What is "quiet quitting" to you?

[El Presidente]

It is the new buzz phrase as the western world continues its seemingly irriversable charge toward either "work nirvana" or "financial armageddon"  

So, not going the "extra yard" is now ok?

Are there enough jobs in the public service to employ all of these people?  God forbid they work in the private sector and unemploynent rates commence to rise. 

 

[NSXCIGAR]

Sounds like not doing your job and hoping you don't get fired. 

[HarveyBoulevard]

I always think of it as an "Irish Goodbye" but I don't think that is correct.  I am renowned for my Irish Goodbye...

I am curious to find out what this term means if it is not just walking out the door and not coming back.  That would be a quiet quitting if logic had anything to do with it...which it likely does not...

[fisherclive]

From what I understand, it's just doing the bare minimum. Not taking any initiative, it's not my job mentality 

[Nevrknow]

Extra yard. You’re funny. I can barely get people to show up, and then get less than a days work. Between that and losing them at instant $30,000 + a year raises. Can’t rightly blame the ship jumpers. The lazies is a different story.

[Chibearsv]

6 minutes ago, fisherclive said:

From what I understand, it's just doing the bare minimum. Not taking any initiative, it's not my job mentality 

I think you’re simply describing the work ethic of the new generation. Quiet quitting is when they work on their LinkedIn profile, while on the job, in hopes of getting a new job or getting fired and then applying for benefits while they seek new employment.  

[Silverstix]

Someone who wants out but doesn’t have the stones or doesn’t give enough of a damn to actually quit….so they basically tank it and could care less about getting fired since that’s the goal


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[Corylax18]

13 minutes ago, Chibearsv said:

I think you’re simply describing the work ethic of the new generation.

Two people on my team are in their mid 50's and they're horrible at their jobs, so bad its hard to fathom how they still have jobs, its been going on for years. Well before the pandemic. My boss(also mid 50s) doesn't have the stones to fix the problem, so he's just let the team moral steadily degrade for the last 3 years. 

Myself and 2 other Millennials finally had our Come to Jesus with our Boss's boss about fixing the problem and stopping the bleeding. There are terrible and wonderful employees in any demographic you can imagine. 

[Bijan]

51 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

Are there enough jobs in the public service to employ all of these people?

A boatload of jobs have been created in the public sector in Canada over the last 2 years. Unemployment is low but almost all the job growth has been in the public sector.

51 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

God forbid they work in the private sector and unemploynent rates commence to rise. 

Interest rates are being raised at an incredibly fast rate here. And so that's going to be sooner rather than later.

[Vetteman]

I don't interpret it as doing the bare minimum unless the definition of that is limited to working the hours you're paid for. But rather not reading/composing emails, making phone calls, computer work, etc. at night or on weekends. I don't see anyone calling it "quiet firing" when the employer isn't throwing extra $$ in the paycheck every week.

 

[Corylax18]

6 hours ago, El Presidente said:

It is the new buzz phrase as the western world continues its seemingly irriversable charge toward either "work nirvana" or "financial armageddon"  

So, not going the "extra yard" is now ok?

Are there enough jobs in the public service to employ all of these people?  God forbid they work in the private sector and unemploynent rates commence to rise. 

 

This doesn't seem like anything new to me. I've been unfortunate enough to run into this, in some form, at every job I've ever worked, going back almost 25 years now. It's one thing when you're in your teens, maybe early 20s, but it seems like the age limit for learning how to consistently motivate ones self has skyrocketed. 

I've worked almost exclusively in Communications related construction during my life. I've joked with people for years that I "Babysit Adults" for a living. Its getting less and less funny every year. 

Half or more of the middle managers on the planet (myself included) shouldn't have jobs and wouldn't have jobs if adults could be trusted to do what was expected of them, when it was expected of them. I'll have a job for the rest of my life I want it though, I have no concerns that people will all of a sudden become responsible grown ups, or even start trending in that direction. 

[Bijan]

1 hour ago, El Presidente said:

It is the new buzz phrase as the western world continues its seemingly irriversable charge toward either "work nirvana" or "financial armageddon"  

So, not going the "extra yard" is now ok?

To me these are people who were too afraid to "look" lazy in the office when others were watching and are now working from home where they feel out of sight, out of mind.

[El Presidente]

5 hours ago, Vetteman said:

I don't interpret it as doing the bare minimum unless the definition of that is limited to working the hours you're paid for. But rather not reading/composing emails, making phone calls, computer work, etc. at night or on weekends. I don't see anyone calling it "quiet firing" when the employer isn't throwing extra $$ in the paycheck every week.

I think employers are partly to blame by tolerating phones and social media at work, tolerating half arsed work, RUOK days etal. 

It cuts both ways. 

You have dickhead employers. The employee should move. 

