El Presidente Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 London | For the past two decades, foodies have flocked to Copenhagen to pay hundreds of pounds each to sample Noma’s 20-course tasting menu of dishes painstakingly constructed from the freshest foraged ingredients. However, despite charging customers £650 ($1145) for such dishes as grilled reindeer’s heart on a bed of fresh pine, the three Michelin-starred “world’s best restaurant” has now been forced to close saying it can no longer afford to pay its 100 staff a fair wage. CONTINUED
Cjake75 Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 I got 6 whitetail hearts in the freezer that I can put on a bed of white pine and charge half price for it! 🤣 2
Arabian Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Their business is unsustainable from another article. I think the next Michelin star restaurant might be a cloud kitchen. The pandemic showed how fragile this industry is. 1
Ken Gargett Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 i have eaten reindeer. can't say it was something i'd opt for ahead of a good steak or even some really top notch spicy snags. never made noma. looked at doing it once. for me, the owner/chef always came across as way too pretentious and totally up himself. that may be unfair and he can obviously cook. i know lots of arrogant chefs but most of them are actually nice guys and you want to eat the food. him, never felt that. i am sure it is my loss. 1 1
Low Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 This is a sad day. Rene Redzepi is a serious artist when it comes to food. The man took so many influences and ideas then pushed them beyond the boundaries of what people thought they could be. Eating his food was a humbling experience, felt almost like I got to see Mozart perform. 1
Ken Gargett Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, Low said: This is a sad day. Rene Redzepi is a serious artist when it comes to food. The man took so many influences and ideas then pushed them beyond the boundaries of what people thought they could be. Eating his food was a humbling experience, felt almost like I got to see Mozart perform. as i said, my loss.
cigcars Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 *They need to significantly lower their price and they will get more regular people in there. Look at Taco Bell: $1.00 menu items years ago and they were swamped with customers. As is clear, there are more "regular" people than people with multi-jillions to spend here and there. Just follow REALITY and I'm sure they would still be in business, no matter how much they may despise us ordinarily financed folks. 1
Arabian Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 32 minutes ago, cigcars said: *They need to significantly lower their price and they will get more regular people in there. Look at Taco Bell: $1.00 menu items years ago and they were swamped with customers. As is clear, there are more "regular" people than people with multi-jillions to spend here and there. Just follow REALITY and I'm sure they would still be in business, no matter how much they may despise us ordinarily financed folks. I think if this restaurant is located in NY or London where plenty of rich locals or tourists around, the restaurants might survive.
potpest Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 They are still in business, but will be operating as a laboratory and holding pop up events for dining. No staff are being laid off, it's essentially a change of business model.Noma was always a restaurant on my bucket list, I'll probably never get there now but there's no doubt Rene redzepi has had and will continue to have a huge influence on the world of gastronomy. Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using Tapatalk
Low Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: as i said, my loss. Oh my comment wasn't a slight at you, just sharing my experience
Ken Gargett Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Low said: Oh my comment wasn't a slight at you, just sharing my experience i didn't take it that way at all. i should have made the effort. 1
dominattorney Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 @Ken Gargett. I recently dined at Pujol and Quintonil while visiting mexico city. Must say, I was blown away by Pujol but severely disappointed by Quintonil, which was more than 2x the price. Roughly 400 usd per person. Our entire table got sick after the 10 course tasting and not one person finished each course. Some were just humorously over worked concept wise, like it was trying to justify itself as a high concept. I love the idea of weird or artistic food, but some places just go overboard in my opinion. It's like anything else. Just because you don't like it doesn't necessarily mean it's your fault, or you're missing out. Anyone visiting CDMX though, go to Pujol. Blow your socks off good. Just the right amount of elevation and not as much presumption. 1
TroutBum Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Venison Heart sandwich is the end of a successful day in the woods in these parts… 1
Ken Gargett Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 4 hours ago, dominattorney said: @Ken Gargett. I recently dined at Pujol and Quintonil while visiting mexico city. Must say, I was blown away by Pujol but severely disappointed by Quintonil, which was more than 2x the price. Roughly 400 usd per person. Our entire table got sick after the 10 course tasting and not one person finished each course. Some were just humorously over worked concept wise, like it was trying to justify itself as a high concept. I love the idea of weird or artistic food, but some places just go overboard in my opinion. It's like anything else. Just because you don't like it doesn't necessarily mean it's your fault, or you're missing out. Anyone visiting CDMX though, go to Pujol. Blow your socks off good. Just the right amount of elevation and not as much presumption. would love to see really top notch pointy end mexican food. know what you mean about some going too far. i have been to el cellar can roca in girona a number of times. every time they have been as close to perfect as one could wish. lots of innovation and weirdness but sensational. amazing value. for me, still the world's best. granted there are many place si have not been. 1
dominattorney Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: would love to see really top notch pointy end mexican food. know what you mean about some going too far. i have been to el cellar can roca in girona a number of times. every time they have been as close to perfect as one could wish. lots of innovation and weirdness but sensational. amazing value. for me, still the world's best. granted there are many place si have not been. And many places none of us will ever visit. Some are worth it. Some are not. 1
El Presidente Posted January 11, 2023 Author Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: would love to see really top notch pointy end mexican food. I was taken to a 5 star mexican restaurant in NY many moons ago. Until that day, I didn't realise 5 star mexican food existed. Magnificent clean flavours. Not an enchilada or taco to be seen.
Fuzz Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, El Presidente said: I was taken to a 5 star mexican restaurant in NY many moons ago. Until that day, I didn't realise 5 star mexican food existed. Magnificent clean flavours. Not an enchilada or taco to be seen. The 5 stars was the rating from the NYC Health Dept.
Corylax18 Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 It happens all the time unfortunately. Tik Tok ruined one of my favorite restaurants in Denver. A Country Japanese restaurant called Domo that had been here for years. One stupid tik tok, it got way to popular for them to handle and the owner refused to let the quality drop. So they just closed. 1
Greenhorn2 Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 19 hours ago, Arabian said: I think if this restaurant is located in NY or London where plenty of rich locals or tourists around, the restaurants might survive. You may be right but it wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hades in Mayodan.
Kitchen Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, El Presidente said: I was taken to a 5 star mexican restaurant in NY many moons ago. Until that day, I didn't realise 5 star mexican food existed. Magnificent clean flavours. Not an enchilada or taco to be seen. You have to visit Cali and have Mexican then! Although French is my favorite cuisine, Mexican is my second, and one worth exploring. In any event, everyone knows the best way to serve heart is to make a Pâté. Of course you also need the liver, solid fats (preferably pork), and a sticky panade. 1
Ken Gargett Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, Kitchen said: You have to visit Cali and have Mexican then! Although French is my favorite cuisine, Mexican is my second, and one worth exploring. In any event, everyone knows the best way to serve heart is to make a Pâté. Of course you also need the liver, solid fats (preferably pork), and a sticky panade. having read don winslow's brilliant cartel trilogy, i reckon that might be as close as i ever get.
Wookie Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Michelin stars have been a joke for 30 years now.
Puros Y Vino Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 If tales of pretentious Chefs and restaurants are your thing, I highly recommend the recent movie. "The Menu". 1
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