HEPA filter to remove cigar smell

[fuhrert]

Hello everyone,

I would like to take this opportunity and thank you all for the valuable discussions and insights and to wish you and your families a happy, healthy, and successful 2023. It has been a great joy and rewarding experience for me to be part of FoH community.

I would very much appreciate your advice on the following matter.

I am currently building a cigar-smoking room in my house.

I plan to install a couple of exhaust fans with the capacity to remove the entire room's air volume x25 times per hour. The fans will work on negative pressure (the only air intake into the room is from a narrow shaft below the entry door). 

In addition to clearing the smoke with the exhaust fans, I would like to install a HEPA carbon filter air purifying unit which will remove any residual smoke/odor after the smoking session is done.

I am familiar with free-standing HEPA air purifying units, such as RabbitAir. However, I am interested in a unit that can be installed in a concealed manner so it is not visible in the room.

The best location is to place it on top/outside of the wall-high (humidor) cabinet, next to the AC unit and the exhaust vents duct and pipes. The cabinet goes across an entire wall and is finished with a fan/AC grill from its top to the ceiling. 

There is plenty of space to add the HEPA filter unit, however, I am not familiar with HEPA air purifiers that are designed for such an installation.

I would greatly appreciate your advice about HEPA air purifiers that are designed to be installed in concealed/ hidden manner and in particular that are suitable for installation behind an AC grill.

Thank you!

[Bagman]

If smell is your concern, an ozone generator is what you want.  It is small and will take up no room.  It will remove all smell and costs around 70 bucks.

I run a rabbit air that clears out the smoke.  When I'm done, I close up the room, fire up the ozone generator for about an hour.  When I come back, the room smells nice and clean.

 

[hawkeye5050]

12 hours ago, fuhrert said:

The best location is to place it on top/outside of the wall-high (humidor) cabinet

 

4 hours ago, Monterey said:

an ozone generator is what you want

 

Don't think an ozone generator is something you want near your humidor. 

If the air exchanger is functioning as well as 25x an hour you could see how that works out. The post smoke smell will come from the residue on the materials in the room. Is the floor tile or shag carpet? Is the chair leather or cotton fabric?  Pick things easy to clean smoke and ash from the surface.

[Bagman]

19 hours ago, hawkeye5050 said:

Don't think an ozone generator is something you want near your humidor.

There is no impact to your humidor, I've been doing this for a long time without issue.  This is a common technique used by many smokers. 

Further, he didn't mention this would be in his humidor room.  It is in  his smoking room. 

Lastly, there would be much more harm to the cigars from stale cigar smoke then from an ozone generator if you stored cigars in your smoking room.  If you had cigars in your smoking room, the ozone generator is even more important.

[hawkeye5050]

Is this the kind of or similar to the Ozone Generator you are referring to? Want to make sure I am thinking of what you mean.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D8MC68M

[helix]

Be careful and aware of those things.

The EPA has denounced these devices and cites several scientific studies showing they can be harmful to health and ineffective at removing airborne contaminants. That is why no federal agencies have approved ozone generators for use in occupied spaces.

[Bagman]

3 hours ago, helix said:

Be careful and aware of those things.

The EPA has denounced these devices and cites several scientific studies showing they can be harmful to health and ineffective at removing airborne contaminants. That is why no federal agencies have approved ozone generators for use in occupied spaces.

As mentioned previously, removing airborne contaminates has already been done.  In the OP's way, it is thru vents, for me, it is a rabitair filter.  The SOLE point, as mentioned, was to ONLY remove the smell.  It requires common sense to use and I don't need the federal government telling me what to do.  If I did, I wouldn't be smoking cigars!    But yes, you must air it out.  Given that this guy has a vent system, he could flush the air out in under a minute.

4 hours ago, hawkeye5050 said:

Is this the kind of or similar to the Ozone Generator you are referring to? Want to make sure I am thinking of what you mean.

Yes, but that is overkill for most.  Depends on the room size.    This is mine.

https://www.amazon.com/Airthereal-MA5000-Commercial-Generator-Deodorizer/dp/B0795P2674/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2RR0C1HM16MWI&keywords=ozone%2Bgenerator&qid=1672610599&s=home-garden&sprefix=ozone%2Bgenerator%2Cgarden%2C152&sr=1-5&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.18630bbb-fcbb-42f8-9767-857e17e03685&th=1