What are we going to do about Cohiba. Is this situation Cohiba worthy?

[Nocoins]

The price/enjoyment ratio is my hang up. In the last two weeks, I smoked five 6x38 cigars.  One was a 2018 CCE, and I enjoyed it the least. Even accounting for the hits and misses in a box, at ordinary 2022 prices, it's tough to justify continued purchases of cigars that I'm not enjoying as much as others. At the new reported price levels, it's not even a consideration.  

 

[joeypots]

I see a lot of 5 and 10 count packaging on the horizon. 

[juri]

I thought the price creep over the last couple of years due to Covid would start to stabilize once things started to get back to normal boy was I wrong

I’ve never been a special occasions cigar person life is short smoke what you like, also nothing worse then smoking a cigar you were saving and it turns out to be a dud witch puts a huge damper on your special occasion 

honestly cohiba makes some amazing cigar’s but imo  they are not even the best cigar coming out of Cuba. Depends on the price but I’m mostly done with cohiba I just hope this doesn’t drive the rest of Cuban cigars out of my price range

[TBird55]

58 minutes ago, joeypots said:

I see a lot of 5 and 10 count packaging on the horizon. 

I figured this pricing was  coming when the 50 cabs started to dissappear and fancy boxes started to come on the scene, along with 5 and 10 boxes. While prices are much higher than we are used too, Rob and his staff have maintained a level of quality, supply, and pricing that we all should be thankful for. All you have to do is look at the LCDH'S and grey market vendors.

[jakebarnes]

2 hours ago, Kaptain Karl said:

I think we’re all assuming this price hike is going to work. We’re all assuming Cuba is going to somehow absorb a massive amount of their cigar work force leaving during the pandemic. We’re assuming that a globe wide high interest rate recession isn’t going to squash consumption at these prices. I’m not sharing in the optimism that this CC world with HSA and state ran production is going to continue. 
 

Im sure there’ll be an initial surge on Cohiba, but I don’t see this sustaining itself over the next 5 years. Frankly at this pace I hope it all crashes and El Prez is able to buy quality product off the island and blend Cuban tobacco with Hamlet and sell to us 🥰

Given the economic climate right now, I feel like your post may be spot on. I think we're going to see a surge due to scarcity, but there may be a flutter out of this level of demand as the downturn happens. Guess I am just thankful that I have some level of stock right now that I can just ride this out and pick out things that come along here that I want. 

[gojira]

I have enough Cohiba to smoke one a month for approximately the next 20 years. I'll be 72 then so that should have to do.

 

Edit: I just counted them on my spreadsheet and I'm good for 302 months. 🙃

[ChicagoRob]

I have enough Cohiba to smoke one a month for approximately the next 20 years. I'll be 72 then so that should have to do.
 
Edit: I just counted them on my spreadsheet and I'm good for 302 months. 

You want to adjust that to only being good for like 250 months?

[gojira]

20 minutes ago, ChicagoRob said:

You want to adjust that to only being good for like 250 months?

Nope, I just counted them and I have 302, so that comes to 302 months... 😉🧐

[HopeUgood]

On 5/10/2022 at 8:28 AM, MrBirdman said:

Exactly how I feel. I wouldn’t exactly say I was raised conservatively, but I was raised to be humble and eschew frequently wasting money on extravagances, especially if I’m not sharing them with others (which I can’t because none of my friends or family smoke cigars; in fact they all hate it). 

Being able to “afford” Cohiba doesn’t mean I have a limitless budget - extra money spent on cigars is money that comes out of wine or other pleasures than I CAN and do regularly get to share with others. Spending $60-$80 on a cigar feels selfish, especially when I don’t think it’s worth anywhere near that much. So this price hike makes those cigars less enjoyable for me, even if I acquired them at much lower prices.

I’ve taken this entire situation to reassess my spending on cigars in general, and spend more of my discretionary budget on building out my wine cellar. 

I thought I was the only one afflicted from the price hikes making cigars less enjoyable.  Even though I bought many of my boxes at much lower prices, I now look at some of them and feel almost some guilt in smoking them.  Like I was ok with burning a $10 bill or $20 here and there, but lighting up a $50 .... Cheers to those that have no need to think in this manner. Please tell me the secret to nirvana haha

[Chas.Alpha]

I do think the Cohiba line is pretty great, but in general if you offered me a CORO or a BRC, 9 of 10 I’d rather have the Boli.

[MrBirdman]

46 minutes ago, HopeUgood said:

Please tell me the secret to nirvana haha

If anyone reveals it to you please PM me 😉 !

