El Presidente Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 Most of us have had a sneak preview into the new AI world over the past 3 months. Generally, IT leaps have created more jobs than they have removed. Will this oncoming revolution/evolution be the same? I am not sure that I would want to be a call line operator or even a programmer in 2025 There are far smarter people than I on FOH and some working at the heart of this new chapter. In your mind, what jobs are likely gone and where will the new jobs be made? 1
El Presidente Posted February 15, 2023 Author Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said: New job: servant to our AI overlords. 1 1
Bijan Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 Many of these jobs were ripe for getting rid of already, but it would have required the will to do it (to re-organize, reform or automate systems). Now suddenly those jobs can be filled by AI tech without making any structural/political changes. When this is going to get 🤯 is when jobs that we didn't think of as being on the way out are going to be replaced. 2
Popular Post Corylax18 Posted February 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2023 TSA Agent. I didn't interact with a single one as I went through a fully automated security line at O'Hare airport last week, its was the best security experience I've had post 9-11. More Counselors/Psychiatrist/Psychologists to help all the non productive people figure out why they're miserable. 3 1 3
Bijan Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 In terms of jobs that will be affected by this batch of AI: First: copywriters (already happening for a while on some clickbait type articles) web developers Second: Lawyers and clerks that work on fill in the blanks documents Third: Medical professionals that make diagnoses based on x-rays/scans/test results. I don't think these jobs are going to be eliminated entirely, but AI writing is going to increase productivity to the point there will be much fewer workers needed. 3
El Presidente Posted February 15, 2023 Author Posted February 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bijan said: In terms of jobs that will be affected by this batch of AI: First: copywriters (already happening for a while on some clickbait type articles) web developers Second: Lawyers and clerks that work on fill in the blanks documents Third: Medical professionals that make diagnoses based on x-rays/scans/test results. I don't think these jobs are going to be eliminated entirely, but AI writing is going to increase productivity to the point there will be much fewer workers needed. I will add Computer Installers. Ken bought a new laptop computer last week and the nominated installer has already resigned from the industry and checked himself into rehab. AI support could handle every idiotic question that comes its way with a level of intellect, patience and grace. Alternatively, Ken himself could bring the whole thing down and Microsoft lose their 10 Billion dollar investment. ......it will be a close call 1 3
yossie Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 You have to keep reminding what We still put premium on handmade products like cigar,watch. I strongly believe Current machines already can make cigars better than Cubans but seem no demand for.😅
Popular Post PigFish Posted February 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2023 When an AI agent/algorithm denies an AI agent errors and omissions insurance, all computers will spontaneously combust and Christ will return… Mark my words! lol 3 4
chutiste Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 When I hire a junior consultant, they’re often tasked with research, summarisation, and collation work. This helps free up my time and educates them about our clients, industries, markets, and my firm’s approaches to business consulting. Now it’s as easy to invoke chatgpt as to instruct a new person to pull together some generic material or to rephrase how something is written. But without the learning. (Well, something will be learning, but not one of my team.) David Allen Green made a similar point about lawyers recently: it’s the rote work that teaches a junior about what issues need more considered thought, how to frame things, etc. The next fresh-faced junior we hire I’ll equip with a chatgpt account so that they can have the rote conversations between them, which hopefully means we’ll be able to have more valuable next level human conversations sooner. Experiments in bootstrapping! (I say fresh-faced but we rarely hire new grads except as a favour. Most of them have been older with less traditional backgrounds and more life experience, which is better suited to the sensemaking work that we do. Clarity isn’t often found at the bottom of a standard methodology that’s been applied like sheep dip!) 3
NSXCIGAR Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 100% of all human employment will be building or maintaining whatever sex robots AI can give us. 1 2
KnightsAnole Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 https://indiaai.gov.in/article/innovate2transform-an-ai-check-for-quality-tobacco-leaves .. hard to predict an exponential curve when you’re in the dogleg. Expect the idea of a universal basic income to gain traction. 3
Kaptain Karl Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 Skilled manual labor and skilled white collar labor will be the huge winners. Low skilled white collared labor (secretaries, assistants, etc) are going to get crushed. The way I see it is my team will be able to do our jobs 2-3x as efficiently here within the next few years. 2
JohnnyO Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 More jobs for crystal meth manufacturers, fentanyl, distributors and the like. At least thats what "Globalization" did. John
Popular Post dominattorney Posted February 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2023 12 hours ago, chutiste said: David Allen Green made a similar point about lawyers recently: it’s the rote work that teaches a junior about what issues need more considered thought, how to frame things, etc. The next fresh-faced junior we hire I’ll equip with a chatgpt account so that they can have the rote conversations between them, which hopefully means we’ll be able to have more valuable next level human conversations sooner. Experiments in bootstrapping! 100 percent this. Try to automate everything and in 10 years everyone will be wondering why nothing works anymore, but the robots won't have a satisfactory answer. I fully appreciate that when I started out as a lawyer, an AI could have done certain aspects of my job better than I. I learned the old fashioned way. I made stupid mistakes and got told why they were stupid. I learned from them. Now I am certain I can do any legal work better than a robot. Having new entry level folks learn along side an AI is a great way to usefully integrate AI into the employment process without making the sky fall, methinks. 5
