Drguano Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Chas.Alpha said: The Monte A’s are real. What’s mythical is the idea that anyone other than a pack of great-great grandchildren will ever get to smoke them. 👿 1 1
westg Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Does this game actually have a wild card play off. Where if you don't qualify for play off's/ finals you can still find a way in ?
Ken Gargett Posted January 14 Posted January 14 41 minutes ago, westg said: Does this game actually have a wild card play off. Where if you don't qualify for play off's/ finals you can still find a way in ? no, top team in the two conferences gets a bye first week while the next three division winners play the top three teams which did not win their division. but if you lose at any time in the playoffs, that is it. not like AFL or NRL where the top team may get another crack if they lose their first playoff/semi-final game. and the superbowl is the game between the two conference winners. it has long been the pinnacle, though there were times when it was not quite so always remember seeing some of the redskins players back in the early 80s - the conference title game against dallas was way more important to them. once they had win that, they were more than happy to play in the superbowl, especially as they got paid a bundle back then, but winning the superbowl was not as important as beating dallas. things have changed. 1
Chibearsv Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, westg said: Does this game actually have a wild card play off. Where if you don't qualify for play off's/ finals you can still find a way in ? There was a time when only the division winners qualified for playoffs. Once other non-division-winning teams were allowed into the playoffs, they were called wild cards and they each play a division winner while the best division winner in each conference gets a bye. Still single elimination but an additional few games got added. After the first round of playoffs, 8 teams remain for a typical round robin. 1
El Presidente Posted January 15 Author Posted January 15 Look at those remaining playoffs. Forgetting if you have a horse still in the race, wouldn't you love to see the Redskins (aka Daniels) make a run
alloy Posted January 15 Posted January 15 6 hours ago, El Presidente said: Look at those remaining playoffs. Forgetting if you have a horse still in the race, wouldn't you love to see the Redskins (aka Daniels) make a run O, Hail Yeah! HTTR!!!!
VeguerosMAN Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Detroit has big problems with running quarterbacks and their defense is banged up. Washington 36- Det 20.
Chibearsv Posted January 15 Posted January 15 7 hours ago, El Presidente said: Look at those remaining playoffs. Forgetting if you have a horse still in the race, wouldn't you love to see the Redskins (aka Daniels) make a run I don't have a real rooting interest for any of these teams but I'd like to see the Bills get a SB victory.
chasy Posted January 15 Posted January 15 7 hours ago, VeguerosMAN said: Detroit has big problems with running quarterbacks and their defense is banged up. Washington 36- Det 20 I think Lions are gonna hang 40 on them. 1
VeguerosMAN Posted January 15 Posted January 15 6 hours ago, chasy said: I think Lions are gonna hang 40 on them... I don't trust Jared Goff in big games. I think he's going to get sacked 9+ times like the Vikings QB. Stiff quarterback days are numbered in my opinion.
gormag38 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 7 hours ago, VeguerosMAN said: Detroit has big problems with running quarterbacks and their defense is banged up. Agreed. But the Lions defense is beginning to get healthy(ish). Bye week was HUGE for DET. Not to mention Montgomery is back most likely. The biggest weakness for WAS has been stopping the run game...it's an area where the Lions absolutely dominate. I think WAS will make it interesting at times, but ultimately not have the horses as the game goes on. 6 hours ago, VeguerosMAN said: I don't trust Jared Goff in big games. The past three years I can't think of a 'big' game that he hasn't been pretty damn good. Hell even the collapse to SF in last years NFC was play calling related more so than anything.
