Tesla/EV: Chilly reality?

[El Presidente]

 

I am sure they will sort it out shortly 

 

 

 

[Chibearsv]

Gas powered SUV doing just fine for me. I never understood why someone would choose a battery powered vehicle in our ridiculous climate. Typical seasonal temperature ranges between -29°C and 38°C (that's for you @ha_banos 😁)  I've got employees that are calling in to work from home because their e-car isn't charging properly.

[SCgarman]

No thanks, I'll stick to what works. Gasoline power. Governments who tell citizens what to drive should eff off, period.

[Chas.Alpha]

While cold batteries produce less cranking amps, I think the bigger (unthought of) problem is that lubricants can also freeze, or at least thicken to the point that whatever amperage you send to the starter will not overcome the mechanical resistance.

@madandana and @Chibearsv can certainly chime in, as they see fit. 🥶

[Nevrknow]

Reminds me of the city " up north" that decided led stoplights would save them $. Installed them and everyone was green happy  But

Y'all know me, there's always a but,🤣, winter hit, lights don't work, had to install heaters on the lights.

Savings went ( where's the right out the window emoji?).🤣🤣

[jazzboypro]

It's my third winter with my EV, never had a charging problem so far.

[Chibearsv]

26 minutes ago, Chas.Alpha said:

While cold batteries produce less cranking amps, I think the bigger (unthought of) problem is that lubricants can also freeze, or at least thicken to the point that whatever amperage you send to the starter will not overcome the mechanical resistance.

@madandana and @Chibearsv can certainly chime in, as they see fit. 🥶

Oh I know that sound very well. Hoping the engine will kick over when it seems like the starter is barely turning it over. 

[kyee]

I don't have that problem...

[Duxnutz]

2 hours ago, kyee said:

I don't have that problem...

Aloha from across the way.

[Fuzz]

1 hour ago, Chibearsv said:

Gas powered SUV doing just fine for me. I never understood why someone would choose a battery powered vehicle in our ridiculous climate. Typical seasonal temperature ranges between -29°C and 38°C (that's for you @ha_banos 😁)  I've got employees that are calling in to work from home because their e-car isn't charging properly.

-29°C is not too far away from the point where unleaded starts to crystalize, but I'd be more concerned about your motor oil coagulating. The wax in diesel will start to crystalize at -9°C and clog up your filter and injectors.

Best to just move to a climate where it never gets below 0°C.

[MrBirdman]

I wouldn’t own an EV I couldn’t charge at home given the current state of the charging network. 

2 hours ago, SCgarman said:

No thanks, I'll stick to what works. Gasoline power. Governments who tell citizens what to drive should eff off, period.

I’d say the same about governments doing nothing about climate change. 

[targa88]

I had to chuckle the other day. There was a power grid alert last week - associated with the extreme cold locally.

Specific instructions were not to charge EVs...

This compounded by insurance policies that now have provisions that EVs should not be charged in garages (given potential of fire hazard).

Won't even talk about diminished range in cold/extreme weather...

Still a ways off without a solution.

[Namisgr11]

It's not an EV issue, it's a Tesla issue. Their chargers are inferior.

[JohnnyO]

14 hours ago, Fuzz said:

-29°C is not too far away from the point where unleaded starts to crystalize, but I'd be more concerned about your motor oil coagulating. The wax in diesel will start to crystalize at -9°C and clog up your filter and injectors.

Best to just move to a climate where it never gets below 0°C.

In northern states like Minnesota many have plug-in heaters that warm up the oil in the car. A $2 bottle of Heet will keep ice out of your fuel tank. John

[Fuzz]

1 hour ago, JohnnyO said:

In northern states like Minnesota many have plug in heaters that warm up the oil in the car. A bottle of Heet will keep ice out of your fuel tank. John

Better to just move closer to the equator.

[PigFish]

Bring back the diesel VW Jetta! 700 miles on 14 gallons of diesel!

(The earth was not harmed in making the aforementioned comments)

[Magnum Dongle]

Elon about to sell the Tesla Winter Version©️ for a low low subscription cost of either your first born, left testicle, or the last four of your social. 

[BrightonCorgi]

14 hours ago, Chibearsv said:

Gas powered SUV doing just fine for me. I never understood why someone would choose a battery powered vehicle in our ridiculous climate.

Vanity and virtue signaling.

[joeypots]

EV tech is in its infancy and will steadily improve as time passes. That said, I'll let the other guy pay for there research that'll make better. The Tesla I drove was a blast to drive. Too bad it wasn't a manual 6.

[ha_banos]

It's almost like my phone knows what I'm reading...

https://thehill.com/changing-america/sustainability/energy/4411984-ev-drivers-struggle-to-keep-batteries-charged-amid-winter-freeze/

[PartagasIV]

Zero problems with home charger/Supercharger network going on 2+ years. 1000HP and snow tires for a fraction of Bugatti money, and still have a gas powered manual to enjoy.

Diminished winter range is real, but nothing that can't be planned for. Plaids are half price these days.

[kyee]

17 hours ago, Duxnutz said:

Aloha from across the way.

🤙🏼

[PigFish]

Winter Tesla Model Y2K

Can pull summer Teslas out of the mud, or out of town. Act as short-term lodging after forgotten anniversary. Used to warm summer Tesla drivers in winter. Has a preheat feature (need your own extension cord). Battery replacement can be performed at any local auto-parts store, or at home (about $200 every 5 years). Can be run it 2 foot of water without a massive battery fire! Can be hit broadside and still driven home! Intimidates Prius drivers (and many others) on the freeway. Eco-friendly, no lithium or rare-earth materials out of pollution pits in China. Has no smog equipment (means make no smog...) and uses renewable energy sources. Needs no backup camera, because people get out of its way.

The list goes on!

 

[dominattorney]

1 hour ago, PartagasIV said:

Zero problems with home charger/Supercharger network going on 2+ years. 1000HP and snow tires for a fraction of Bugatti money, and still have a gas powered manual to enjoy.

Diminished winter range is real, but nothing that can't be planned for. Plaids are half price these days.

Serious question, does it depend where you live? While I've been kicking the tires on an ultrafast EV, I'm nervous that my driving use will get in the way of fully enjoying it. I frequently travel to rural areas with low infrastructure and enjoy unplanned spirited road trips through and along the rockies. Winters also create potential problems for me. 

[SCgarman]

3 minutes ago, dominattorney said:

Serious question, does it depend where you live? While I've been kicking the tires on an ultrafast EV, I'm nervous that my driving use will get in the way of fully enjoying it. I frequently travel to rural areas with low infrastructure and enjoy unplanned spirited road trips through and along the rockies. Winters also create potential problems for me. 

The "unplanned spirited" part will likely not work with an EV. Lack of a charging station infrastructure throughout the US means you either plan an itinerary and stick to it like glue, or you'll likely be on a flatbed truck paying the driver your disposable $$$ 😁.

We are in warm Myrtle Beach, SC. Still no EV's in my stable. I refuse to buy into the "sham".