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11 hours ago, JohnS said:

So there you go, this was disappointing in comparison to other Saint Luis Rey cigars I've enjoyed of late. I only have three Serie As and three Regios left in my humidor and I wonder when I will smoke them and whether I will acquire anymore. I wonder too if you can relate to this predicament?

Although the soft bready creamy apricot of an SLDC is a white whale experience, I actually find aged HU Mag50s are pretty similar with my preferred backbone of the Upmann blend obviously stepping in. 

I managed to nab two boxed of the fantastic Regio run that happened in 21 I think?.    I love them as instead of that apricot thing, they presented a clean raspberry tang combined with a rich barnyard manure, sounds terrible, but they are sublime.    As I referenced with the Serie A, that balance of light and dark, i.e. soft fruits/florals,  with  leather, dark chocolate, manure,  is such a difficult blend to master.    Often it's glorious, but sometimes it has the ability to really hit a bum note on a specific palate. 

I know some members have also said the Mag50 has the capability to present an overripe melon character, that they can find to be unpleasant and jarring. 

In conclusion fruitiness in blending is bloody difficult to get right. 

 

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10 hours ago, 99call said:

Although the soft bready creamy apricot of an SLDC is a white whale experience, I actually find aged HU Mag50s are pretty similar with my preferred backbone of the Upmann blend obviously stepping in.

Oh yes indeed. I would wholeheartedly agree with this assessment.

10 hours ago, 99call said:

I managed to nab two boxed of the fantastic Regio run that happened in 21 I think?.    I love them as instead of that apricot thing, they presented a clean raspberry tang combined with a rich barnyard manure, sounds terrible, but they are sublime.    As I referenced with the Serie A, that balance of light and dark, i.e. soft fruits/florals,  with  leather, dark chocolate, manure,  is such a difficult blend to master.    Often it's glorious, but sometimes it has the ability to really hit a bum note on a specific palate.

Regios being tangy...well said.

Serie A, yes well it wasn't everyone's cup of tea or else they'd still be around you would think.

10 hours ago, 99call said:

I know some members have also said the Mag50 has the capability to present an overripe melon character, that they can find to be unpleasant and jarring. 

In conclusion fruitiness in blending is bloody difficult to get right.

It is, yes. Citrus twang can overshadow other flavours present in a blend quite easily.

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17 hours ago, JohnS said:

sweet caramel and floral notes with hints of underlying mushroom

I'm always banging on about certain truisms I find within the gourmand and epicurean world John.    What do you think about cigars that seem to gain their power and dynamism in marrying juxtaposing flavours.    I've always been completely sold on the perfumers concept that in order for a scent to sing sweetly, it has to have a little rotten weaved into the composition.    I little bit like how some dark chocolate can seem sweeter or richer if it had sea salt/chilli within its composition, It sort of amplifies everything. 

I'd be really interested to hear you're opinion John.  do you think cigars like the Partagas Presidente and the Boli no 1,   sing a louder song, by combining something sweet with something rotten/umami?

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5 hours ago, JohnS said:

Hoyo de Monterrey Le Hoyo des Dieux? Exactly how does forest floor flavours, wood and cream appeal? Somehow, it works.

Really enjoyed that John,  something about what you wrote....made me realise we are never quite ready for the greatest cigars.  They are revelatory. we have our ideas of what we want them to be....but as they take their journey, we are just passengers.    When we get off that train, we can have a range of emotions, from disappointment, confusion, satisfaction, elation............ but whats really impressive is when we've really enjoyed something that make no bloody sense.    It's elemental.   like blue cheese and quince paste.   On paper it should never work, but it's utter magic.  the two things spar with each other, but also meld.  They are simultaneously at opposite ends of the spectrum, but they are also perfectly hand in glove. 

I hate terms like aficionado or connoisseur, as they are full of arrogance and self reverence, but I do like the word gourmand, It brings to mind a notion of someone who is obsessional about food and the enjoyment of it. Someone that wants to know what they enjoy and why.   I do feel like there are certain blends Partagas Presidente, Boli 1, Trini Coloniales, RGPC, Des Dieux, Du Gourmet   that go beyond enjoyment,  they ask something of the consumer 

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5 hours ago, 99call said:

It's elemental.   like blue cheese and quince paste.   On paper it should never work, but it's utter magic.  the two things spar with each other, but also meld.  They are simultaneously at opposite ends of the spectrum, but they are also perfectly hand in glove.

What a wonderful example that is. Yes, this is a delicacy I quite enjoy myself from time to time.

5 hours ago, 99call said:

I do feel like there are certain blends Partagas Presidente, Boli 1, Trini Coloniales, RGPC, Des Dieux, Du Gourmet   that go beyond enjoyment,  they ask something of the consumer 

I believe I know what you mean here. It's like saying that one needs a refined and informed appreciation when approaching these types of cigars.

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On 5/13/2023 at 1:23 PM, JohnS said:

Cohiba Espléndidos PLM Oct 2006

Of all the recent changes to pricing by Habanos S.A., especially in regard to their premium marcas Cohiba and Trinidad, I would opine that this vitola would be amongst those that Habanos enthusiasts would still perhaps buy (or want to buy) on a special occasion but would very rarely smoke. The Cohiba Siglo VI and Lanceros may be other vitolas I would categorise into this newfound classification, that is, if one can actually find them.

As it is, I find I smoke a Cohiba Esplendidos very rarely, perhaps once or twice a year. (Admittedly, I've smoked a little more of late, in the past twelve months!) At that rate, I would surmise I have enough for a lifetime. It's understandable though, isn't it? We are talking about a cigar that would auction at around $US70 a stick on Bond Roberts in 2020 if it was more than ten years old to costing around $US130 to $US140 a stick if auctioned on the same site today. (The last two auctions of partial boxes of Cohiba Esplendidos, from 2006 and 2007 respectively, went for around that mark in February/March 2023.) Heck, a brand new box of current Cohiba Esplendidos retails for just under $US80 a stick nowadays. Who can afford such a venture? Well...yes, there are people out there, probably just not you and me! Just don't hold your breath trying to acquire any recent 2022/23 stock though.

In light of all this, I would like to warmly thank you @Trevor2118 for gifting me this incredible cigar! This cigar comes from circa late 2006, and at sixteen-and-a-half years of age, it didn't lack in any way in terms of flavour.
 
It was pleasantly mild in strength and the question of flavour or 'expiry' was a moot point as I got some very typical Esplendidos flavours from this. These were consistent with the Cohiba Clasica line, such as milk coffee, butter, honey and vanilla. There was no real spice nor Cohiba grass/hay, which you can get in these Clasica line cigars at times, but which I find more consistent in the Siglo line. The flavours had also melded thoroughly so that any mocha flavour has well-dissipated by now. In other words, the coffee notes here were light, it was the honey and vanilla sweetness that shone through here. Of course, I nubbed it as far as the safety of my fingers allowed me to!

After smoking this Cohiba Esplendidos I thought to myself that the days of smoking Cohiba cigars as regularly as I once did are definitely over (ironically I have smoked 6 examples in this calendar year thus far). Nevertheless, I take comfort in the fact that we have other wonderful Cuban (and Non-Cuban) cigars to explore and appreciate into the 

I had a excellent box of PLM 06 El Laguito Espies...glad u were able to sample one! 

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