Blakes Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 1 hour ago, vladdraq said: that's my point @HawkI84, regular production will sell at new prices, even people thinking they got them for "cheap". Absolutely Cohiba and the rest of the crazy bunch will sell very slow, compared to before. Whilst the production numbers are so low, I'm sure they will, for a time. However, prior to the issues in supply stuff from the same venders would have rolling discounts and monthly sales on top of the old prices and still you would regularly see boxes with 2-3 years of age on them. Be in no doubt many feel Habanos have stuck two fingers up at the 'average joe' CC smokers, in doing so they are exploring other, NC options for the first time. I'm one. Like there is only so many people willing to pay $1500 on a box of CORO, there is only so many that will spend $500 on a box of D4's. Habanos is holding the door wide open to NC competition at the same time pricing out a new generation of average-joe smokers from ever getting into CC's. As production increases, sooner or later there will be a correction.
DaBoot Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 13 hours ago, dageshi said:. What I wonder is, if they lose much of their market share to NCs on the lower end, which seems inevitable to me at this point? How much of their offering no longer makes sense? Do we see a mass culling vitolas that simply make no sense in this new world? I think so, also adding to this is production of the related items. Bands, boxes , etc. why have 2000 line items in your portfolio when it can be 800 line items for the time being. Also think they will focus on higher revenue sticks. Premium, regional cigars with a higher profit margin,
vladdraq Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 Market share they are losing anyways, due to the lack of production.
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