'Spare'. or better still, 'Spare Us'.

[Ken Gargett]

personally, i think that harry has proved himself to be the ultimate tosser on the planet (yes, i am aware that not everyone thinks that but i cannot be responsible for people getting it wrong) and outdone last year's title holder kyrios. no doubt the spoilt tennis brat - "nobody understands the pressure i am under", because apparently he is the first high level athlete on the planet -  will do something to regain the title but after harry's stellar grubbiness, it will have to be good (if there is a god, please let it be a first round loss).

anyway, we now have 'spare', or as jan moir of the daily mail put it, 'spare us'. she has asked 20 questions. i thought it worth posting them, for those who missed out. and if there are any fans of the toxic twosome here, feel free to answer on their behalf. 

 

 

Over the next few days, Prince Harry will subject himself to a round of television interviews to support his bombshell autobiography, Spare. The broadcasts in the UK and America will be conducted by hand-picked presenters who are likely to be broadly sympathetic to his cause — but will they get to the heart of royal matters? Here are the 20 questions Jan Moir wants Harry to answer . . .

 

1 Harry, have you ever done anything wrong in your life, or is everything always someone else’s fault?

 

2 Which member of the Royal Family expressed concerns about the colour of Archie’s skin and why haven’t you mentioned it again in six hours of Netflix documentary and hundreds of pages of your book? And can you explain the puzzling discrepancies in the accounts of this event you and Meghan have given?

She told Oprah there were ‘several conversations’. You told Oprah ‘that conversation I’m never going to share,’ which implied that there was only one comment. Who, if anyone, is telling the truth?

3 Congratulations on losing your virginity in a field to an ‘older woman’ who treated you ‘like a stallion’. Does this mean she supplied you with quality hay and a salt block? Or is there another connotation to those words? Actually, please don’t tell us. We just can’t take any more.

 

4 Do you have sympathy for dear Elizabeth Hurley, who has been moved to publicly state that the ‘older woman’ in question is not her? Or do you believe the bikini entrepreneur is still spiffing top totty who maybe protesteth too much but you can’t remember anyway because you had been taking drugs and talking to bins that night?

 

5 This is important, please concentrate. Meghan told a television audience of millions that your son Archie was denied a royal title against protocol, also referring to ‘concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born’.

It is plausible that she may not have grasped the finer points of complicated royal protocols and hereditary titles. But you understand this world all too well. Why did you never correct her provocative assumption?

 

6 On this subject, why don’t you and your family do the decent thing and ditch your royal titles? Your Royal Highness, if I may be so bold, you profess to loathe the institution and all it stands for — so why not set yourself free from such a conspicuous connection to it?

 

7 One thing that puzzles everyone. Right at the beginning, you and Meghan claimed to be committed working members of the Royal Family. Yet now it has become clear that you were negotiating contracts with Netflix and storing up fly-on-wall footage from day one. Was Megxit a financial strategy and a foregone conclusion?

 

8 Which of the following do you think best describes you?

a) pathetic

b) vengeful

c) a bit dim

d) proud Taliban killer

e) loving brother and son

f) someone who says ‘yes dear’ a lot

 

 

9 Was it wise, Private Pike, to reveal you killed 25 members of the Taliban in Afghanistan?

 

10 Speaking of bad guys, how can you justify your comment that your family ‘want to keep us as the villains’? Particularly when they have maintained a dignified silence over the firestorm of accusations and insults you have hurled at them recently?

 

11 Can you explain why Meghan told Oprah that when she was pregnant with your son, she had thoughts of suicide, ‘didn’t want to be alive’ and believed she was not allowed to seek professional help for her mental health crisis?

Bearing in mind that you had a personal therapist on speed dial at the time and, indeed, immediately called this person after a physical altercation with your brother.

Is there some arcane royal law that states ye prince shall verily have ye therapiste sessions yet his ladywife musteth not?

