Colon cancer vs cigar

[El Presidente]

Take your time getting back to a cigar.  No hurry as nicotine can indeed disrupt your digestive tract. Take the right advice + listen to your body. 

Prayers sent to add steel to the fight. Reach out anytime. 

 

 

[SpecialK]

On 4/7/2023 at 10:08 PM, Fosgate said:

Truth

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1310404722840529

 

Great vids been a fan of Dave N . his video on the Beta 250 convinced me to buy one  

 

 

 

[Elvis]

Condolences. This is a tough situation all around. In answer to your question, I have first and experience, I was diagnosed with Stage 4 Colon Cancer around 2013 and posted a bit about my experience. 

https://www.fohcigars.com/forum/search/?&q=Cancer&author=Elvis&search_and_or=or

In my case, the cancer could have been detected much earlier if I just would have had an annual physical/checkup with my doctor. My wife kept making appointments for me and I kept blowing them off because somehow I thought my work was "more important".  So please everyone, get checked out yearly.

As far as cigars go, I can't imagine they would mix with chemo. Everything tasted like tin and I lost all appetite. It was altogether an unpleasant experience that I would not look forward to repeating. In general, I don't think it's a good idea to smoke when convalescing and your body is trying to heal itself, but that's just my opinion. I can't imagine any U.S. doctor going on record as saying that any amount nicotine consumption is acceptable, those are just the times that we live in. 

Choosing what risks to accept are very personal decisions that define us. I made mine but they are certainly not for everyone. I fully expect that cancer will resurface in some form or another whether I continue to smoke or not. Every five years are so there seems to be generational advances in the treatment of cancers which gives me reason to be optimistic. 

 

 

[Azksig]

Wow, that is crazy and sorry to hear. You guys have motivated me to schedule my colonoscopy.  Wishing you a speedy and full recovery.

[Fosgate]

Down 9 chemo treatments and 3 more to go! Still smoking every week. Been smoking Habano's more sparingly and finding Deadwood Tobacco Co's Chasing the Dragon Apricot and line of Nubs being my go to most frequently. 

[ltte]

On 4/10/2023 at 10:31 AM, El Presidente said:

Take your time getting back to a cigar.  No hurry as nicotine can indeed disrupt your digestive tract. Take the right advice + listen to your body. 

Prayers sent to add steel to the fight. Reach out anytime. 

 

 

Fosgate listen to your body - no doctor can know you better than yourself. I have been in the similar state in 2020 when I had an emergency colon operation when they "mounted" on my side a so called colostomy I received from doctor the advise TO NOT stop smoking (even in intensive care room) since nicotine have positive impact on digestive tract?!?!?

Quote from the doctor: "As soon as you are able to stand up on your feet, go to the window an light a cigarette. For long time smokers this have a positive effect on the digestive tract and this will help your body to start colon disposal in the plastic bag that we mounted on yours belly."

I was shocked in that time but I noticed later that the quality and the frequency of disposal in the bag is somehow connected by the level of nicotine that I consumed on specific day. Bigger nicotine does better faeces disposal.

I do not advocate such behavior, I just share my experience. There is no universal rule and everyone is individual case.

ltte

[Squarehead]

I wish for a speedy recovery for you and hopefully all goes well

[Fuzz]

15 hours ago, ltte said:

Fosgate listen to your body - no doctor can know you better than yourself. I have been in the similar state in 2020 when I had an emergency colon operation when they "mounted" on my side a so called colostomy I received from doctor the advise TO NOT stop smoking (even in intensive care room) since nicotine have positive impact on digestive tract?!?!?

Quote from the doctor: "As soon as you are able to stand up on your feet, go to the window an light a cigarette. For long time smokers this have a positive effect on the digestive tract and this will help your body to start colon disposal in the plastic bag that we mounted on yours belly."

I was shocked in that time but I noticed later that the quality and the frequency of disposal in the bag is somehow connected by the level of nicotine that I consumed on specific day. Bigger nicotine does better faeces disposal.