You have a lazy softcock employee. They are largely a protected species in this country. You need a crowbar to get rid of them. 

[Bijan]

4 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

You have a lazy softcock employee. They are largely a protected species in this country. You need a crowbar to get rid of them. 

Not in North America, just show them the door. Usually boss doesn't want to have an awkward conversation or afraid of hurting morale.

This work from home is going to cut the other way when things get tough and cuts need to be made, and people get layed off over zoom call, IM or email.

[Fuzz]

I had a co-worker who seemed to invent quiet quitting well before it became a thing!

She would come in to work in the morning, do just enough of her work to remain occupied and not look like she had any spare time, take her morning tea exactly at 10:30am (regardless of anything going on), have lunch on the dot at 12pm, and then would have an reminder pop up on her screen at 3:50pm to tell her she needs to finish and go home in 10 minutes.... and she would leave at 4pm without fail. She would even reject meeting invites if it conflicted with her schedule.

Her performance reviews were dead average, never took any initiative or proactive in fixing something before it became a problem. Just did that day's work and nothing else, no prep for later in the week. Then she wondered why she always got a much smaller bonus than I did, when the yearly reviews were completed.

[Chas.Alpha]

I have a feeling that @Elpresidente is seeking some support from us FOH for something he said to @WarriorPrincess. Normally I'd have your back, Rob, but not this time...😳

[El Presidente]

9 minutes ago, Chas.Alpha said:

I have a feeling that @Elpresidente is seeking some support from us FOH for something he said to @WarriorPrincess. Normally I'd have your back, Rob, but not this time...😳

WHOA! 😨

WP leads a sensational team of exploited professionals 

[Chas.Alpha]

I always tell my crew "If you think I have you here because I'm lonely or bored, you are mistaken." If I have to babysit, I'd rather just do it myself...

[chris12381]

From what I've been told and read, quiet quitting isn't a new thing.  It's been around FOREVER.  Someone on Tiktok or the 'gram decided to give it a name. 

One needs to think of "quiet quitting" as an employee who does their job requirements and will do what is asked by superiors if it's a job related task.  However, taking the initiative to do things you aren't being rewarded or compensated for such as social events after work or taking overtime when you don't want it...that's out the window for a quiet quitter.  There's nothing new about this type of person.  We all know them.  We've all worked with them. 

I think what is new is that if you're a Boomber, Gen Xer (like myself) or even many Millennials, the idea of quiet quitting, at the beginning of a career when you're in your 20s and 30s (or ever for that matter) is a recipe for never progressing and that's a horrific thought to these generations.  Gen Z doesn't seem to care about that and is even OK with a "career" that doesn't progress so long as they're living their best lives outside of work.  

[BoliDan]

It has always been around for sure. But now it is being advertised over social media as a legit philosophy and gaining popularity by people in massive numbers. 

[MattxG]

4 hours ago, El Presidente said:

So, not going the "extra yard" is now ok?

In some instances, yes.  I'm trying to figure out the best way to phrase this without prejudicing anyone.  Some people feel that their compensation doesn't justify going above and beyond, salaries not keeping up with inflation.  Maybe they feel unappreciated after having gone the extra mile before.  Sometimes they aren't emotionally invested anymore.  So, they just do their 40 hours a week with medium effort, and don't think about work beyond that.  If they get terminated they won't be heart broken.  They probably should've started looking for a new job before this point, but I can understand the appeal of the security of coasting where you're at for abit before leaving.  

[jakebarnes]

Quiet quitting is a dumb buzz word most employers use to paint workers who do their job but dont also assume the jobs of the 2 mid level people the company just fired for no title and pay raise. Those workers are usually then labeled ungrateful and "lacking initiative" by the senior management that typically have no idea how their department (and possibly company) actually works because they've relied on the work of others to make themselves look good (but then laid off to ensure their bonus was safe).

I'd argue the quiet quitting buck stops with inept management that makes no effort to understand their team and adapt those dynamics to best position those teams for success. Rather, it's a lot of trying to force arcane square peg management tactics into an evolving Era.

[Hammer Smokin']

quiet quitters make it easier for those who want to move up the corporate ladder. 

it's the best of both worlds. those who want to do the minimum can, and those who want to improve can do so easier. 

win win situation.

[RedLantern]

43 minutes ago, BoliDan said:

It has always been around for sure. But now it is being advertised over social media as a legit philosophy and gaining popularity by people in massive numbers. 

Seems a pretty natural evolution of late-stage capitalism. 

[La_Tigre]

Work to Rule is all it is… nothing new here. Think union defining work and union member does exactly the task and nothing above for free. As an ‘above and beyond’ for many years in life, it can be assured the only gain you will receive from this is to be handed more work while the sucks are coddled.

All for it, it’s time for the corporations to stop making record profits and squeezing the ground level to husks.