Cohiba Vs. Cohiba: Latest Ruling Issued In Cuba’s Favor

[El Presidente]

 

Cohiba Vs. Cohiba: Latest Ruling Issued In Cuba’s Favor

 

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[cigcars]

   *is this a joke?  WHO would EVER give some kind of credence to the Cohiba Red Dot???  Yeah I tried it when it first came out in the mid to late '90's.  Like I said, is this a joke?

[Chas.Alpha]

9 minutes ago, cigcars said:

   *is this a joke?  WHO would EVER give some kind of credence to the Cohiba Red Dot???  Yeah I tried it when it first came out in the mid to late '90's.  Like I said, is this a joke?

They sell the red dots in gas stations around here...🙄

[Nevrknow]

15 hours ago, Chas.Alpha said:

They sell the red dots in gas stations around here...🙄

I saw Cohiba Rounds in TN. Asked the shopkeeper what in the actual f.. he  just shrugged it off.

[BrightonCorgi]

Non Cuban Partagas and Upmann both made top quality cigars; the former for several decades.  Why hasn't this similar suit gone after all infringing trademarks?  Partagas NC is hard to tell from the Cuban from box and bands sitting in a retail humidor.  Similarly for Montecristo.  At least that Cohiba is not trying to mimic our Cohiba outside of name and spirit.

[Bijan]

12 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

Non Cuban Partagas and Upmann both made top quality cigars; the former for several decades.  Why hasn't this similar suit gone after all infringing trademarks? 

Those aren't really infringing. Those brands/manufacturers own US trademarks and Cuba owns trademarks (for the same brand) for everywhere else.

Fun fact one of the NC companies used to own the Canadian trademark for Punch and you couldn't buy Cuban Punch cigars in Canada until recently.

Edit: obviously with the US embargo in place there's no point for Cuba to fight a US only trademark.

[MrBirdman]

14 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

Non Cuban Partagas and Upmann both made top quality cigars; the former for several decades.  Why hasn't this similar suit gone after all infringing trademarks?  Partagas NC is hard to tell from the Cuban from box and bands sitting in a retail humidor.  Similarly for Montecristo.  At least that Cohiba is not trying to mimic our Cohiba outside of name and spirit.

I think that US law explicitly recognizes the claims of the original brand owners prior to nationalization. Cohiba was created post-revolution. 

[BrightonCorgi]

7 hours ago, Bijan said:

Fun fact one of the NC companies used to own the Canadian trademark for Punch and you couldn't buy Cuban Punch cigars in Canada until recently.

When did that start?

[Bijan]

6 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

When did that start?

When did the US/Canadian trademarks start? I think after the revolution, embargo and the Cuban government's nationalization of the Cuban cigar industry. The former owners set up shop and/or sold their old brands to established NC producers. But that mainly was recognized in the US, as CCs continued to be sold everywhere else.

I don't know the specifics of Punch in Canada. I only know that one of those big NC producers had the trademark for US and Canada for Punch. (I vaguely remember that they may have beat Cuba in registering or renewing the trademark).

[BrightonCorgi]

2 hours ago, Bijan said:

When did the US/Canadian trademarks start? I think after the revolution, embargo and the Cuban government's nationalization of the Cuban cigar industry. The former owners set up shop and/or sold their old brands to established NC producers. But that mainly was recognized in the US, as CCs continued to be sold everywhere else.

I don't know the specifics of Punch in Canada. I only know that one of those big NC producers had the trademark for US and Canada for Punch. (I vaguely remember that they may have beat Cuba in registering or renewing the trademark).

I meant when did Punch start being sold in Canada?  I know they had not been for as long as I can remember.  I usually bring a few Punch if going to Canada; just for the novelty. 

[Bijan]

1 hour ago, BrightonCorgi said:

I meant when did Punch start being sold in Canada?  I know they had not been for as long as I can remember.  I usually bring a few Punch if going to Canada; just for the novelty. 

I have seen then in B&Ms after COVID. It might just be the stores using grey market suppliers due to crazy supply these days.