Garand Posted December 9 Posted December 9 After hearing about Min Ron Nee's book I really wanna read it and get some info written in there. Obtaining a real copy is almost impossible, so here is my question: Is there a digital version of the book or if not, is there ever gonna be one? I think a lot of people would benefit from an online/digital version, so Cuban cigar enthusiasts all over the world could read it. Of course, I’d gladly pay for it 1
MrBirdman Posted December 9 Posted December 9 It would be nice if one of the members in touch with his family here could get an idea of their plans for the IP. If they aren’t going to publish a second edition in print they should at least digitize and self publish it. If we had sane copyright laws it would enter the public domain around 2050 - but we don’t, at least in the US. I never understood MRNs refusal to do a second run of books given how high the demand is. I heard rumors from some members here of a second edition a few years ago but the expected retail price was completely insane, even higher than copies of the first edition go for (which would seem to defeat the point of a second edition). Obviously that never came to pass, so it may have just been a rumor. I will just add that @ATGroom’s book has a ton of excellent info too and is far more up to date than MRN’s. 4
Garand Posted December 9 Author Posted December 9 Thank you very much for your reply. Let’s hope it will soon come to realization. BTW Does the @ATGroom book also contain information about aging and taste of cigars?
MrBirdman Posted December 9 Posted December 9 45 minutes ago, Garand said: Thank you very much for your reply. Let’s hope it will soon come to realization. BTW Does the @ATGroom book also contain information about aging and taste of cigars? It does have a section on storage. I do not recall anything on tasting per se, but if you have questions about tasting, the forum is a great resource (try using Google to see if questions have been asked before). 3
Garand Posted December 9 Author Posted December 9 I just looked. Cheapest I found was 200 bucks. Is that a fair price?
chris12381 Posted December 9 Posted December 9 There is a PDF copy of the Spanish edition online. I'm not comfortable sharing the link as I'm unsure of its copyright status in all countries but, it's out there. 1
Garand Posted December 9 Author Posted December 9 1 hour ago, Habanoschris said: 200 for the digital version? No for the physical one. 1 hour ago, chris12381 said: There is a PDF copy of the Spanish edition online. I'm not comfortable sharing the link as I'm unsure of its copyright status in all countries but, it's out there. That’s the problem, I would like to pay for it and not screw the author, even his children.
Chas.Alpha Posted December 9 Posted December 9 I’ve seen English versions of MRN’s book from time to time, going around $700-750 USD.
Habanoschris Posted December 9 Posted December 9 4 hours ago, Garand said: I just looked. Cheapest I found was 200 bucks. Is that a fair price? That would be a steal if true. 1
Lamboinee Posted December 9 Posted December 9 4 hours ago, Garand said: 200 bucks. Is that a fair price? Yes. 1
benfica_77 Posted December 10 Posted December 10 There were photos of the second edition of the book floating around, I believe even our very own Mr. Groom spoke about it I think in an interview if I remember correctly. @ATGroom
Havanaaddict Posted December 10 Posted December 10 $200 for a hardcopy would definitely be a steal. As said above, $700 to $750 is typical. I’ve seen it hit $1000. Amazon has one in their book sales for $3751 right now😳 1
Puros Y Vino Posted December 10 Posted December 10 6 hours ago, benfica_77 said: There were photos of the second edition of the book floating around, I believe even our very own Mr. Groom spoke about it I think in an interview if I remember correctly. @ATGroom There was a 20 page PDF sampler. Was impressive.
