MaytagMan Posted December 2, 2007 Posted December 2, 2007 Thanks for the great review... looking forward to mine arriving!
El Presidente Posted December 3, 2007 Posted December 3, 2007 » Great review. you guys have me salivating over these but my funds are tied » up for the holidays. hopefully they are still available in the new year. » » Rob, do you think these will be available in singles and when? thanks My elves are shipping as fast and as safely as possible. Lisa told me this afternoon that she has secured another couple of thousand so we may be in a position to do singles come mid month. Our biggest problem is timeframe as we stop all international shipping around the 17th of December(every order wil be shipped...relax) until we re-open on the 7th of January. Either way, there will be plenty ;-)
yossie Posted December 3, 2007 Posted December 3, 2007 » Lisa told me this afternoon that she has secured another couple of » thousand so we may be in a position to do singles come mid month. Our » biggest problem is timeframe as we stop all international shipping around » the 17th of December(every order wil be shipped...relax) until we re-open » on the 7th of January. Either way, there will be plenty ;-) Sounds very nice! BTW, aren't there sales no more? I need cigars for the new year.
jasonM Posted December 3, 2007 Posted December 3, 2007 At the recommendation of Rob, I stopped by the Red Chamber Cigar Divan this morning here in Hong Kong, and purchased one of these (among other singles). My example wasn't wet at all and was firm to the touch, but not dried out hard. This cigar was absolutely spectacular. Granted I have a neophyte palate, but it truly was remarkable. The first inch seemed like a large PLPC but then it just burst with flavors. Earlier this morning I also had a stunning MC EL Robusto. So I've been 2 for 2 today with great cigars. Last night I had a Genios as well as a BGM and I have to say this cigar was better than both. I will try both again, as my taste buds "may" have been messed up from the Thai food I had for dinner. Back to the PL though...I would advise going ahead and trying one of these. If yours is a bit moist, dry box it for a day or so and then enjoy. I personally couldn't imagine having the fortitude to age a box of these.
El Presidente Posted December 3, 2007 Posted December 3, 2007 » Sounds very nice! » BTW, aren't there sales no more? » I need cigars for the new year. Yoss we will do a sale on selected general stock before the 17th but we have to keep an eye on packing and shipping. With the PL Robusto only arriving last Thursday my elves are working their behinds off just getting the orders out and they are committed at least until the end of this week on those and general orders. I could help out but I would only mess things up Jason...great to see that you made the Red Chamber Divan in Hong Kong
COJ Posted December 3, 2007 Posted December 3, 2007 Hat off to the guys that smoke there cigars young... I have a hard time break a box without some years of age on it...feels like a waste to smoke'em young...yet I know I need input to steer my own purchases...
Ken Gargett Posted November 15, 2008 Author Posted November 15, 2008 Great appearance, dark leathery wrapper with the obvious stocky character of robustos. Smelt cold, very young, like new kid leather. Kicks off beautifully, rich flavour, hints of choc and raisins. Still very young and perhaps a little moist yet but the immediate impression is of massive potential. Expect a sweet core of stonefruit and honey and nuts. Quite a full flavoured cigar with a slow and even draw. When these settle in 6 to 12 months, should be spectacular. Heady aromas now. An earthy character. This will sound a little odd but smoking this cigar made me feel like I was sitting back at the Nacional having a mojito and enjoying some smokes we’d just picked up from the factory. I think it is that youth/moistness/freshness that comes through that you often get there from recently rolled smokes. Hell of a lot cheaper than a flight there and back! Flavours continued to build. Exciting stuff. I have ordered a box before I even finished this one, such enormous potential (guess that is why Rob tolerates me at the Czars). I think that they are terrific value (remind me of the value that some of the LE’s were in the early days before Havana discovered that they could go for heaps more). Hopefully the RR’s won’t go that way but get on board these. Worth 91-92 now and with a bullet. Well now that Ken has reviewed the cigar...on my deck...my cigar... I might as well add my 2 cents. We have a future classic. I agree with his review but the cigars are hellishly young and moist. It is testament to the blend that we still get as many flavours as described. I think they need another 6 months to dry out and then they could be absoultely anything. I will dry box a few to sample again in a week to 10 days. If you haven't already reserved a box, contact Lise and do so. It is a worthy investment. When you do receive your cigars...go ahead and smoke one if you really have to ...but it will be a waste. Wait the 30 days for them to stabilise and try one. Try the next 1 July.
