partagas serie connaisseur No 3.

[Ken Gargett]

Rob recently suggested i try one of these. i'm not usually a panetela sort of guy, even when they are quite long, though i do like the La Gloria Habano ‘Medialle D’Or No 1. this offered nutty, roasted flavours, was quite rich with deceptive fullness and richness of flavour - it really did creep up on you. there was also a mix of earth and especially minty notes. i think it has excellent promise and if you are like me, it is worth reconsidering. 89.

[bassman]

Excellent "old style" Partagas flavor. Really enjoying a boxof the #1s from 98. The #1s are slightly wider than the MdeO#1.

[Mikey]

» Rob recently suggested i try one of these. i'm not usually a panetela sort

» of guy, even when they are quite long, though i do like the La Gloria

» Habano ‘Medialle D’Or No 1. this offered nutty, roasted flavours, was

» quite rich with deceptive fullness and richness of flavour - it really did

» creep up on you. there was also a mix of earth and especially minty notes.

» i think it has excellent promise and if you are like me, it is worth

» reconsidering. 89.

Ken,was this a fairly recent issue?

[shrink]

quite rich with deceptive fullness and richness of flavour

Kinda sneaks up on you, doesn't it? I love these, and find the Series du Connaisseur to be the best Partagas has to offer, especially with a few years on 'em.

[Ken Gargett]

»

» Ken,was this a fairly recent issue?

a loose single or two from rob so couldn't tell you specifics. my feeling was it was quite youthful.

as for shrink's 'best of partagas' comment, have not smokeds enough to comment definitely but i remain a big fan of the lusi. so much good stuff comes from partagas that 'best of' is a big call. that said, i look forward to trying quite a few more from the series.

[shrink]

so much good stuff comes from partagas that 'best of' is a big call. that said, i look forward to trying quite a few more from the series.

Ken, you're absolutely right. So much good stuff comes from Partagas. There are many praiseworthy vitolas, including the marvelous P2 piramide. But I stand by my assertion. An aged Serie du Connaisseur is nonpareil.

[Tampa1257]

» »

» » Ken,was this a fairly recent issue?

»

» a loose single or two from rob so couldn't tell you specifics. my feeling

» was it was quite youthful.

» as for shrink's 'best of partagas' comment, have not smokeds enough to

» comment definitely but i remain a big fan of the lusi. so much good stuff

» comes from partagassmoked that 'best of' is a big call. that said, i look

» forward to trying quite a few more from the series.

Ken,

While I have not smoked a Partagás that I did not like, I would say that the Lusi is only a shadow of its previous self after they changed the blend in the late 90's. The Lusi use to be a bold strong, richly earthy cigar and would stand up to any cigar produced with the full bodied essence that came from it. Today, (after the blend change), it is much milder, and just can not be compared to what it use to be.

The last "Great" Lusi I smoked would be those from 1996. What reminded me of this was the thread that Rob started with the choice of three great cigars he was offering to those that attended the function at the Czar House.

Personally, I would vote that the Partagás Serie du Connaisseur No. 1 is the Best Partagás currently in production. The blend is an "Old School" blend that has not changed to conform to the general trend of milder cigars for the benefit of the newer cigar smokers. The Milder Blends may have started due to the Ligero shortage during the late 90's, but Altadis has been supporting the trend and producing cigars that support this trend (due to in my opinion to attract those that are a: Newer to cigars, b: have not developed a palate and are not able to appreciate a stronger cigar, and c: creating a demand level for additional purchases of cigars because the satisfaction level has not been met by the consumer due to not having enough strength from the cigar). Now these are my opinions. These opinions along with the trend of producing larger ring cigars that require additional Volado leaf to create the extra girth and produce the larger ring Habanos with the tasteless Volado leaf, in my opinion have muted the flavor and dulled the intensity of the flavor to make the cigars more approachable to cigar smokers that do not have a sophisticated a palate and generate additional shelf turns from these newer cigar smokers.

I have stated before that my opinion is that the ratio of Ligero and Seco are higher in proportion in the smaller ring Habanos which creates a cigar that has fuller body and fuller and more intense flavor for the consumer.

The Serie du Connaisseur No.1, No. 2 and No.3 all provide an "Old School" flavor profile that has not changed toward the trend of the other vitolas and all the newer vitolas coming on the market. It is my supposition that if you were to take a early 1990's du Connaisseur and a current production du Connaisseur, have each well rested to make sure there was no "travel sickness", that a reviewer would be hard pressed to differentiate a difference in the blend of flavors. Now granted, the older cigar might taste somewhat more mature due to the age of the tobacco, but the flavors would be nearly identical in my opinion. While if you were to perform the same test with a Lusi, the older Lusi would display a flavor and blend difference that you would not even believe they were the same cigar.