Popular Post ATGroom Posted December 10 Popular Post Posted December 10 14 hours ago, Garand said: Thank you very much for your reply. Let’s hope it will soon come to realization. BTW Does the @ATGroom book also contain information about aging and taste of cigars? There are very few references in my book to the idea that cigars can be smoked. It's a guide for collectors, not smokers.😜 A lot of people have asked me to include this information. I left it out because it's all totally subjective and I don't have enough faith in my palate to think that my ideas are particularly valuable. Perhaps in some future book. 11 hours ago, chris12381 said: There is a PDF copy of the Spanish edition online. I'm not comfortable sharing the link as I'm unsure of its copyright status in all countries but, it's out there. 10 hours ago, Garand said: No for the physical one. That’s the problem, I would like to pay for it and not screw the author, even his children. There have been PDF copies of English and Spanish circulating for years. They are not authorised by the author in any way, and of course his estate gets nothing from them. 6 hours ago, benfica_77 said: There were photos of the second edition of the book floating around, I believe even our very own Mr. Groom spoke about it I think in an interview if I remember correctly. @ATGroom 5 hours ago, Puros Y Vino said: There was a 20 page PDF sampler. Was impressive. When he was talking about releasing it circa 2014, the second edition was to be a 6 volume 3,000 page large format set of books that came in a furniture grade cabinet. Price was $10,000 USD. 2000 copies. A few prototypes were produced, but only the 20 or so pages in it were printed. The rest are blank. A PDF was circulated for the print test pages. 1 6
Fuzz Posted December 10 Posted December 10 6 hours ago, ATGroom said: There are very few references in my book to the idea that cigars can be smoked. It's a guide for collectors, not smokers.😜 A lot of people have asked me to include this information. I left it out because it's all totally subjective and I don't have enough faith in my palate to think that my ideas are particularly valuable. Perhaps in some future book. There have been PDF copies of English and Spanish circulating for years. They are not authorised by the author in any way, and of course his estate gets nothing from them. When he was talking about releasing it circa 2014, the second edition was to be a 6 volume 3,000 page large format set of books that came in a furniture grade cabinet. Price was $10,000 USD. 2000 copies. A few prototypes were produced, but only the 20 or so pages in it were printed. The rest are blank. A PDF was circulated for the print test pages. I've seen the 2nd edition books and wooden stand in the flesh, so to speak. Not sure if the books were blanks, it would have been impolite to ask as the owner of it was not around when I saw it.
Blazer Posted December 10 Posted December 10 12 hours ago, ATGroom said: When he was talking about releasing it circa 2014, the second edition was to be a 6 volume 3,000 page large format set of books that came in a furniture grade cabinet. Price was $10,000 USD. 2000 copies. A few prototypes were produced, but only the 20 or so pages in it were printed. The rest are blank. A PDF was circulated for the print test pages. Whatever happened to that? I remember seeing a video about MRN collating pages for those large format coffee table reference books with cabinet and then nuthin?
Lamboinee Posted December 10 Posted December 10 9 hours ago, ATGroom said: Perhaps in some future book. I'd read it.
MrBirdman Posted December 10 Posted December 10 10 hours ago, ATGroom said: There are very few references in my book to the idea that cigars can be smoked. It's a guide for collectors, not smokers.😜 A lot of people have asked me to include this information. I left it out because it's all totally subjective and I don't have enough faith in my palate to think that my ideas are particularly valuable. Perhaps in some future book. There have been PDF copies of English and Spanish circulating for years. They are not authorised by the author in any way, and of course his estate gets nothing from them. When he was talking about releasing it circa 2014, the second edition was to be a 6 volume 3,000 page large format set of books that came in a furniture grade cabinet. Price was $10,000 USD. 2000 copies. A few prototypes were produced, but only the 20 or so pages in it were printed. The rest are blank. A PDF was circulated for the print test pages. Was there ever a discussion about releasing a second edition that didn't cost $10,000 (essentially a reprint of the first)? I know it's unlikely to be a big earner, but it seems a wasted opportunity to not at least make a ebook available for purchase. Maybe you could write the forward!
Popular Post ATGroom Posted December 10 Popular Post Posted December 10 14 hours ago, Fuzz said: I've seen the 2nd edition books and wooden stand in the flesh, so to speak. Not sure if the books were blanks, it would have been impolite to ask as the owner of it was not around when I saw it. All the prototypes had blank pages. 12 hours ago, Blazer said: Whatever happened to that? I remember seeing a video about MRN collating pages for those large format coffee table reference books with cabinet and then nuthin? It's not my place to speculate on the reasons why, but suffice to say the project was indefinitely postponed and sadly remained incomplete at the time of his death. 9 hours ago, MrBirdman said: Was there ever a discussion about releasing a second edition that didn't cost $10,000 (essentially a reprint of the first)? I know it's unlikely to be a big earner, but it seems a wasted opportunity to not at least make a ebook available for purchase. Maybe you could write the forward! In life, MRN was very against the idea. He was proud of the secondary market prices for the first edition. I doubt his departure will have changed anything in that regard. In response to complaints about the $10,000 price tag of the 2nd edition he said something along the lines of, "if you can afford to collect vintage Cuban cigars, you can afford the book." If you want a free electronic version of the same info it's cubancigarwebsite.com. 5 3
Coloniales Posted December 12 Posted December 12 Myself and others put money down on the second edition, but when it didn't happen, MRN returned my money, with interest! Which was nice.
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