VeguerosMAN Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, gormag38 said: Agreed. But the Lions defense is beginning to get healthy(ish). Bye week was HUGE for DET. Not to mention Montgomery is back most likely. The biggest weakness for WAS has been stopping the run game...it's an area where the Lions absolutely dominate. I think WAS will make it interesting at times, but ultimately not have the horses as the game goes on. The past three years I can't think of a 'big' game that he hasn't been pretty damn good. Hell even the collapse to SF in last years NFC was play calling related more so than anything. Goff, to me, was never an elite QB like Brady, Manning, Mahomes etc. I think he will crumble under pressure. On the other hand, JD has been the most clutch QB, and Washington never had a blowout loss this season. Washington does enough in defense to put JD in a position to win games.
gormag38 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 20 hours ago, VeguerosMAN said: Goff, to me, was never an elite QB like Brady, Manning, Mahomes etc. No argument there. Those guys are all first ballot HOFs almost assuredly. Unless Goff takes off, I don't see him in that category. I think JD can be special as well and would be amazing for the league if the commanders become relevant again. He needs to protect himself and avoid the dreaded 'sophmore slump' that Stroud has been victim of this year. 21 hours ago, VeguerosMAN said: Washington does enough in defense to put JD in a position to win games. We shall see on Saturday. A teams strength going against a teams weakness. Should be great cinema on Saturday. I know I'm looking forward to it!
chasy Posted January 16 Posted January 16 If Washington wins, it will likely be an amazing performance by Daniels and as a result, a great game to watch. I think Detroit will pull it out. Stands to reason the rookie will be a bigger pressure rush than the vet. 1
Ken Gargett Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 1/16/2025 at 1:44 AM, VeguerosMAN said: I don't trust Jared Goff in big games. I think he's going to get sacked 9+ times like the Vikings QB. Stiff quarterback days are numbered in my opinion. if goff gets sacked 9+ times then his own team will need to account for more than half of them. we have not looked like sacking a team nine times since the days of Kerrigan or Charles mann and dexter. especially not a team that has just won 20 games or whatever.
Ken Gargett Posted January 16 Posted January 16 27 minutes ago, chasy said: If Washington wins, it will likely be an amazing performance by Daniels and as a result, a great game to watch. I think Detroit will pull it out. Stands to reason the rookie will be a bigger pressure rush than the vet. i honestly don't see us getting close but in saying that, we have only lost one game by more than one score all year and that was the first game to tampa in the opening round. so that is amazing. but i can't see it again. Detroit is far too strong in areas that will hurt us. but the pressure issue is something i would challenge. this kid has been under pressure so many times this year and it does not seem to bother him in the least. just does not worry him. i would suggest that Detroit and goff are under much more pressure than us. they have won everything all year. if they were to lose this one, can you imagine the response. and the fear of a totally wasted year. on the other hand, daniels and the commodes are playing with house money. the pressure is not on them. we have had a winning year beyond anyone's expectations. if Detroit execute to their ability, they won't have much trouble.
chasy Posted January 17 Posted January 17 12 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: i honestly don't see us getting close but in saying that, we have only lost one game by more than one score all year and that was the first game to tampa in the opening round. so that is amazing. but i can't see it again. Detroit is far too strong in areas that will hurt us. but the pressure issue is something i would challenge. this kid has been under pressure so many times this year and it does not seem to bother him in the least. just does not worry him. i would suggest that Detroit and goff are under much more pressure than us. they have won everything all year. if they were to lose this one, can you imagine the response. and the fear of a totally wasted year. on the other hand, daniels and the commodes are playing with house money. the pressure is not on them. we have had a winning year beyond anyone's expectations. if Detroit execute to their ability, they won't have much trouble. I think you misunderstood - if Daniels pulls off a win, it will be a career defining moment for a potential all time great career. Goff is expected to perform. I don’t think any rookie can be expected to remain resilient in a second round playoff game, on the road, against a one seed. That said, all the pressure is on the Lions. I just think flop risk is higher with a rookie. If I’m wrong, and Daniels performs and gets a win, it will be all time heroics and a massive feather in his cap. I said Lions will hang 40 on the Commanders, but they are capable of putting up 40 themselves. Should be a great game and a lot to root for on either side - hard not to like both teams. 1
El Presidente Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 Daniels and Dan Quninn just need to keep Lions under pressure. Keep going for it on 4th down. Throw the effing dice. They won't win this one being conservative but I don't believe that is in their DNA right now. Commanders/Bucs was the game of last weekend. Young Tyro V Mayfield (washed up QB 18 months ago). Both produced big time albeit Mayfield will be blamed for two errors but a snapper can't count and a rookie WR misreads a play. He (Mayfield) will wear it. Go Commanchees this weekend 1
gormag38 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 21 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: i would suggest that Detroit and goff are under much more pressure than us. they have won everything all year. if they were to lose this one, can you imagine the response. and the fear of a totally wasted year. 18 hours ago, chasy said: That said, all the pressure is on the Lions. There is no doubt that all of the pressure is on the Lions. A target comes with being at the top. With a lifetime of losing in my past, there is no doubt that this one would sting the organization, city and fans the hardest. As I alluded to before, last years NFC title game loss hurt, but wasn't all the unexpected. From the very first snap this year it has been SB or bust.