99call Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, Kaptain Karl said: Skilled manual labor and skilled white collar labor will be the huge winners. Low skilled white collared labor (secretaries, assistants, etc) are going to get crushed. The way I see it is my team will be able to do our jobs 2-3x as efficiently here within the next few years. I would agree with this. Pen pushers that got paid big doing non complex middle management, will be easily replaced. Basic manual workers will be easily replaced. It will be people with niche hands on manual skills complemented with a decent amount of tech proficiency will hopefully be the big winners. I work in an industry that can't really be replaced by AI, rather just assisted by it. Strangely industries that require a certain amount of human fallibility will be the safest I have my fingers crossed that I won't get churned into Soilant Green 1
Jason55555 Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 As my company is AI based and is also integrating and putting AI the forefront of our business I can tell you not much....as yet the technology is still in it's infant stages and you still need huge and I mean huge amounts of data to create feasible "AI" and huge amount of human skilled automation coding and automation coding. AI has just now evolved from your normal chat bot and IVR aka computer voice to what is now which is still in its infant stages. My company and other companies are striving to achieve the goal of "saving time and money" through a balanced approach that leverages both AI and human support. We anticipate that the future of AI (aka in the next 5-8 years) companies will need to put a large focus on augmenting human support, rather than replacing it entirely. That being said.......the biggest threat right now is companies hiring "experts" and these "experts" having a AI behind them. Therefore the real threat which most people are missing is not replacing people or jobs as there will always be new jobs and industries that pop up from AI. The real threat will come with AI algorithms, AI algorithms put you in echo chambers that only exposes you to what you like and similar views as you. Then voice AI , video AI and picture AI we run into a whole mess of what is real and what is fake (social media, news, pictures posted online) from what I've seen I can say very scary. Hopeful we see a whole mess of AI companies using the technology to counter these ill effects but right now everyone is just giddy at the shiny new tool. Que terminator music.... 1
Rhinoww Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 AI will replace many of the entry level white collar jobs that used to be stepping stones in the middle class. AI is the promise that IBM’s Watson made several years ago and never delivered. With enough data and enough computing power though many of those efficiencies will come to fruition 1
Hammer Smokin' Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 for us this means we can likely stop our use of India and outsourcing and go with AI. but for the business that we tried to use India, and it didn't work, that business will likely remain completely by real humans.
DaBoot Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 Any job doing sales and paperwork, watch out.. big corporations are cornering the market from real estate to car buying. With AI and EDI. All smart companies Will remove middle management, paper pushers and supervisors are obsolete. A computer will track your phone usage , keystrokes, and eye engagement on the job and grade you accordingly. Jobs created will be serving the computer overlords, repair techs, robotic building. 1
mnsmokes Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 The think the rise of consultants utilizing AI to “optimize” businesses will be interesting. It will be tough for SMBs and Enterprises alike to not give it a shot when they can reduce overhead drastically 1
KnightsAnole Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 4 hours ago, DaBoot said: With AI and EDI. All smart companies Will remove middle management, paper pushers and supervisors are obsolete. That’s an interesting angle I hadn’t considered, ( I’m sure there are tons ) but is a good example of how we could cut many, many jobs right off the bat with just the software. The problem is not the AI advancement right now, it’s a problem of production infrastructure, economy of scale and computing power. Pair a strong language model with one of the robots from Boston Dynamics and jobs will evaporate. Not nearly as many jobs will be created as lost, not even close. Many of the ‘new jobs’ in the AI field will be done by AI from programming to production. Software Engineers will be spared for a time…. It’s not inconceivable that eventually, every job could be done by AI better and for less money than a human…. Cue the universal basic income..
Bill Hayes Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 As an advertising/content copywriter I've learned of quite a few copywriters being made redundant already. ATM, the AI seems ok for creating paragraphs for websites and content. It may lack a bit of creativity but that can be weaved throughout. Haven't checked out yet who/what owns the content legally, the AI company or the person who asked the question. With a moral filter on the AI, I can see jobs increasing in the porn industry. And with the US courts deciding on the responsibilities of social media companies, I think censoring will increase, maybe sending some groups/individuals to find a voice in hidden corners of the internet. Maybe more jobs in applying moral codes across the board. 1
djrey Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 I think many of us will be pressed into trying to kill these things once they begin their takeover. kidding, but not kidding. 🤣🙄 3
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