Now, for my palate, I much prefer a well developed and "Old School' flavor profile in the cigars I smoke, so that is why I would say that I would personally tell anyone out there that without any doubt, that the Partagás Serie du Connaisseur (Serie 1, 2, or 3) is "THE BEST" Partagás on the Market and "THE BEST" Partagás made.

But I have been affectionately called a Partagás ***** too...........

[shrink]

See...

[Ken Gargett]

» » »

» » » Ken,was this a fairly recent issue?

» »

» » a loose single or two from rob so couldn't tell you specifics. my

» feeling

» » was it was quite youthful.

» » as for shrink's 'best of partagas' comment, have not smokeds enough to

» » comment definitely but i remain a big fan of the lusi. so much good

» stuff

» » comes from partagassmoked that 'best of' is a big call. that said, i

» look

» » forward to trying quite a few more from the series.

»

» Ken,

»

» While I have not smoked a Partagás that I did not like, I would say that

» the Lusi is only a shadow of its previous self after they changed the

» blend in the late 90's. The Lusi use to be a bold strong, richly earthy

» cigar and would stand up to any cigar produced with the full bodied

» essence that came from it. Today, (after the blend change), it is much

» milder, and just can not be compared to what it use to be.

»

» The last "Great" Lusi I smoked would be those from 1996. What

» reminded me of this was the thread that Rob started with the choice of

» three great cigars he was offering to those that attended the function at

» the Czar House.

»

» Personally, I would vote that the Partagás Serie du Connaisseur No. 1 is

» the Best Partagás currently in production. The blend is an "Old

» School" blend that has not changed to conform to the general trend of

» milder cigars for the benefit of the newer cigar smokers. The Milder

» Blends may have started due to the Ligero shortage during the late 90's,

» but Altadis has been supporting the trend and producing cigars that

» support this trend (due to in my opinion to attract those that are a:

» Newer to cigars, b: have not developed a palate and are not able to

» appreciate a stronger cigar, and c: creating a demand level for additional

» purchases of cigars because the satisfaction level has not been met by the

» consumer due to not having enough strength from the cigar). Now these are

» my opinions. These opinions along with the trend of producing larger ring

» cigars that require additional Volado leaf to create the extra girth and

» produce the larger ring Habanos with the tasteless Volado leaf, in my

» opinion have muted the flavor and dulled the intensity of the flavor to

» make the cigars more approachable to cigar smokers that do not have a

» sophisticated a palate and generate additional shelf turns from these

» newer cigar smokers.

»

» I have stated before that my opinion is that the ratio of Ligero and Seco

» are higher in proportion in the smaller ring Habanos which creates a cigar

» that has fuller body and fuller and more intense flavor for the consumer.

»

» The Serie du Connaisseur No.1, No. 2 and No.3 all provide an "Old

» School" flavor profile that has not changed toward the trend of the

» other vitolas and all the newer vitolas coming on the market. It is my

» supposition that if you were to take a early 1990's du Connaisseur and a

» current production du Connaisseur, have each well rested to make sure

» there was no "travel sickness", that a reviewer would be hard pressed to

» differentiate a difference in the blend of flavors. Now granted, the older

» cigar might taste somewhat more mature due to the age of the tobacco, but

» the flavors would be nearly identical in my opinion. While if you were to

» perform the same test with a Lusi, the older Lusi would display a flavor

» and blend difference that you would not even believe they were the same

» cigar.

»

» Now, for my palate, I much prefer a well developed and "Old School'

» flavor profile in the cigars I smoke, so that is why I would say that I

» would personally tell anyone out there that without any doubt, that the

» Partagás Serie du Connaisseur (Serie 1, 2, or 3) is "THE BEST"

» Partagás on the Market and "THE BEST" Partagás made.

»

» But I have been affectionately called a Partagás ***** too...........

i have certainly heard of the joys of the older lusi's tho have heard a range of cutoff dates. somewhere between late '80s and mid '90s seem to cover it. would love to get hold of a few to have a look but failing that, it sounds like this series might be the way to go. all that said, the lusi's of today are not bad, especially with some age. i'm almost finished with a box of 97s i got from rob and they have been wonderful.

[cigardawg]

These are fantastic. I have sampled from both '98 and '99 boxes. Both have been delicious. I have some newer ones, but they will be sitting and aging. The Partagas SdC line are some of the best cigars on the market, IMHO.

[aitker]

» These are fantastic. I have sampled from both '98 and '99 boxes. Both

» have been delicious. I have some newer ones, but they will be sitting and

» aging. The Partagas SdC line are some of the best cigars on the market,

» IMHO.

The number 3 are the best cigar I have come across in the short time I have been sampling cuban cigars. They have a smooth, almost sweet taste.