 

12 You and Meghan have talked at length about your ‘basic right to privacy’. Fair enough, but why have you so brutally invaded the privacy of others? Was it fair, for example, to reveal that the King, in the hours after burying his own father, wearily appealed to you and your brother not to spoil his last years by fighting?

 

13 Do you think the King will ever forgive you for revealing that you and William begged him not to marry Camilla because you believed she would become a ‘wicked stepmother’?

 

14 Which of the following would you say best describes the Princess of Wales?

a) bit of a baby brain

b) the sister I never had

c) a wife who fits the royal mould

d) Mrs Arch-Nemesis

e) a bit scary, tbh

 

 

15 A major flashpoint came when William told you that Meghan was ‘difficult and abrasive’ towards staff. Illogically, you accused your brother of accepting the ‘Press narrative’ on this matter, even though he must have experienced first-hand and second-hand accounts of her behaviour.

Did you at any point stop to ask yourself if there could be any truth in what he was saying? Or do you believe St Meghan of Montecito can do no wrong?

 

16 You say you were always in competition with your brother, whom you called your ‘arch-nemesis’. Yet, like you, William did not choose his destiny, nor to be heir to the throne.

You understand his position better than most, so why choose betrayal instead of being supportive of him?

 

17 You claim that because of your privileged upbringing, you had no idea the word ‘P***’ was a racial slur. And also that it was those rotters William and Kate who encouraged you to wear a Nazi uniform to a fancy dress party.

Yet you were 20 years old and an officer cadet at Sandringham when these things happened — when are you going to properly accept responsibility for your flaws as well as your strengths?

 

18 You have never met your father-in-law Thomas Markle, who has now been ostracised by you and Meghan for talking to the Press. Yet what you have done — Oprah, Netflix, an autobiography, television interviews — is a thousand times more invasive and incendiary.

You say that family is important to you — yet you are kinder to your rescue chickens than you are to Thomas, a lonely old man in poor health. Isn’t it time to finally meet him, forgive him and introduce him to his young grandchildren before it’s too late?

 

19 Despite your claims to the contrary, you were invited to Sandringham for Christmas and the King has made it known that he wants you and Meghan to be at his Coronation — yet you are refusing to say whether you will attend. How does this square with your stated belief that the Royal Family are ‘showing no willingness to reconcile?’

 

20 Harry, in Spare you spare no one’s blushes except your own. Is this a one and done? Or should we all prepare ourselves for Spare 2: Now Meghan Has Her Say?

No need to reply. I think we all know the terrible answer to that.

[El Presidente]

.....they have a great marketing team if they have you talking about it on a cigar forum 

[SCgarman]

12 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

.....they have a great marketing team if they have you talking about it on a cigar forum 

LOL 😁

[Ken Gargett]

43 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

.....they have a great marketing team if they have you talking about it on a cigar forum 

they'd have a much better one if i could find a single positive thing to say. 

[El Presidente]

4 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

they'd have a much better one if i could find a single positive thing to say. 

They don't care

They win either way. They understand clickbait.

 

[Ken Gargett]

18 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

They don't care

They win either way. They understand clickbait.

this from the man who has asked us all to predict the future of twitter. 

[El Presidente]

56 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said:

this from the man who has asked us all to predict the future of twitter. 

Perhaps understandably, you miss the point entirely. 

For every $100 he makes from the book, he will make $100,000 (well his digital marketing team will rake for "team sussex") through digital leverage.  

They are milking it "royally".

The thing they fear most is lack of digital oxygen. 

You are simply lining their pockets 

[Ken Gargett]

52 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

Perhaps understandably, you miss the point entirely. 

For every $100 he makes from the book, he will make $100,000 (well his digital marketing team will rake for "team sussex") through digital leverage.  

They are milking it "royally".

The thing they fear most is lack of digital oxygen. 

You are simply lining their pockets 

no, i understand all that. but i posted a piece that was forwarded to me so i did not click on anything.

and i would have assumed, i could be wrong, that posted here where members click on it, benefits you and not them? 

[anacostiakat]

  Funniest thing I heard was from Jimmy Failla who said something to the effect that MM should be on a True Crime show for stealing Harry's balls.  