I do not advocate such behavior, I just share my experience. There is no universal rule and everyone is individual case.

ltte

 

 

[Silverstix]

On 4/7/2023 at 11:07 AM, Fosgate said:

 

Been one hell of a month. Went in for a colonoscopy as a prerequisite to get an abdominal hernia repair. Wound up finding cancer in my appendix region of my colon. Rushed me to surgery within a 10 days. Yanked the tumor out along with 47 lymph nodes, 7 of which were cancerous., fixed my hernia and gave me a zipper from my belt line to sternum in the process. Spent a week in the hospital after getting 3 transfusions of blood. Almost no pain after surgery and just taking 500mg plain Tylenol. I meet with oncology on the 11th to find out the chemo plan. Which is going to such. I don’t have anymore weight to loose on my frame for chemo.

 

My question is. Anyone out there go through colon cancer and still smoke cigars? How long before you can have a cigar? Precautions you take before during and after smoking. (Don’t swallow saliva etc). My last cigars a couple weeks was not enjoyable to my digestive tract and really messed with me.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

How are you feeling bro?

[Fosgate]

14 hours ago, Silverstix said:

How are you feeling bro?

Overall decent. Just got off the Chemo pump a couple days ago so dealing with a couple days of fatigue. Can't touch or put anything in my mouth lower than room temp without it stinging. Finger tips are numb, got the finger and toe nails coated with clear nail polish to keep them from peeling off. Keeping my weight up has been tough with some lost of taste. Days I'm on the pump I have be careful standing up, keep wanting to pass out when I stand up. 

[Fosgate]

No quitters




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Ford2112]

Damn bro hang in there and Godspeed.

[Silverstix]

On 9/1/2023 at 12:04 PM, Fosgate said:

Overall decent. Just got off the Chemo pump a couple days ago so dealing with a couple days of fatigue. Can't touch or put anything in my mouth lower than room temp without it stinging. Finger tips are numb, got the finger and toe nails coated with clear nail polish to keep them from peeling off. Keeping my weight up has been tough with some lost of taste. Days I'm on the pump I have be careful standing up, keep wanting to pass out when I stand up. 

"Overall decent" has been my motto this year.  Glad to hear you're looking at it glass half-full!  What else are we gonna do, tell everybody how miserable we are?!?!?! 😆

Does getting off the pump mean things are going in a good direction and you're finishing up treatment?

[Koaxke]

Hoping the best for you.  Cancer is a bitch

[Fosgate]

On 9/6/2023 at 4:44 AM, Silverstix said:

"Overall decent" has been my motto this year.  Glad to hear you're looking at it glass half-full!  What else are we gonna do, tell everybody how miserable we are?!?!?! 😆

Does getting off the pump mean things are going in a good direction and you're finishing up treatment?

I go in every two weeks and get to sit on a steroid drip for 3hrs and then they hook up a pump to the injection port that I have implanted near my collar bone. The pump contains the actual chemo meds that slowly get pumped in my for 48 hours. I disconnect it myself from there. So I normally go in on Monday morning, get myself stabbed for my blood work, consult and then the treatment. Usually out of there by 1-3pm then on Wednesday the pump runs dry anywhere from 10am-3pm depending on when they hooked up the pump. Wednesday, Thursday usually suck. Peak of cold sensitivity, teeth hurt, nausea, Dizzy spells, can't taste much, fatigue sets in. Some Wednesdays I just want to yank the pump line early. Your body knows its being poisoned and with the symptoms peaking I just want it out. I'll usually sleep all but a couple hours for a day or two after I disconnect the pump. I typically just wake up to force myself to eat something and go back to bed. I'm typically trying to find something to keep myself occupied. Couple weeks ago I drove a truckload of household goods for a friend moving to Texas. I drove `19hrs over two days and then crashed but not as hard as normal and I was feeling much better over the weekend. Still have to be cautious with the dizzy spells. Fell right over more than once since treatment started. Typically comes one when I stand up. Totally freaks the wife out. I just tell her I'm begging for attention or I'll say "what did you punch me for?" joking. (I'm 6'7 and she's a whopping 5ft)