokerings or 95+/100 works of Habanos

» art.

»

» In your heart of hearts list what you have in that final category. To make

» your personal list you can have no doubt. If possible list box code

» or at least year.

» The list will invariably be small so if not a classic now, estimate how

» much more time they need to become one.

»

» Remember....current and future classics only. Cigars which are (or you are

» certain will become) the epitome of Habanos greatness.

Interestingly, when I saw this topic a second ago, one cigar came to mind. Only one. There are obviously many other examples, but what I thought of, which was bolstered by a recent purchase of these from Czar which were much the same:

Cohiba Piramides, EL 2001. These are excellent smokes! IMNSHO...

Love,

DC

[Don Candido]

» Cohiba Piramides, EL 2001. These are excellent smokes! IMNSHO...

»

» Love,

» DC

In addition, I also thought of the following:

Maybe Cuaba Distinguido Jar Cigars from 2000 approx - (millenium smokes)

Maybe Cohiba 35th Anniv. Humidor smokes - any of them.

Maybe Hoyo de Monterey 2004? Humidor with 50 Gran Piramides and 50 Salomones. The blend in this humidor is very, very tasty!

Maybe the Partagas 160th Humidor (I have not tried the 150th). The 160th are young, but very enticing!

Love,

DC

[Jokermann]

» » 07 - Siglo III

»

» Jokermann,

»

» I am sitting on some 05's and have smoked 4 of them. 3 were severely

» plugged but the 1 that was not was amazing. Are you having any plug

» issues with your III's?

»

» -Patrick

»

Had 8 out of my box so far, and all have been amazing. One was a little tight, but far from plugged.

[El Presidente]

» I cant see this on sir........................ But would love to try one

» that is good tasteing. Havent had 1 yet. But to each his own.

Sampled from a single box or from various? I must say I am surprised mate as the examples I have tried are simply stunning which has been the general consensus amongst those who hold them.

I will see if I can dig one up for you.

[El Presidente]

» This thread makes me wonder... What dictates the cigar is going to get

» better with age? A fellow BOTL also asked the same thing on another forum

» and made me curious about the subject. I know MRN talks about cogeners,

» but what is that exactly? You guys have very decent lists, but what makes

» you think they're going to improve, other than just a hunch? Is there

» something specific within smoking a cigar that makes you say, "ahh, it's

» got it. This one is going to age well."?

In a young cigar I look for certain things if I deem it worthy to age.

Depth of flavour

Real signs of underlying complexity

Viscosity/ weight on the palate (thickness/richness/density of smoke and flavour).

A little mongrel through a touch of tannin

[Colt45]

» You guys have very decent lists, but what makes you think they're going to improve,

» other than just a hunch?

As Nero Wolfe would say - intelligence guided by experience.

[mkz]

» PL Magnificos

Still holding on to mine, and will do so for atleast oooh.... lets say 5-10 years minimum...

[hoyopr]

Bolivar Inmensas POS ENE 06