foursite12 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 On 1/16/2025 at 8:24 AM, VeguerosMAN said: Goff, to me, was never an elite QB like Brady, Manning, Mahomes etc. I think he will crumble under pressure. On the other hand, JD has been the most clutch QB, and Washington never had a blowout loss this season. Washington does enough in defense to put JD in a position to win games. He doesn't need to be one of those guys with these players and that system. The Lions' offense is so multi-faceted; that plus a dominant OL and Johnson's play-calling are why they are so dangerous. This will be especially effective if Montgomery is able to contribute in a meaningful way. Commanders are 28th in the league in rushing defense. Wouldn't shock me to see the Lions put 40 on the board. Not a Lions fan but I have a hard time seeing this not going their way in a convincing win.
chasy Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Ignoring the data - there are certain teams where at the end of the season, you say "well done" and certain teams where you say "that was not good." For example, the Commanders are a "well done" performance, regardless of how the game with Lions go. I'd even say the Lions are weirdly in the "well done" category as well. They were so bad for so long and the team and coaches are great and seem to have broad support. Said differently, Lions fans haven't been spoiled enough to say SB or bust. On the other hand, Eagles, Chiefs, Niners, and others basically need to make the SB to be considered a job well done.
Ken Gargett Posted January 17 Posted January 17 21 hours ago, chasy said: I think you misunderstood - if Daniels pulls off a win, it will be a career defining moment for a potential all time great career. Goff is expected to perform. I don’t think any rookie can be expected to remain resilient in a second round playoff game, on the road, against a one seed. That said, all the pressure is on the Lions. I just think flop risk is higher with a rookie. If I’m wrong, and Daniels performs and gets a win, it will be all time heroics and a massive feather in his cap. I said Lions will hang 40 on the Commanders, but they are capable of putting up 40 themselves. Should be a great game and a lot to root for on either side - hard not to like both teams. if Washington does win this game then sure, it will add to the daniels early legend but i don't see it as career defining, especially if they lose. they are heavily expected to lose and that is very unlikely to be on him. he needs a lot more support. i can see him playing well - he has in every game - but we still get a thumping.
MrBirdman Posted January 18 Posted January 18 4 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: if Washington does win this game then sure, it will add to the daniels early legend but i don't see it as career defining, especially if they lose. they are heavily expected to lose and that is very unlikely to be on him. he needs a lot more support. i can see him playing well - he has in every game - but we still get a thumping. Completely agree. Even if he doesn’t play very well, and then never ends up living up to his promise, no one will seriously look back at losing to the No. 1 seed in the divisional round as a rookie and say “We should’ve known then.” Winning a road playoff game as a rookie is no mean feat. I will be pulling for them tomorrow. Hoping for an NFC East championship game.
VeguerosMAN Posted January 18 Posted January 18 If the game is close and Washington has the last position, JD will deliver. That's why my money is on Washington. The odds are very against them so the rewards are greater.
Namisgr11 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Go Eagles! It will very likely be snowing at Lincoln Financial Field with some on the ground for tomorrow's game.
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