[Chibearsv]

I started reading the list of questions and then ultimately decided I don't care.  I don't understand the interest in a book written by someone that grew up in a family and a lifestyle that nobody else can relate to.  And then, the shocking headline story is that 2 brothers got into a fight?  Gimme a break.

On the other hand, my wife will read it cover to cover and want to tell me all about it.  That's when I'll head for the garage cigar lounge.  🤣  

[Dozerhead]

9 hours ago, Chibearsv said:

I started reading the list of questions and then ultimately decided I don't care.  I don't understand the interest in a book written by someone that grew up in a family and a lifestyle that nobody else can relate to.  And then, the shocking headline story is that 2 brothers got into a fight?  Gimme a break.

 

Could not have said it any better myself. 

[Ken Gargett]

3 hours ago, therealrsr said:

Only opinion I have formed through all this was reinforcing the belief that the Queen Consort is one nasty bitch behind that facade.  She and MM seem to be kindred spirits.

a friend who knows most of this miserable lot and and knew camilla long before charles ever met diana always said she (as in camilla) was by far the best of the lot. really good person. he had very little time at all for diana. thought she was utterly brainless whereas he always described camilla as smart, good fun, decent person. i would not take harry's view on his stepmum as anything other than perhaps a little biased. 

[BrightonCorgi]

On 1/9/2023 at 3:20 PM, Ken Gargett said:

a friend who knows most of this miserable lot and and knew camilla long before charles ever met diana always said she (as in camilla) was by far the best of the lot. really good person. he had very little time at all for diana. thought she was utterly brainless whereas he always described camilla as smart, good fun, decent person. i would not take harry's view on his stepmum as anything other than perhaps a little biased. 

Just like on the TV series The Crown.  Harry is an utter fool; dumb as can be.  Every family talks about what the newest edition may look like.  Has nothing to do with race.  Guaranteed he could've married the darkest girl in town and if she was nice, the royals would embrace her as much as Kate. 

 

 

[Ken Gargett]

3 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

Just like on the TV series The Crown.  Harry is an utter fool; dumb as can be.  Every family talks about what the newest edition may look like.  Has nothing to do with race.  Guaranteed he could've married the darkest girl in town and if she was nice, the royals would embrace her as much as Kate.

i think this is spot on. what i just love is the way he bitches about privacy and then trashes the privacy of everyone else and seems to genuinely believe that he is entitled to do that. throws grenades at everyone in the family and then insists that the 'ball is in their court' if they want to reconcile. as you say, as dumb as can be. 

[ayedfy]

On the other hand, my wife will read it cover to cover and want to tell me all about it.  That's when I'll head for the garage cigar lounge.    

On yet another hand, I look forward to my wife reading this book. I might even buy it for her myself.

Until recent events, I haven’t had much reason to care for H&M. I have nothing that could be construed as a positive emotion towards any member of the royal family, including those who voluntarily marry into it. But my wife, Diana tragic she is, happens to think they’re the most romantic, adorable celebrity couple she’s ever seen.

After their infamous Oprah interview, my wife came to bed and, um… passionately communicated those romantic feelings the interview had stirred up.

I don’t really care what they are talking about in interviews, but I strongly encourage them to continue giving as many as possible.

[99call]

13 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

Just like on the TV series The Crown.  Harry is an utter fool; dumb as can be.  Every family talks about what the newest edition may look like.  Has nothing to do with race.  Guaranteed he could've married the darkest girl in town and if she was nice, the royals would embrace her as much as Kate. 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

i think this is spot on. what i just love is the way he bitches about privacy and then trashes the privacy of everyone else and seems to genuinely believe that he is entitled to do that. throws grenades at everyone in the family and then insists that the 'ball is in their court' if they want to reconcile. as you say, as dumb as can be. 

Hmm I don't think this is spot on.  In terms of racism in the royal household the Duke of Edinburgh was well known for it.  Whether you call it 'lazy racism' i.e. some old man unrelentingly wanting to use language they did when they were 20yrs old, even know they know its offensive......it's still racisim. 

