VeguerosMAN Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 7 hours ago, jazzboypro said: Is there suppose to be a name change? Is it required? Influencers...do we need them? Well it seems El Presidente doesn't mind calling NCs as FWC. It's not required but it's fun to entertain the idea of a name change. We don't need influencers, and yet it doesn't hurt to have them around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzboypro Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 7 hours ago, VeguerosMAN said: Well it seems El Presidente doesn't mind calling NCs as FWC. It's not required but it's fun to entertain the idea of a name change. We don't need influencers, and yet it doesn't hurt to have them around. I don't mind how each one wants to call them, I just don't see the point. I don't mind about influencers (well maybe a bit lol) but I personally don't see a necessity for them. I have to admit that "influencers" is a broad term and it may mean different things to different people so YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford2112 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 32 minutes ago, VeguerosMAN said: Well it seems El presidente doesn't mind calling NCs as FWC. It's not required but it's fun to entertain the idea of a name chage. We don't need influencers, and yet it doesn't hurt to have them around. I mean you changed your name from Kirby... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeguerosMAN Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 6 hours ago, Ford2112 said: I mean you changed your name from Kirby... Kirby is white, I am Korean hahaha! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habanoschris Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 4/4/2024 at 4:48 AM, Chibearsv said: I've never understood why non-Cubans are called "new world". Wasn't Cuba and DR discovered at basically the same moment? And Nicaragua and Honduras very shortly thereafter? My understanding was that it's more of a historical/chronological reference, As you know, Tobacco and its usage had previously existed in Cuba by the time old world explorers arrived and discovered the New World. Some years after the New World was discovered, as you know countries such as USA, Honduras, Nicaragua, DR, Ecuador etc. began growing/producing & curing tobacco. So it's kind of a before and after reference. 🤷🏻♂️ 😚💨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li Bai Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I always thought New World referred to the target of non Cuban producers (the USA to be clear) since in Europe cigar smokers smoked almost only Cubans and some local production such as Dutch cigars ( those Freud smoked on a daily basis) but the latter aren't really worth mentioning. Those are just words we all agree upon to understand each other so it's no big deal. To me there is Cuban cigars and there is the rest so CC and NC fit perfectly. My two cents... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habanoschris Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Li Bai said: I always thought New World referred to the target of non Cuban producers (the USA to be clear) since in Europe cigar smokers smoked almost only Cubans and some local production such as Dutch cigars ( those Freud smoked on a daily basis) but the latter aren't really worth mentioning. Those are just words we all agree upon to understand each other so it's no big deal. To me there is Cuban cigars and there is the rest so CC and NC fit perfectly. My two cents... Ahh like the end user...hmm, 🤔 perhaps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li Bai Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 13 hours ago, Habanoschris said: Ahh like the end user...hmm, 🤔 perhaps. That's what I assumed, never really thought about that honestly... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 4/4/2024 at 6:48 PM, Shawn4212 said: You would be hard pressed to find a DR Puro in their line up I'm sure not now, but they were making cigars in the DR in 1912. I had assumed they were not using Cuban tobacco but I suppose it's possible although it's very unlikely they were using DR wrappers ever, so I'll give you that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habanoschris Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Ha! watch former Beverly Hills Davidoff GM & Cigar Aficionado Aaron Sigmond weigh in on the term "New World" Cigars as an "imperialistic marketing term" invented by the UK Cigar sellers... Interview actually has some other very fascinating bits. 😗💨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroDiario Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (Country) puro (brand) cigars All else gets too muddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 When speaking to countrymen regarding Cuban cigars vs. others I refer to the others as domestic cigars, meaning what is available domestically. I am getting less and less concerned over who get offended. One cannot even keep one’s opinion to one’s self without offending someone. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habanoschris Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Agreed...you can only do your part to be decent. Sadly, some people are lining up, waiting, hoping to be offended. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puros Y Vino Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 4/4/2024 at 1:48 AM, Mr. Japan said: When you smoke you smoke one cigar so : Cuban Cigars Honduras Cigar Nicaragua Cigars Brazil Cigar Italian Cigar Dominican Cigar etc So many NC's are blends from different countries. You'd have to add "puros" at the end if single origin. FWC doesn't sound great to me. Falls into jingoistic language. Is Cuba less free than China? New world has more appeal and may be more accurate. And since so much language in the cigar world borrows from the wine world, it makes sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habanoschris Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Had to put this here. In his update on Cuban inventory, Eddie is hesitant to use NWC for political implications lol. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li Bai Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 hours ago, Habanoschris said: Had to put this here. In his update on Cuban inventory, Eddie is hesitant to use NWC for political implications lol. They're bracing themselves for what's coming...I wish them good luck, their shop is amazing 😍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford2112 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 One of my life goals is to meet the Sahakians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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