Chas.Alpha Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 hours ago, jpozniak said: Let us know what the Double Corona supply looks Like. My crew didn’t seem to see many… 😵 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitmo Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 13 hours ago, jpozniak said: First hand : Payment info is correct, they will only accept card payment in LCDHs and everything charged in USD on your non US card or the special card available from the cadeca. Have not been to Havana yet, will be there tomorrow onwards and can update but resort LCDH is full of 22 stock which is interesting if Havana LCDHs are all old stock. Stock in general is very thin compared to my last visit in December. Prices: all correct as per the spreadsheet here, old 'YUL' pricing is defunct. It's rather odd seeing CoRo at almost 70USD etc here on the island 😵💫 If anybody has anything they want me to look out for or report back on, happy to do so. Otherwise will report what I see on the ground in Havana after I arrive and get some WiFi! I hope this helps somebody $700 USD for CoRo doesn’t sound so bad to me at the moment, the cheapest legit source here in Canada is charging $950 CAD for a Box of PSD4. 😬 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomasito Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 15 hours ago, Chitmo said: $700 USD for CoRo doesn’t sound so bad to me at the moment, the cheapest legit source here in Canada is charging $950 CAD for a Box of PSD4. 😬 $70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas.Alpha Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Tomasito said: $70 Per stick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NSXCIGAR Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 Pricing is exactly as published in the new list. There was a box here and there with the old pricing. Nothing major. Like a QdO 50 in 10s. Those will almost certainly be gone by this week. Singles can be a little more flexible. If they know you in the LCDH you might get some play. I was told no westerners are buying Cohiba & Trini. All Asian and they are paying the high prices just due to shortages. The price is no concern buyers have to come to Cuba and pay $1,578 for CoRo. Trini Coloniales and Reyes are starting to pile up. RyJ Linea Oro and Monte 1935 also starting to accumulate down here. BBF, BRC, Punch Punch, Regios very hard to find right now. SC Prado, Distinguidos, Connie B, RAS, HU Connies can be found very sparingly. Dip 2, SPB, SPNP, Hoyo Elegantes are definitely around. ERDM CS, Lusi (and all DCs), Party Maduros, Presidentes, Punch 48, QdO 54, Unicos, Boli Libertadores, HU Noellas, Torreon nowhere. The usual rarities are also nowhere to be found. 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pg868 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 12:01 PM, NSXCIGAR said: Pricing is exactly as published in the new list. There was a box here and there with the old pricing. Nothing major. Like a QdO 50 in 10s. Those will almost certainly be gone by this week. Singles can be a little more flexible. If they know you in the LCDH you might get some play. I was told no westerners are buying Cohiba & Trini. All Asian and they are paying the high prices just due to shortages. The price is no concern buyers have to come to Cuba and pay $1,578 for CoRo. Trini Coloniales and Reyes are starting to pile up. RyJ Linea Oro and Monte 1935 also starting to accumulate down here. BBF, BRC, Punch Punch, Regios very hard to find right now. SC Prado, Distinguidos, Connie B, RAS, HU Connies can be found very sparingly. Dip 2, SPB, SPNP, Hoyo Elegantes are definitely around. ERDM CS, Lusi (and all DCs), Party Maduros, Presidentes, Punch 48, QdO 54, Unicos, Boli Libertadores, HU Noellas, Torreon nowhere. The usual rarities are also nowhere to be found. Thanks!! Going in 3 weeks today. Let me know if you have any helpful tips. Varadero and Havana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigkahuna Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 6:01 AM, NSXCIGAR said: I was told no westerners are buying Cohiba & Trini. All Asian and they are paying the high prices just due to shortages. The price is no concern buyers have to come to Cuba and pay $1,578 for CoRo. Not to be blunt but not Asians rather just Chinese. Japanese and Koreans or Vietnamese are not going to Cuba. It’s the Chinese. Period. Travel to Paris and go into a boutique. Westerners aren’t buying 10k Hermes bags. But the lines of Chinese will gladly do so. In a country of communism, the conspicuous consumption of material goods is the only meaning of life to them. I’m always amazed at how much incredible amounts of disposable income is used for things like this in a restricted country of a billion plus people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Bigkahuna said: Not to be blunt but not Asians rather just Chinese. Japanese and Koreans or Vietnamese are not going to Cuba. It’s the Chinese. Period. Travel to Paris and go into a boutique. Westerners aren’t buying 10k Hermes bags. But the lines of Chinese will gladly do so. In a country of communism, the conspicuous consumption of material goods is the only meaning of life to them. I’m always amazed at how much incredible amounts of disposable income is used for things like this in a restricted country of a billion plus people. I have no doubt it is mainly Chinese but I was told Asian and I didn't see any personally so I wanted to be as broad as possible. When you have a very small percentage of party elites controlling 90% of the wealth there's nothing else to do with it. You don't get reinvestment and China isn't exactly and R & D hub. They blow it on cocaine and hookers. But in China a "small percentage" is about a few million people, and a few million people can consume a lot of cigars and Kobe beef and Louis XIII cognac and Hermes bags. Very interesting how gratuitous consumption is much more of a trait of the communist elites than the capitalists they try and assign that behavior to. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladdraq Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 it's a statement, they need "validation". Westerners rich people are already through that phase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyHumpder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 honestly, i like cohiba. but if habanos sa prices everything else normally and jacks up the price of cohiba so they can rob the asian markets blind that's fine by me. i can live without cohiba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 7:52 PM, BettyHumpder said: honestly, i like cohiba. but if habanos sa prices everything else normally and jacks up the price of cohiba so they can rob the asian markets blind that's fine by me. i can live without cohiba. I wasn't interested in Exquisitos and Siglo I at $250 knowing full well the price was about to double in days. I could have bought 20 or 30 Lanceros and Esplendidos at $25 each just days before the price hikes. I bought maybe 5. I was much happier buying more $8 Famosos and Connie 1 than $25 CoLa (at the time). I haven't found Cohiba's price was justified since around 2010 when I could get Exquisitos for $165/box and CoRo was $300. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyHumpder Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 37 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said: I wasn't interested in Exquisitos and Siglo I at $250 knowing full well the price was about to double in days. I could have bought 20 or 30 Lanceros and Esplendidos at $25 each just days before the price hikes. I bought maybe 5. I was much happier buying more $8 Famosos and Connie 1 than $25 CoLa (at the time). I haven't found Cohiba's price was justified since around 2010 when I could get Exquisitos for $165/box and CoRo was $300. i bought coros and sig iii in 2021 for near msrp. the coros have been plugged. sig iii are quality. the only cohiba i’d spring for would be medio siglo and genios. both are incredible. but nowhere near today’s price point. there’s just so many other cigars i’d rather buy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangolf18 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Are regular folks still buying Trinidad and Cohiba at current prices? It seems like inventory is just going to continue piling up at vendors. I’ve never seen any premium/luxury product in any other vertical/industry jacked up 200-300% essentially overnight. Don’t know what the end game is for Habanos. Guess they can always end up lowering prices albeit it’ll piss off vendors that stocked up inventory at new wholesale prices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunettesman Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 hours ago, dangolf18 said: Are regular folks still buying Trinidad and Cohiba at current prices? It seems like inventory is just going to continue piling up at vendors. I’ve never seen any premium/luxury product in any other vertical/industry jacked up 200-300% essentially overnight. Don’t know what the end game is for Habanos. Guess they can always end up lowering prices albeit it’ll piss off vendors that stocked up inventory at new wholesale prices. Well. I can't answer your question. However, i went at LCDH at Basel Switzerland 2 weeks ago. Piles and piles of Cohiba (espis and such) and Trinidad (everything you wanted). The rest? Almost nothing, scored a box of HUHC... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 15 hours ago, dangolf18 said: Are regular folks still buying Trinidad and Cohiba at current prices? It seems like inventory is just going to continue piling up at vendors. I’ve never seen any premium/luxury product in any other vertical/industry jacked up 200-300% essentially overnight. Don’t know what the end game is for Habanos. Guess they can always end up lowering prices albeit it’ll piss off vendors that stocked up inventory at new wholesale prices. If by regular folks you mean westerners I don't know but there is very little supply in the west. Siglo IV + supply is barely satiating the wealthy in both the east and west and not even close in China. The only place China can get Cohiba right now is Cuba. Trini, it's going to be a disaster. I saw every Trini available except Fundys and plenty of it. Coloniales are piling up fastest. As for Cohiba as long as supply remains this low the pricing makes sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Gracias Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 7:52 PM, BettyHumpder said: honestly, i like cohiba. but if habanos sa prices everything else normally and jacks up the price of cohiba so they can rob the asian markets blind that's fine by me. i can live without cohiba. ok stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladdraq Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 11 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Trini, it's going to be a disaster. I saw every Trini available except Fundys and plenty of it. Coloniales are piling up fastest. Doesn't sounds like a great strategy to triple the prices and flooding the market right after. They have to make the product desirable and scarce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 hours ago, vladdraq said: Doesn't sounds like a great strategy to triple the prices and flooding the market right after. They have to make the product desirable and scarce. The idea that Trini and Cohiba were on the same level was just bizarre. There isn't anything that would have indicated that was a good idea. I think that they could possibly have had some play with Fundys but overall Trini is not even the same product as Cohiba. Just 18 months ago Coloniales were $9 each (where they had been for a decade). Now they're $40? I don't think there's even a Cohiba that had such an increase. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakes Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 2 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: The idea that Trini and Cohiba were on the same level was just bizarre. There isn't anything that would have indicated that was a good idea. I think that they could possibly have had some play with Fundys but overall Trini is not even the same product as Cohiba. Just 18 months ago Coloniales were $9 each (where they had been for a decade). Now they're $40? I don't think there's even a Cohiba that had such an increase. The only reason I can think of is that they thought people may simply switch from Cohiba to Trini when they jacked up Cohiba prices, so they just jacked up Trini's too. 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Blakes said: The only reason I can think of is that they thought people may simply switch from Cohiba to Trini when they jacked up Cohiba prices, so they just jacked up Trini's too. 😂 The fact that they also jacked up Monte 1935 and RyJ LdO tells me they're trying to create luxury and that rarely works. Both are now piling up in Cuba which should surprise no one. In Apr and June they couldn't keep LdO in stock. Last week I saw shops with stacks and stacks of La Trova. That would never have been the case a year ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladdraq Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Do they have enough leaves for their premium lines? if hey use inferior leaves for making the premium lines/money it's more a scam than a marketing strategy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monterey Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 13 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: The fact that they also jacked up Monte 1935 and RyJ LdO tells me they're trying to create luxury and that rarely works. Both are now piling up in Cuba which should surprise no one. In Apr and June they couldn't keep LdO in stock. Last week I saw shops with stacks and stacks of La Trova. That would never have been the case a year ago. What is the La Trova price? It isn't on the list for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Monterey said: What is the La Trova price? It isn't on the list for some reason. I didn't even look. Too scared. You're right, it's not on the list. Don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: I didn't even look. Too scared. You're right, it's not on the list. Don't know why. Dearest Trini in the pricing scheme. By far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helix Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Trinidad La Trova $2,167.24 in canada for 12. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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