Input Required: The back end of 2424 Nudies/Desnudo/MOFOH selections.

[El Presidente]

So good folk, I need your input. 

We are advanced in our planning but planning will be finalised end of Jan/Mid Feb for 2024. 

 

We have now successfully released the following: 

Lancero

Carlota

Petit Corona

Canonazo 

Spada Gorda

Ninfas

Queen Corona 

Churchill

Robusto Trinity. 

 

In Late January/Feburary   (under Nudies/MOFOH) we will release the:

Fat Fundy (Fundadores at 44 gauge). 

Piramides. 

In May/June we will release under Bond Roberts the:

109

Petit 109

By June 2024 under Nudies/MOFOH we will release:

Lonsdale/Dalia

 

Can I ask you (and use the poll + provide any comments on this thread, what further would you love to see in the Nudies/MOFOH lineup come end 2024? 

Gracias 

 

 

 

 

[Dave O)))]

Voted for short panatela, but looking forward to the Dalia (you read my mind) but so far the sizes released have been on point 👍🏻

[El Presidente]

4 minutes ago, Dave O))) said:

Voted for short panatela, but looking forward to the Dalia (you read my mind) but so far the sizes released have been on point 👍🏻

Question for the Ninfas lovers

Should we do a Short Panetela, would you like it the same body as the Ninfas...... or fuller/less?

[Dave O)))]

2 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

Question for the Ninfas lovers

Should we do a Short Panetela, would you like it the same body as the Ninfas...... or fuller/less?

I'll let you know when customs have released my wheel of ninfas!! 🤪

[loose_axle]

For me double corona and a belicoso size. Love double coronas, love bolivar bbfs. Those two = perfection. I know you've got piramides but there's something about that 5.5 inch torpedo shape no matter the line... especially as NC the AF Don Carlos belicoso and + AF & JC shark are itch scratchers. Actually would you do a shark? As in semi box pressed and round shaped?  

However the news of 109s with bands has got me pretty satisfied. That will plug a need. 

[MagicalBikeRide]

I’d be excited about something smaller / quicker than the PC.

I struggle to enjoy anything bigger than a robusto during the winter months here (combo of cold, wind, likely rain and no indoor smoking). Short sizes are great for a coffee, a heated beer garden or a dog walk. Also pretty sure the dog is sick of me taking lanceros when it’s 0° C outside…

[BenW]

A small panetela size with a similar flavour profile to a Hoyo Du Depute would definitely float my boat.

Something medium/rich in flavour that never pushes past medium in body. A great breakfast/coffee companion.

[JohnS]

Short Panetela. Blend it as close as possible to a Por Larranaga Montecarlos and you are on your way to selling ice to eskimos. Your biggest issue will be keeping up with demand!

[ha_banos]

Butifarra / AF Short Story / Flying Piggy !

 

 

[El Presidente]

8 hours ago, ha_banos said:

Butifarra / AF Short Story !

We will keep that one for BR. Specialist team required. We are working on it 

[ha_banos]

Just now, El Presidente said:

We will keep that one for BR. Specialist team required. We are working on it 

Make sure you bring me some over for the launch party!!  

[99call]

Looking at the cigars in the current line up, the missing vitola seems to be the quick "coffee cigar". 

Would be interesting if they could be little free hand roles, cut down on production costs/time, and end price etc.   Whether that is too risky, with draw and quality control, and the market good name you've already achieved, I don't know.

Whenever questions like this pop up on the forum, I always say "Fancy Tales of Smoke",  but maybe you could do small freehand ones?.   Small foil bundles of 25 

[El Presidente]

1 minute ago, 99call said:

Looking at the cigars in the current line up, the missing vitola seems to be the quick "coffee cigar". 

Would be interesting if they could be little free hand roles, cut down on production costs/time, and end price etc.   Whether that is too risky, with draw and quality control, and the market good name you've already achieved, I don't know.