For the record, I think Meghan was much more likely openly mocked because of her class, then her race.  I think we can all realise The Crown is a dramatisation, rather than a factual programme. That said there was a scene with a young Diana, whereby she was affectively bullied on mass in a ring of Royals, where by they were playing games at her expense, as she had no idea what they were all talking about. 

It's one thing for someone from the public to meet a Royal at some occasion, where they are incredibly kind and charming, but it's pretty well known that amongst themselves they has have a wealth of 'issues' and personally I find it very easy to imagine their private lives are full of sniping,  undermining, and passive aggression. 

I think the problem with this story that lots of people cant quite come to terms with is,  that lots of thinks are probably true at the same time:

1,  Meghan Markle, is probably a f-ing nightmare bunny boiler, who thinks that (much like Bono & Angelina Jolie) being an actress also qualifies her to give Ted Talks, and can give lectures to international charities etc.  

2,  The Royal household, Is most likely an incredibly unwelcoming, toxic place, for anyone who isn't one of 'them',  especially not a mixed race, working class American.   Yes they were very welcoming to her in public, but for my money, I don't think this is an accurate reflection of what took place when the cameras were not rolling.  If they are hateful to one another, whats the chance they are going to behave for strangers. 

3,  William and Harry, are most likely both damaged goods..... how could they not be.  Someone said the Royals "thrives on mystique".  The Queen did this to excellent affect.  The public (in the main) will love the Royals, as long as they keep their mouths shut and wave.  Airing all the dirty laundry affectively just burns the royals capital, and makes no more respectable than Jo-public.........which is of course they aren't. 

In short.....they are all dickheads.......................well.................apart from Kate........OOOOOhhhhh Kate.....sweet sweet Kate.   Even though I dislike the monarchy intensely I'm rather fond of Kate. 

[Cigar-Therapy]

Having class or grace seems to be very selective … Harry is just the spoilt younger sibling (I’m the youngest sibling and I’m not this bad) who has married a succubus.  

I don’t blame him for being a moron… I blame him for staying one. 
 

35 minutes ago, 99call said:

I'm rather fond of Kate.

I’ve always had a fondness for Kate as well.  Probably because she doesn’t come off as a blood sucking fame ha-ore.  

[BrightonCorgi]

Harry wearing a Nazi costume is all you need to know about how dumb and out of touch he is.

[ayedfy]

9 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

Harry wearing a Nazi costume is all you need to know about how dumb and out of touch he is.

And it’s not even the most despicable uniform he’s been seen wearing…

[99call]

34 minutes ago, ayedfy said:

And it’s not even the most despicable uniform he’s been seen wearing…

[Ken Gargett]

10 hours ago, 99call said:

 

Hmm I don't think this is spot on.  In terms of racism in the royal household the Duke of Edinburgh was well known for it.  Whether you call it 'lazy racism' i.e. some old man unrelentingly wanting to use language they did when they were 20yrs old, even know they know its offensive......it's still racisim. 

For the record, I think Meghan was much more likely openly mocked because of her class, then her race.  I think we can all realise The Crown is a dramatisation, rather than a factual programme. That said there was a scene with a young Diana, whereby she was affectively bullied on mass in a ring of Royals, where by they were playing games at her expense, as she had no idea what they were all talking about. 

It's one thing for someone from the public to meet a Royal at some occasion, where they are incredibly kind and charming, but it's pretty well known that amongst themselves they has have a wealth of 'issues' and personally I find it very easy to imagine their private lives are full of sniping,  undermining, and passive aggression. 

I think the problem with this story that lots of people cant quite come to terms with is,  that lots of thinks are probably true at the same time:

1,  Meghan Markle, is probably a f-ing nightmare bunny boiler, who thinks that (much like Bono & Angelina Jolie) being an actress also qualifies her to give Ted Talks, and can give lectures to international charities etc.  