[bates40]

Like my house in California I will sell my remaining (very few) boxes of Cohibas when the most recent adjustments to the market settle in for the highest profit possible. I prefer Trinis out of the 2 (Cohiba and Trini) but main smoke since day 1 has been Monte #4.

[Huckleberry]

I was only purchasing Siglo Is before anyway.  My Cohiba purchasing days are over.  Even if I won the lottery that I don't actually play, my money would be put toward a ranch in Wyoming or Montana.  I prefer catching trout and throwing them back to be caught again, over spending $100 plus for a rolled pile of dirty, dead leaves, regardless of which virgins thighs they were rolled from.

[CFCTerry]

For me it would be a great opportunity to switch budget and try some really nice NCs. At a time we all though Davidoff had crazy price tags, but now they seem to be well fairly priced.

[HopeUgood]

I feel like Im going to be that old guy that talks about when "he was your age a candy bar used to cost " $0.xx and CC were only blah blah price"

[MrBirdman]

12 minutes ago, HopeUgood said:

I feel like Im going to be that old guy that talks about when "he was your age a candy bar used to cost " $0.xx and CC were only blah blah price"

I already feel like I’m that guy and I’m only in my 30’s!

[Bijan]

I've got enough cigars to smoke 1 a day for 10 years. And in reality that'll likely last me 30+ years at my long term rate of smoking. And similar to @gojira I have enough Cohiba to have one a month for about that long.

I always thought Canadian anti tobacco laws would price me out sooner or later. So this isn't as much of a shock to me as to some.

I'll keep buying a bit here and there. But I guess I'll probably never smoke a Behike as they were too obnoxiously expensive before, and I don't want to think of them now.

[Fuzz]

You can always trade for a Behike. I mean, if you've got 30+ years worth of cigars, it's not like you don't have some to spare for a trade.

 

[GoodStix]

30+ years of cigars for a Behike?!!!  Oh man things are out of control 😉

[Edicion]

10 minutes ago, Fuzz said:

You can always trade for a Behike. I mean, if you've got 30+ years worth of cigars, it's not like you don't have some to spare for a trade.

 

I have found on a couple of occasions that the money value of BHKs is so high compared to the sticks to trade it's not worth it from an experience point of view.

What I mean is a single BHK 56 valued at $150-200 (actual purchasing price is not taken into account) trades for a box of 10 reasonably excellent cigars like a P2.

SO trading 1,5 hours vs 15 hours of bliss is simply not worth it. The situation get even more bizarre if trading for half a box (worth like 2 boxes 25 x Rio Seco) or a full box (worth 100 Mon 2s).

I am glad to have Behikes (smoked a 52 yesterday that was a 95-96) but I am not getting more unless I can buy at retail price. 

I guess it's all about perspective though...

[Fuzz]

It all depends on the person you're trading with. Some people do not see trades as needing to be completely equitable.

I've traded/swapped cigars with friends that in no way compare in value, and vice versa. It's not about the value, it's about the friendship.

Of course, trading with a stranger is completely different. Just comes down to how badly you want to try that elusive cigar.

[Bijan]

14 minutes ago, Fuzz said:

Just comes down to how badly you want to try that elusive cigar.

I did not want Behikes at $100. I might have tried them at $30-$50.

It's just not for me. I'd rather have most other Cohibas, so it would have to be a very generous trade, and even then it would be wasted on me.

[Chas.Alpha]

17 hours ago, Bijan said:

I did not want Behikes at $100. I might have tried them at $30-$50

I found TWO plexiglass top boxes of Behike on Reddit! I’ll gladly sell you a couple for $30-$50!!! 😬

[Carrie Nation]

All my Cohiba inventory is cataloged by decade, starting with the 80's. Of the last four decades, 2010-2019 overall has been the least consistent with this current decade starting out spotty. Things were fine up until 2013, but then in 2014 way too much Cohiba production was deferred to other factories. As a result, Cohiba is often indistinguishable from the other brands. That being said, I'm not paying Hong Kong, Shanghai, or Chung King prices for current production. Cohiba has barely been able to justify its prices for years, so I'll sleep fine never buying a Cohiba again. And that whole mentality of "but when you get the good ones, it's great" has really gotten old. No cigar smoker should ever be reduced to that. Especially at these inflated prices. 

 

[juri]

On 5/11/2022 at 5:13 PM, Chas.Alpha said:

I do think the Cohiba line is pretty great, but in general if you offered me a CORO or a BRC, 9 of 10 I’d rather have the Boli.

That’s one good thing about CC, there is no shortage of amazing robustos if ll you’re priced out of CORO there are plenty to take it’s place

D4

BRC

H2

JL2

RASS

RyJ shorts

The list goes on and on not it to mention the odd sized h uppman or monty ones