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This to me is the biggest loss - as someone raised to be financially restrained, if not frugal, on personal indulgences, I can’t derive as much enjoyment from something I know is a poor value. I’m sur

Two Trinis for me.  I won't pay the price for Coloniales.      I can't find  

Reyes. Was a staple of my small cigar rotation. Huge loss.  LGC MdO4. Where they heck are they?

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1 hour ago, MrBirdman said:

This to me is the biggest loss - as someone raised to be financially restrained, if not frugal, on personal indulgences, I can’t derive as much enjoyment from something I know is a poor value. I’m surprised how much it is already detracting from my enjoyment, even though I purchased 99% of my cigars “BC.”

Habanos, particularly with Cohiba and Trini, has reorientated their marketing towards a client who gets at least as much pleasure from the “exclusivity” of a cigar as they do from actually smoking it. Naturally that doesn’t cover everyone still buying Cohiba - it just means that’s the new Habanos target audience. It’s an attitude entirely incongruent with my nature.

But them’s the breaks. Gotta just move on. 

Oh and I forgot to add Monte Especials to my list. 

That is a sadness for me as well.  The current focus on market value can obliviate the sheer love of a wonderful Habano.  ...And it can complicate the simple sharing of flavors.  

To El Presidente's OP question, and echoing others, I do miss seeing more of the wonderful Partagás 8-9-8 (love a Dalias), and would also welcome a Britanicas Extra (and can't wait for the 109) -- that is, if you're looking for more Desnudos vitolas! 

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Party 898V (out of stock in humidor)

Siglo III (low and won’t touch them)

Ask me this in 7 years and I’ll say all of them. I haven’t bought replacements in 2 plus years due to the cost.

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On 7/25/2023 at 10:37 PM, Glass Half Full said:

That is a sadness for me as well.  The current focus on market value can obliviate the sheer love of a wonderful Habano...And it can complicate the simple sharing of flavors.  

Expanding up on a sentiment shared in a few posts - these negative emotions presently related to something we all enjoy, what hurts the absolute most, none of it had to be this way. 

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Serie du Connaisseur - the no.1s were perhaps my favourite smoke ever 

Boli Corona Gigantes

Orherwise Cubans across the board. Luxury goods now in so many instances.

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For me...

--RA 898;

--SLR Serie A;

--Trinidad Fundadores;

I'm with others here regarding the hard wired value proposition in my mind. Digging into my 'dor has me questioning "...do I REALLY want a Cuban since I'm unwilling to spend the $$ for a future box investment" or will a Nudie, Illusione, or other NW scratch this itch. Just smoked a tremendous Epi 1 from an '18 box that has been sick literally until today, but now I'm going to be in horde mode for the remaining 18 cigars left in that box...

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On 7/24/2023 at 4:44 PM, Ford2112 said:

Does Cuba even roll MdOr anymore? They are making a robusto La Gloria instead. Unreal.

I've seen 22 boxes of MdO4 so yes, they are still in production. Haven't seen them for sale since 2020 and they haven't been readily available since 2018. I vividly recall in Nov 17 they were stacked floor to ceiling in every LCDH in Cuba. 

It is a little perplexing why they're so scarce. Are there really that many of these going to China and the middle east? It's always been kind of an insider's cigar. 

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I haven’t been in the hobby long enough to have 2 cigars I miss smoking the most due to prices/supply issues. But I do have a couple I’ve never tried/been able to procure that I don’t think I’ll be able to get my hands on.

Partagas Lusitania

Hoyo DC

Everything I hear about Cuban DC’s makes me wish I would’ve gotten into CC’s much sooner!

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8 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said:

I've seen 22 boxes of MdO4 so yes, they are still in production. Haven't seen them for sale since 2020 and they haven't been readily available since 2018. I vividly recall in Nov 17 they were stacked floor to ceiling in every LCDH in Cuba. 

It is a little perplexing why they're so scarce. Are there really that many of these going to China and the middle east? It's always been kind of an insider's cigar. 

Would you choose MdO4 over Montecristo Especial No.1 when it comes to thin cigars?, There are two boxes left of those Espe in the LaCasa nearby but I don't want to rush, They will be getting a new shipment soon and the list mentions La Gloria Cubana La Gloria, Cohiba Siglo VI  (they already have Esplendidos at $200/ stick). 

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6 hours ago, Arabian said:

Would you choose MdO4 over Montecristo Especial No.1 when it comes to thin cigars?, There are two boxes left of those Espe in the LaCasa nearby but I don't want to rush, They will be getting a new shipment soon and the list mentions La Gloria Cubana La Gloria

Not sure I understand you correctly, but the MdO4 is not a LGC La Gloria. Or ist that a purely hypothetical question? Apart from that...
 

6 hours ago, Arabian said:

There are two boxes left of those Espe in the LaCasa nearby

Grab them! Both!

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9 hours ago, Arabian said:

They will be getting a new shipment soon and the list mentions La Gloria Cubana La Gloria

These would be the Glorias LCDH 20s in luxury box, not the MdO4. I've had several Glorias and I find them absolutely fantastic. The Turquinos are also good but the Glorias are a cut above, and at 3 times the price should be. 

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Would you choose MdO4 over Montecristo Especial No.1 when it comes to thin cigars?

Both very different and I would say impossible to directly compare. The MdO4 is also both substantially cheaper and smaller than the ME. I think a better comparison is the PLMC vs the MdO4 and between those I would pick the PL under 3 years and the MdO4 over 3 years. 

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Dip #4 and Trinny Fundies 

Didn’t know what we had until they are no longer accessible. 😔

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On 7/22/2023 at 8:41 AM, El Presidente said:

The two cigars you most miss? ...simply because you can't find them or you will no longer pay the price:thinking:

Cuban cigars in general. 

Whilst many will unwillingly accept (tolerate), for me, the latest prices of Cuban cigars is no longer justifiable to enjoy a bundle of decomposing tobacco leaves.   

Cuban leaf still seems far superior to NC leaf, but fortunately there are plenty of NC's for my taste buds to explore.

Rob, if it weren't for this site, I would have given up on Cubans many years back.

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9 hours ago, Andy04 said:

Cuban cigars in general. 

Whilst many will unwillingly accept (tolerate), for me, the latest prices of Cuban cigars is no longer justifiable to enjoy a bundle of decomposing tobacco leaves.   

Cuban leaf still seems far superior to NC leaf, but fortunately there are plenty of NC's for my taste buds to explore.

Rob, if it weren't for this site, I would have given up on Cubans many years back.

That's the thing right there. When you stop to think about paying hard earned money on overpriced "decomposing tobacco leaves" you begin to feel bad about the hobby and it's not supposed to feel like that - just don't make any sense. We all agree that cuban cigars are more tasty compared to NC's, but when it comes to the pricetag, you do not feel robbed when buying NCs. Thank God we have Nudies, otherwise, I would probably just drop smoking cigars.

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Parti 898 and Trinidad Coloniales.

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