Whenever questions like this pop up on the forum, I always say "Fancy Tales of Smoke",  but maybe you could do small freehand ones?.   Small foil bundles of 25 

Hand rolled say, 28 gauge x 4.5-5 inches? Paint a picture for me 

[99call]

2 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

Hand rolled say, 28 gauge x 4.5-5 inches? Paint a picture for me 

Hmm wasn't thinking that skinny,  maybe 40 gauge x 4-4.5

[KCCubano]

I went short panatela. Same size as JLP Petit Cetro-40×5

[El Presidente]

8 hours ago, 99call said:

Hmm wasn't thinking that skinny,  maybe 40 gauge x 4-4.5

I like that, but it will require a mold. Freestyle wouldn't work. Achieving a better than reasonable pricepoint wouldn't be easy. 

How about a freestyle/ rough"ish" 40 x 4.5 in a parejo. Some may be 38/some 41/42. Artisan freestyle roll. Quality leaf  

[El Presidente]

7 minutes ago, KCCubano said:

I went short panatela. Same size as JLP Petit Cetro-40×5

If you could live with a 38 gauge, easy peasy. We would adjust the blend of the current Ninfas....maybe a touch bolder.

[dominattorney]

I think half corona or a minuto would be a great idea. Minuto is a great size and the cuban minutos are starting to be priced too high. 

If you could get a ringer for the bolivar corona junior at the price they were selling for in 2018 you'd have a winner. 

[El Presidente]

5 minutes ago, dominattorney said:

I think half corona or a minuto would be a great idea. Minuto is a great size and the cuban minutos are starting to be priced too high. 

If you could get a ringer for the bolivar corona junior at the price they were selling for in 2018 you'd have a winner. 

We can certainly do a 42 or 44 spectacular Half Corona. I know because we have already played around with them. Have also played around with a 38x 4.5. 

Keep in mind raw NC tobacco prices have shot up 30% in the past two years (quality leaf).Getting the price point for 25 at around the $150 mark will prove a challenge.  It is the reason so few manufacturers do it. 

[99call]

1 minute ago, El Presidente said:

How about a freestyle/ rough"ish" 40 x 4.5 in a parejo. Some may be 38/some 41/42. Artisan freestyle roll. Quality leaf  

Yep, ultimately if providing a utilitarian product, one that that cuts out the moulding process,  if it provides the craftsman and the customer a win, then I guess it has potential. 

The real winner would be,....but again i'm sure not logistically phesible,   If the little foil bundle of 25 was a lucky dip variety of the nudie blends, or at least wrapper varieties.     Again, I'm sure hugely impractical. 

These could be like the little feeder drug, the mix bag, that moves people on 'the harder stuff'

[westg]

Figurado 47 × 158...

With a band . And a box . Make it an EL....or something similar...down the track 

[El Presidente]

1 minute ago, 99call said:

Yep, ultimately if providing a utilitarian product, one that that cuts out the moulding process,  if it provides the craftsman and the customer a win, then I guess it has potential. 

The real winner would be,....but again i'm sure not logistically phesible,   If the little foil bundle of 25 was a lucky dip variety of the nudie blends, or at least wrapper varieties.     Again, I'm sure hugely impractical. 

These could be like the little feeder drug, the mix bag, that moves people on 'the harder stuff'

I see where you are coming from and it is something Hamlet has floated 

On  the backburner but we are discussing it. 

[El Presidente]

Just now, westg said:

Figurado 47 × 158...

With a band . And a box . Make it an EL....or something similar...down the track 

You will love the BR line West. Right up your alley. 

[SCgarman]

30 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

Hand rolled say, 28 gauge x 4.5-5 inches? Paint a picture for me 

My suggestion, Minutos. Your version of a Party Short. Perfect cup of coffee stick.

[dominattorney]

17 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

We can certainly do a 42 or 44 spectacular Half Corona. I know because we have already played around with them. Have also played around with a 38x 4.5. 

Keep in mind raw NC tobacco prices have shot up 30% in the past two years (quality leaf).Getting the price point for 25 at around the $150 mark will prove a challenge.  It is the reason so few manufacturers do it. 

What about a double capped cigar meant to be cut in half as a novelty giving two minuto sized sticks? I'm mostly joking, but curious.