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My brother and I watched those films countless times when we were kids. And we still watch them now whenever they come up on TV.

I have yet to see History of the World Part 2. It's a sketch comedy show, with Brooks taking on the role of Narrator.

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I think Young Frankenstein is the funniest movie ever made.

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His movies are great, but not appropriate for today's audience unfortunately. 

Blazing Saddles is consider racist in our country by a lot of people. That style of humor is not condoned now.

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5 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

His movies are great, but not appropriate for today's audience unfortunately. 

Blazing Saddles is consider racist in our country by a lot of people.  That style of humor is not condoned now.

I would challenge that, I think the great thing about Brooks' humour is that he might put racism, or sexism, or ridicule of religion on the screen, but the butt of the joke would always be on the instigator. I think that's why he was and is great. It's not hateful, or punching down. "Springtime for Hilter" is a great example of this. It got loads of criticism, but he was humiliating Hitler (and the Nazi party) and making them figures of utter pathetic ridicule. This is exactly why such subject matters should be in the hands of incredible, intelligent talents like him. The problem these days is not that these things cant be said, but rather the talent to do it properly is increasingly rare. 

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4 hours ago, 99call said:

I would challenge that, I think the great thing about Brooks' humour is that he might put racism, or sexism, or ridicule of religion on the screen, but the butt of the joke would always be on the instigator. I think that's why he was and is great. It's not hateful, or punching down. "Springtime for Hilter" is a great example of this. It got loads of criticism, but he was humiliating Hitler (and the Nazi party) and making them figures of utter pathetic ridicule. This is exactly why such subject matters should be in the hands of incredible, intelligent talents like him. The problem these days is not that these things cant be said, but rather the talent to do it properly is increasingly rare.

It doesn't matter who is the butt of a joke, any hint of racism or disparity to a group of concern is not appropriate today (I could care less, but I have no say in it)

Challenge HBO - https://www.thewrap.com/blazing-saddles-gets-intro-disclaimer-for-racist-context-on-hbo-max/

Tell that to Univ. Wisconsin - https://www.thefire.org/news/don-downs-blazing-saddles-controversy-uw-madison

Netflix won't carry it - https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/02/07/272452677/blazing-saddles-the-best-interracial-buddy-comedy-turns-40

 

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2 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

It doesn't matter who is the butt of a joke, any hint of racism or disparity to a group of concern is not appropriate today (I could care less, but I have no say in it)

I don't doubt there are many stupid people that seek blanket bans of stuff.     My point was more that there needs to be a balance between two sets of group:

- Those who obsess that everything is too difficult/hurtful to talk about or have explored in arts/entertainment. 

- Those who obsess that 'they can't say anything anymore', even when that's not the reality.

I remember I used to work with a guy, that every year when St Georges Day rolled around (Englands St Patricks day), he would lament about "all the people" stopping him from being allowed to have St George flags on his car. We would ask him "so who are these people that are stopping you?" It quickly unravelled that nobody was stopping him, indeed in the area where we worked and he lived,  there were St George flags everywhere,  and there was absolutely zero problem in him wanting to celebrate. Also as a side note, I found out years later, that the idiot used to vote for the BNP,  so all of his protestations, that often began with "I'm not a racist........but!"  we're all bollocks. 

Anyway to come back on point, I think there is a balance to be reached, (which in my opinion) is that there shouldn't be pointless racism, sexism within entertainment that serves no other purpose other than for racists and sexists to enjoy, and for those opinions to spread amongst society. The subjects should definitely not be off bounds however. If there is a purpose to there inclusion, and they are pivotal to the story/character, then the onus should be on the audience to simply not to buy a ticket, if they feel they are too delicate for the subject matter. 

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My friend's dad use to raise financing for Hollywood films. It was like a formula of director, actors, producer, etc... would guarantee a certain level of financing if everything was in place. I doubt today a Blazing Saddles style movie would ever get the green light in Hollywood.

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1 hour ago, BrightonCorgi said:

My friend's dad use to raise financing for Hollywood films. It was like a formula of director, actors, producer, etc... would guarantee a certain level of financing if everything was in place. I doubt today a Blazing Saddles style movie would ever get the green light in Hollywood.

If those decisions are being made as to what will sell, then people who don't like it will just have to suck it up. If Barbie makes 1.44 billion, I think we would struggle to make the argument that it wasn't what the market wanted. 

I would like to think like a film like 'American History X' would still be made today, full or racism, and misogyny. It was a brilliant, powerful, disturbing film, expertly directed, acted, made, advertised etc etc. Anyone that would argue for that film not to be made today, would be an absolute idiot. It's also worth mentioning that the people that would suffer most from that film being made, would be racists themselves, as it so brilliantly exposed how these people groom and recruit, damaged people.  

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A lot of those movies wouldn’t get by the PC police today but that has no bearing on the quality of the movies and how !@#$%^& funny they are. Most of Mel Brooks’ work holds up, imo. It amazes me that friends who I think would be horrified by The Producers think it’s a masterpiece and friends who have no skin in the game think it’s atrocious. Same with Blazing Saddles. Got to be a very great writer/filmmaker to get away with that kind of stuff. 

 Pizza The Hut, how great is that?

 

 

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6 hours ago, Ford2112 said:

I think Young Frankenstein is the funniest movie ever made.

This movie has had me cracking up too. A classic 😂

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11 hours ago, cigaraholic said:

Thank god somebody finally showed what happens when cowboys sit around a campfire and eat beans💨

Here's a short clip from Dead Man. Billy Bob Thornton, Iggy Pop, and Jared Harris. Dead pan cowboy campfire humor. 

 

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On 11/27/2023 at 8:40 AM, El Presidente said:

I don't know how I got there, but late Saturday night I started watching Blazzing Saddles for the first time in decades. I couldn't stop laughing :D

Mel Brooks is/was a comedic genius. 

What a catalogue of work :clap:

Your Majesty, You look like the piss boy!!!

 

 

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3 hours ago, SigmundChurchill said:

Your Majesty, You look like the piss boy!!!

And you look like a bucket of shit!

🤣

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