I was just robbed…

[PuroDiario]

Incredible development. Speechless. I’ll discuss it on next zoom session. Question is if the effort of criminal charges worth it or not. Guy got scared after police got involved. Took them less than a week. 

[El Presidente]

Woooohoooo!!!!! 

[Fireball]

Surprisingly great news!!!

[benfica_77]

Wonderful news! They look to be in condition. Very happy for you!

[Pantone151]

Damn man you hit the lottery

[Gamer]

That is OUTSTANDING news!

[Ford2112]

Dude this is amazing ! Happy for you. 

[Marco_011t556]

Wow, congrats !!

[usleepicreep]

Great news!


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[Glass Half Full]

6 hours ago, PuroDiario said:

Confirmed inside job. There is a chance I can retrieve collection. What’s over/under the cigars are in good condition still?

Wonderful news!  IMO, and in some other experiences, I've found cigars to be very resilient given good post-care, conditions and given patience.  

[Wailbait]

I was following this thread and just had fingers crossed the whole time.  I, along with countless others I’m sure, would LOVE to hear the story.

[GoodStix]

Fantastic, congrats!

[Greenhorn2]

Go buy yourself a lottery ticket! Your luck is on a roll. Congratulations. 

[Connoisseur Kim]

It's happy to see you got your cigars back today. I hope that a heavy punishment will be given to the thief.

[KavalanWhisky]

Congratulations! What a rollercoaster of a thread, glad there was a happy ending!

[99call]

[99call]

9 hours ago, PuroDiario said:

Question is if the effort of criminal charges worth it or not. Guy got scared after police got involved. Took them less than a week. 

Thats a tough one.  For me if the person who committed the offence, was genuinely someone who had lost the plot through being,  Jobless, desperate, hungry etc. their first offence, a terrible mistake.   Your kindness in forgiveness might be the difference in them changing their ways, and getting a second chance.

However, if the person in a habitual offender, and theft is normalised for them,  I would throw the book at them, and press charges.  

[Bri Fi]

Glad to hear you got your stash back. 

[BrightonCorgi]

4 hours ago, 99call said:

Thats a tough one.  For me if the person who committed the offence, was genuinely someone who had lost the plot through being,  Jobless, desperate, hungry etc. their first offence, a terrible mistake.   Your kindness in forgiveness might be the difference in them changing their ways, and getting a second chance.

However, if the person in a habitual offender, and theft is normalised for them,  I would throw the book at them, and press charges.  

There needs to be consequences for criminal intent.  I don't buy desperation and hungry excuse; doesn't matter.  This wasn't a loaf of bread.

[Rhinoww]

Congrats. Fantastic news on getting your sticks back.

Hard to see this as a mulligan in my book unless there are extenuating circumstances. But that’s me. 
 

regardless fantastic news
 

[99call]

5 minutes ago, BrightonCorgi said:

There needs to be consequences for criminal intent.  I don't buy desperation and hungry excuse; doesn't matter.  This wasn't a loaf of bread.

It all comes down to, do you want more crime or less?  To imagine we are all not capable to horrific acts, really boils down to who we were born to, opportunities we've been given, lessons we have been taught by good people, love we have been given. etc etc.   

I don't feel as if I would ever steel anything from anyone, but I am a product of a good upbringing, education etc.  If I had shitty parents, no education, and was desperate,  maybe the line between right or wrong would seem very different to me.  It's not nature, it's nurture 

Having zero interest, in why someone has done something, and sending them off to con-college, is a multiplier of crime, not the other way around. 

I'm not suggesting forgiveness as a given, I'm saying if you can get an idea if that person, is someone who just found themselves in a spiralling situation, or if they are simply a lost cause.   If they are an habitual nasty piece of work, then I'm 100% in favour of putting them behind bars.   

It's a crossroads moment for some people,  I miraculous moment of forgiveness might be the first step in reforming their character,   but what we are 100% sure of, is that sending them to jail, means this is just the 1st crime they will be committing, .......sad but true.  

 

[dominattorney]

4 hours ago, 99call said:

It all comes down to, do you want more crime or less?  To imagine we are all not capable to horrific acts, really boils down to who we were born to, opportunities we've been given, lessons we have been taught by good people, love we have been given. etc etc.   

I don't feel as if I would ever steel anything from anyone, but I am a product of a good upbringing, education etc.  If I had shitty parents, no education, and was desperate,  maybe the line between right or wrong would seem very different to me.  It's not nature, it's nurture 

Having zero interest, in why someone has done something, and sending them off to con-college, is a multiplier of crime, not the other way around. 

I'm not suggesting forgiveness as a given, I'm saying if you can get an idea if that person, is someone who just found themselves in a spiralling situation, or if they are simply a lost cause.   If they are an habitual nasty piece of work, then I'm 100% in favour of putting them behind bars.   

It's a crossroads moment for some people,  I miraculous moment of forgiveness might be the first step in reforming their character,   but what we are 100% sure of, is that sending them to jail, means this is just the 1st crime they will be committing, .......sad but true.  

 

I wouldn't pursue charges if my stuff was returned unharmed, but I'm a criminal defense attorney by trade and at heart. See if the storage company gives you a free year? If you're still comfortable with them that is. 

[MrBirdman]

So glad this had a happy ending. I would make sure things aren't damaged, and if they aren't my own approach would be to ask police if the guy has a record. If not, I'd ask for a written apology and agree not to press charges in exchange. Not worth the aggravation of court dates, postponements, etc, nor the (admittedly minor) risk of getting cross-examined about where you bought/how much you paid for your Cuban cigars. There are other options if that feels too easy, though given the stash value shown just in that picture this would likely be felony grand larceny if fully charged.

Gotta go with your own gut though. 

[Puros Y Vino]

Glad to hear you got them back

  I'm curious though.   Assuming you're in the US.  How does the law approach a stolen Cuban cigar cache? 

1) Pound sand?

2) "We'd like you to answer some questions at the station?"

It seems neither was the case for you.  So, what is the standard here?

[Chibearsv]

44 minutes ago, Puros Y Vino said:

Glad to hear you got them back

  I'm curious though.   Assuming you're in the US.  How does the law approach a stolen Cuban cigar cache? 

1) Pound sand?

2) "We'd like you to answer some questions at the station?"

It seems neither was the case for you.  So, what is the standard here?

The fact that the cigars are Cuban probably doesn't matter at all to a local cop.  They'd probably only find that fact relevant if they thought it was a way to confiscate them for their own use.  Feds may have a different opinion though.