Don Candido Posted November 15, 2008 Posted November 15, 2008 It is a worthy investment. » When you do receive your cigars...go ahead and smoke one if you really have » to ...but it will be a waste. Wait the 30 days for them to stabilise and » try one. Try the next 1 July. [/b] » » » I said I would not post again about the PL Robusto. I guess I lied. I am smoking this cigar now - out of the box I showed pictures of.. The picture above shows about how far I am into mine. (It is the picture Ken and Rob took.) It just settled down enough for me to get a good idea of the flavor. This tobacco is so young and moist, the first 1/2 inch (=~1.25cm) or so of the cigar, the smoke was too bold and so in my face, it was hard to tell what the underlying flavors might be. And now that it has opened up a little, the richness and youth are pretty amazing. I have only one comment about Rob's post. I think you'd be wise not to smoke one for a long while. You will immediately realize Ken and Rob are right about the age and the potential. Then the next thought will be (or at least was for me), when will I have this next? It would not matter how far back in my humidor I had the box buried, I would remember it and go for it often. And I will. I will want to see how it progresses with age. I am sure the flavors will not settle for a while. It will be changing for a year at least (imnsho.) It needs to dry up first, before much will happen to it age-wise in a humidor, so it could be a very long while before this cigar hits its potential. I will caveat that comment by saying I like to smoke aged cigars. The fact I would want to keep trying these would cause me to realize I HAD to buy another box to age (thank you, Rob). So, if you want to age them (even for a 6-12 months), which I would suggest is wise - I wouldn't try them for at least six months. If you are going to try them, you might as well get two boxes now and hope by the time you are through the first, you have moved on to something else and can leave the other box to age. If Ken really ages a single box after having had that smoke, he has far more self control than he would lead you to believe from his (and others') posts. In the middle of the cigar, the flavor took a right turn and started smelling of a sharp cedar flavor. It is hard to tell where this smoke will end up with proper age, but it does not seem possible it will become something disappointing to me. It is so moist, it seems to smoke in a slightly muffled manor, almost as if it wants to go out, which is causing me, whether necessary or not, to draw on the cigar more often than I like to. They need time to get to their best. I am 2/3's through it now, and the sharp cedar is gone it has turned into a soft, but extremely rich and strong leather/tobacco flavor. Yummy! The plain fact of the matter is it is a damn good cigar! Cheers, Don Candido (sorry for the long posts. I ramble when I get excited about things)
Ginseng Posted November 15, 2008 Posted November 15, 2008 » It is a worthy investment. » » When you do receive your cigars...go ahead and smoke one if you really » have » » to ...but it will be a waste. Wait the 30 days for them to stabilise » and » » try one. Try the next 1 July. [/b] » » » » » » » » I said I would not post again about the PL Robusto. I guess I lied. » » I am smoking this cigar now - out of the box I showed pictures of.. The » picture above shows about how far I am into mine. (It is the picture Ken » and Rob took.) » » It just settled down enough for me to get a good idea of the flavor. This » tobacco is so young and moist, the first 1/2 inch (=~1.25cm) or so of the » cigar, the smoke was too bold and so in my face, it was hard to tell what » the underlying flavors might be. And now that it has opened up a little, » the richness and youth are pretty amazing. » » I have only one comment about Rob's post. I think you'd be wise not to » smoke one for a long while. » » You will immediately realize Ken and Rob are right about the age and the » potential. Then the next thought will be (or at least was for me), when » will I have this next? It would not matter how far back in my humidor I » had the box buried, I would remember it and go for it often. And I will. I » will want to see how it progresses with age. I am sure the flavors will not » settle for a while. It will be changing for a year at least (imnsho.) It » needs to dry up first, before much will happen to it age-wise in a » humidor, so it could be a very long while before this cigar hits its » potential. I will caveat that comment by saying I like to smoke aged » cigars. » » The fact I would want to keep trying these would cause me to realize I HAD » to buy another box to age (thank you, Rob). So, if you want to age them » (even for a 6-12 months), which I would suggest is wise - I wouldn't try » them for at least six months. If you are going to try them, you might as » well get two boxes now and hope by the time you are through the first, you » have moved on to something else and can leave the other box to age. » » If Ken really ages a single box after having had that smoke, he has far » more self control than he would lead you to believe from his (and others') » posts. » » In the middle of the cigar, the flavor took a right turn and started » smelling of a sharp cedar flavor. It is hard to tell where this smoke will » end up with proper age, but it does not seem possible it will become » something disappointing to me. » » It is so moist, it seems to smoke in a slightly muffled manor, almost as » if it wants to go out, which is causing me, whether necessary or not, to » draw on the cigar more often than I like to. They need time to get to » their best. » » I am 2/3's through it now, and the sharp cedar is gone it has turned into » a soft, but extremely rich and strong leather/tobacco flavor. Yummy! » » The plain fact of the matter is it is a damn good cigar! » » Cheers, » Don Candido » » (sorry for the long posts. I ramble when I get excited about things) Stop it! Stop it! Wait, oh yeah. Cab on the way. Carry on. That is all. :-D Wilkey
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