2,  The Royal household, Is most likely an incredibly unwelcoming, toxic place, for anyone who isn't one of 'them',  especially not a mixed race, working class American.   Yes they were very welcoming to her in public, but for my money, I don't think this is an accurate reflection of what took place when the cameras were not rolling.  If they are hateful to one another, whats the chance they are going to behave for strangers. 

3,  William and Harry, are most likely both damaged goods..... how could they not be.  Someone said the Royals "thrives on mystique".  The Queen did this to excellent affect.  The public (in the main) will love the Royals, as long as they keep their mouths shut and wave.  Airing all the dirty laundry affectively just burns the royals capital, and makes no more respectable than Jo-public.........which is of course they aren't. 

In short.....they are all dickheads.......................well.................apart from Kate........OOOOOhhhhh Kate.....sweet sweet Kate.   Even though I dislike the monarchy intensely I'm rather fond of Kate. 

i'm the last person to be defending the royal family but i'm not basing what i said one a single meeting at some occasion. as i said, my mate knew her well. to be honest, i don't have enough interest in them all to have asked for any further details but i gather it was a long time ago, before and possibly during the time charles first got to know her. my mate, who does not hold back if he is unimpressed, spoke very highly of her. good fun, smart. i gather he was part of various circles which included her, i would guess (he later got to know charles well - i do know how that came about and it was nothing to do with camilla - and the two of them spent a lot of time together for several years. he was at the wedding. never said much about charles but i gather he liked him and had respect for him but if i read between the lines, i think he felt a bit sorry for the bloke, being shoehorned into a marriage he had little interest in. my mate was scathing about diana. not a good word). 

i should also add that anything i have said has nothing to do with the crown tv. i think i have seen the first series but little more. i have no idea if they played games at diana's expense and would not take a tv series as evidence. 

phillip was always racist back in the day, as were many of his ilk and era. the problem is that anything he said or did fifty years ago gets set in stone and rolled out whenever he makes a gaff or anyone claims racism. did he remain so? i'd always thought not but who knows. but labelling him racist for crap from years ago is no different to saying harry dressed up as a nazi so he must still be a racist. 

otherwise, what you have described could be applied to almost any family. but labelling them all dickheads might be a touch harsh. i have no doubt that if the world had eyes on me 24/7, i'd been seen as a dickhead as well. no offence but i suspect ditto yourself and most of us. because they can ignore 99% of what we might do/say/achieve and make an absolute mountain out of the 1%. 

[99call]

8 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

otherwise, what you have described could be applied to almost any family. but labelling them all dickheads might be a touch harsh. i have no doubt that if the world had eyes on me 24/7, i'd been seen as a dickhead as well. no offence but i suspect ditto yourself and most of us. because they can ignore 99% of what we might do/say/achieve and make an absolute mountain out of the 1%. 

Ken the current translation of 'dickhead' in the UK, is 'silly idiot', I'm not sure if it has a different level of severity in Aussie.   I think anyones family (mine included) can cause us all to act like silly idiots or dickheads from time to time, and I don't think any of us are immune, and thats my point to some degree, that there is nothing special about them, they are just people and able to make gaffs like the rest of us. 

My biggest issue with this story, is the majority seem to be on either the Royals, or Harry and Meghans side,  my belief is that, more than likely they are all in the wrong and in the right to similar degrees, it's just a massive mess, and looking for a villain is likely a lost cause.

I'm no fan of Diana, it was merely an illustration that someone many might see as being cut from the same cloth, and someone likely to fit in, was still forever seen and treated like an outsider, and yes, I agree,  it's likely she didn't make that any easier. 

 

[El Hoze]

My news feed is constantly clogged with Harry and MM stuff even though I have zero interest in them. i realized it is from Kate, she is definitely effective click-bait for me. Total class. 

[Corylax18]

It looks like we've reached a general consensus. Megan is a Malignant C#&t. Harry is a spineless moron. Kate can get it. 

[PigFish]

Never knew Harry Potter got married… What’s her name again?

the Pig