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Incredible development. Speechless. I’ll discuss it on next zoom session. Question is if the effort of criminal charges worth it or not. Guy got scared after police got involved. Took them less than a

I guess good bye to Cuban Cigars….my storage unit was broken into and with it my 3 coolers went away. Can’t describe how I feel to be honest, I had a lot of stuff there but the collection is the only

Big development today, surprising tbh. Do not want to jinx it yet bc it just gives me a thin line of hope. More to come and my extended gratitude to any law enforcement and related members of this for

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Congrats!  I was pretty skeptical you'd get them back, but happy to see they all made their way back to you in pretty unharmed condition.

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Man, you’re blessed. I’m glad you got them back, can’t imagine how you were feeling before this. 
You deserve to smoke at least one of the finest box of that collection.

 

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22 hours ago, Chas.Alpha said:

To clarify; I brought many boxes back from Cuba 2016-2019. All perfectly legal. If some legal beagle wanted to question boxes dated after 2019, I can cheerfully say that my friend Rob gifted me those when he came to visit. Again, perfectly legal. They are mine and I can possess them. By US law, I can't buy them. @Elpresidente can bring me 20 master cases, if he were so inclined...😳

Uh, he "might" have a bit of trouble getting those 20 mastercases through US customs. Just my 2c 😁

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On 7/18/2023 at 2:31 PM, Puros Y Vino said:

Glad to hear you got them back

  I'm curious though.   Assuming you're in the US.  How does the law approach a stolen Cuban cigar cache? 

1) Pound sand?

2) "We'd like you to answer some questions at the station?"

It seems neither was the case for you.  So, what is the standard here?

The difficulty is more for the prosecutors if they want to charge a crime with a minimum value. If the cigars are all that were taken, how should they be valued? If I were a defense attorney I’d demand proof they aren’t fakes too, which would require an expert witness and where you gonna find one of those in the US? Nightmare. As an ADA I’d plead this out to an M1 at most for just that reason. 

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1 hour ago, MrBirdman said:

The difficulty is more for the prosecutors if they want to charge a crime with a minimum value. If the cigars are all that were taken, how should they be valued? If I were a defense attorney I’d demand proof they aren’t fakes too, which would require an expert witness and where you gonna find one of those in the US? Nightmare. As an ADA I’d plead this out to an M1 at most for just that reason. 

Aside from the possession of stolen property charge, there is still the aspect of the burglary which is a felony regardless of value. 

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