Deep Dive: Ramon Allones Superiores

[El Presidente]

Ramon Allones Superiores 

It was my cigar of last week. Always good but these were another level and back to back experiences to boot. 

Let's talk Ramon Allones Superiores 

• Do you like  Ramon Allones Superiores?
• Where does it stand in the ranks of thers in the same/similar vitola?
• Have you noticed a blend/flavour/body change over the years? If so, approximately when?
• How long does it take you to smoke a Ramon Allones Superiores?
• Do the poll!

Ramon Allones Superiores! 

[cgoodrich]

I’m definitely the outlier so far. I love me some RASS and RASCC, but didn’t see that in the Superiores at all. None of that floral/raisiny/stewed fruit I love. Didn’t have the strength or body either. Bought a box off BR late 2020, MOR (or MUR) OCT-12 and still have 3 left. I’m hoping some more time might improve them, but being 8-9 yrs old when I smoked perhaps they are past their prime.

[Sir Diggamus]

I LOVE the RA Superiores. I fell in love with RA early in my cigar journey and wished for a release in a Corona Gorda from the time I started smoking them. For me the fruit profile in the Superiores is a bit more cherry/berry instead of stewed fruit, but I still get the coffee and cocoa notes I pick up in RASS and RASCC. 

Smoking time on these is usually 60-90 minutes depending on the situation. 

I think for the size this ranks with the Mag 46 and Cohiba Siglo IV as my three favorite Corona Gordas. 

[GolfT3]

One of my first memorable CCs was a RAS years ago, still love them. Great size, rich smoke. They have always had a well balanced profile for me with cocao, coffee, and a raisin like fruit note. Smoking time around 90mns. Also, great young and even better aged.

[PuroDiario]

Big fan of RASS and in regular rotation for ever, RASCC occasionally, Gigantes some times. The Superiores for me has been hit or miss with many more misses than hits

[jakebarnes]

I 100% get these. That said, I think they really need age first before you can really "get them." I think a lot of us are used to RASS and RASCC being so good out of the box that it's hard to fathom that the Superiores might need a little time. That's not to say they aren't good young, I just think they are one of those "this is a different cigar with the level it it" types of cigars. 

[cnov]

10 minutes ago, jakebarnes said:

I 100% get these. That said, I think they really need age first before you can really "get them." I think a lot of us are used to RASS and RASCC being so good out of the box that it's hard to fathom that the Superiores might need a little time. That's not to say they aren't good young, I just think they are one of those "this is a different cigar with the level it it" types of cigars. 

What's been a good rule of thumb on aging them in your experience?

Are they anything like the Club Allones?

[Hammer Smokin']

I don't really like RASS and especially don't like RASCC. 

 

So it is not surprising I do like RAS. 

 

A much nicer, refined cigar. Don't need a full stomach before lighting one up. 

 

A very enjoyable cigar. 

[jakebarnes]

 

38 minutes ago, cnov said:

What's been a good rule of thumb on aging them in your experience?

Are they anything like the Club Allones?

It's a limited experience, but I have really liked them with 3 years right now. 3 into a box and VERY happy with where the most recent one was (3 years, 2 mo). It felt like the flavors amplified, especially in the leather/fruit with a touch of creaminess becoming part of it. It's making me think I should see where they go at 5--I recall reading a decent amount about how good they can be around 5 which is what I was shooting for with the other 2 boxes. 

[Hammer Smokin']

I found the leather flavour started to dissipate as they aged, with more fruit / creamy flavours coming out. 

but the RAS isn't nearly as leather / earth / fungal tasting as the RASS and/or RASCC

[KCCubano]

25 minutes ago, jakebarnes said:

 

It's a limited experience, but I have really liked them with 3 years right now. 3 into a box and VERY happy with where the most recent one was (3 years, 2 mo). It felt like the flavors amplified, especially in the leather/fruit with a touch of creaminess becoming part of it. It's making me think I should see where they go at 5--I recall reading a decent amount about how good they can be around 5 which is what I was shooting for with the other 2 boxes. 

I have 4 boxes of MSU JUL 19. Have not had one in 2 yrs. Very muted flavors. Approaching 3 yrs now so will fire one up this weekend

[JY0]

My favorite cigar. I enjoyed one almost every evening until they disappeared. On my first trip to Cuba I bought 10 boxes for less than $60 a box.  I though having 6-8 boxes on hand was enough…nope. 

[KCCubano]

On 6/7/2022 at 3:31 PM, jakebarnes said:

I 100% get these. That said, I think they really need age first before you can really "get them." I think a lot of us are used to RASS and RASCC being so good out of the box that it's hard to fathom that the Superiores might need a little time. That's not to say they aren't good young, I just think they are one of those "this is a different cigar with the level it it" types of cigars. 

Just fired up my MSU JUL 19s. Been storing in old SS2 Cab. Much better than last one 2 yrs ago but for my palate could use another yr of development. Flavors a tad muted

[NSXCIGAR]

This one seems to be a love or hate cigar. I've had many that were lousy. Had many that were quite good. Never had one that was great. The best ones I had were early examples around 13-14. 

Consistency year to year seems to be a bit of an issue with these. 

For me not a cigar I buy or is in my rotation.

[Li Bai]

I like this cigar but I've smoked too few of them to make it a regular smoke (no LCDH in France and it's illegal to buy online).

On 7/6/2022 at 1:22 PM, NSXCIGAR said:

Consistency year to year seems to be a bit of an issue with these. 

In the box I had, the weights went from 9g to 14g so I guess inconsistency might be an issue (as said before).

But the cigars have all been pretty decent imho.

[NSXCIGAR]

33 minutes ago, Li Bai said:

I like this cigar but i've smoked too few of them to make it a regular smoke (no LCDH in France and it's illegal to buy online).

In the box i had, the weights went from 9g to 14g so i guess inconsistency might be an issue (as said before).

But the cigars have all been pretty decent imho.

I haven't tried any recent production but world price has really jumped up on these. A $23 Corona Gorda is a tough one to swallow and this one in particular. Personally I don't think it's any better than Punch Punch or JL S1. To me at least through 2020 production they've never really matched the quality of the original run in 2013-14 which was quite good. 

[Li Bai]

37 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said:

Personally I don't think it's any better than Punch Punch or JL S1.

Totally agree !

And I enjoy both enough to not feel the itch for those Superiores 🤗