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Completely. Anyone suggesting otherwise is either unaware of the overwhelming data to support it, or is intentionally choosing to ignore it. Either way I just filter the nonsense out like we used to d

Right.  And the vaccines give you AIDS! Ahhhhh science is so stupid, just pray the virus away.  Vaccines don’t work, Polio was a myth, bunch of pansies whining about their legs is all.  I get mumps 3

Personally, I'm quite happy to be living in Australia where we have had an extremely low number of deaths from Covid. Sure, it has been quite painful and disruptive to be in lockdowns, but it is still

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6 hours ago, Foulhook said:

Slowly losing respect for Australia. What was once a great country. Every person I know here in the states that was vaccinated has also had covid. The 95% is crap. It’s down to about 47% now and that’s only two weeks after you had your second dose then it wanes quickly..The NIH got in bed with moderna before the virus was even released we are finding out. Go ahead and get your obedience jabs and in two months you’ll be officially unvaccinated again. Lather, rinse, repeat until the end of time. No virus that shares host with the wild has ever been eradicated by a vaccine in history and this one won’t either. Omicron my be our best bet. A variant that is highly transmissible but very mild symptoms... that’s the one you want to catch. 

I can’t believe what I see down in OZ.. seriously, covid concentration camps? What will we do if a real challenge ever happens? Everyone has become a soy boy liberal. Scared of a virus that even a 65 yo has a 99% chance of surviving? If the beaches at Normandy could speak. 🙄.. I can’t believe y’all smoke cigars! Don’t you know you have a greater chance of dying from smoking cigars than from covid? We need a tobacco vaccine if we are going to continue this madness! 

Unfortunately, I know two unvaccinated people that died from Delta this past summer.  Additionally, 1,100 people a day are currently dying from being unvaccinated, with half of those cases occurring in just MI, OH, PA, and NY (look how those states voted in the last election).

In a country blessed with choice and abundant vaccine supply, Darwin will continue to cull the herd for the non-believers.

YMMV

P.S. Not a soy boy liberal

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Wife got our names down for booster jabs this morning. Ireland just started boosters for over-50s today. It might take a week.

I looked into getting one or two of the Cuban shots while I was there, but it would have been a bit of hassle. Personally, I'd have taken all 4 of them mixed up in a cocktail shaker.  

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Boosterized last Thursday (Pfizer) with no real side effects to speak of.  The first two doses left me with some localized arm tenderness, but that's it.  The booster...almost nothing.  Also got the flu shot.  Also been vaccinated for diptheria, tetanus, polio, hepatitis B, measles, mumps and rubella.  

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16 hours ago, mprach024 said:

Breaks my heart, but I agree with you there

What country created these groundbreaking vaccines that saved their lives? Was it Canada?? 🤣🤣

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1 hour ago, porkchop said:

What country created these groundbreaking vaccines that saved their lives? Was it Canada?? 🤣🤣

Not sure why you quoted me with your statement.  I’m not from Canada, nobody was talking about Canada.  Just some random rebuttals of passed arguments I suppose?  

Well I disagree with you, tuna fish is NOT the chicken of the sea!

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9 minutes ago, mprach024 said:

Not sure why you quoted me with your statement.  I’m not from Canada, nobody was talking about Canada.  Just some random rebuttals of passed arguments I suppose?  

Well I disagree with you, tuna fish is NOT the chicken of the sea!

You are agreeing with these guys bashing America when their lives were saved by a vaccine created there. I understand their Fredo complex, not sure why you would agree. Tone is tough online - it is all in good fun. 

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1 hour ago, porkchop said:

You are agreeing with these guys bashing America when their lives were saved by a vaccine created there. I understand their Fredo complex, not sure why you would agree. Tone is tough online - it is all in good fun. 

@mprach024 was defending America in all but his last post. But even he can't deny that there are anti science anti vaccine people giving America a bad name. Almost certainly not the same people developing vaccines.

You can have good and bad in the same place or the same thing. The good doesn't make it a crime to criticize the bad.

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29 minutes ago, Bijan said:

@mprach024 was defending America in all but his last post. But even he can't deny that there are anti science anti vaccine people giving America a bad name. Almost certainly not the same people developing vaccines.

You can have good and bad in the same place or the same thing. The good doesn't make it a crime to criticize the bad.

I’m curious in your eyes, who is the good and who is the bad here? You must be aware that the majority is never right about anything? History has proven that over and over .. 

Are the bad guys the ones that question things? The ones that don’t just accept what the mindless ruling class states as “facts” ? Or are the bad guys the ones that tell everyone to shut up and listen to the mindless ruling class and their version of science? 

Albert Einstein was once questioned why he gave a test final to the same students that was exactly the same as it was the year before… His assistant asked why on earth would you do that? Why ask the same questions to the same students a year later?? He replied “because the answers are different now” .. 

When people decide to just accept things from the ruling class as they say is the moment when you give away all your freedoms and liberties… where do we draw that line to when we give away those things? ? Covid concentration camps? Banning people from Christmas in their own homes? 

97% of the worlds people are sheep. Everything they do in their lives is told to them by someone else. You must go to college, you must marry,  What time to be at work, how much their value of work is, how the world works, societal norms, how to think, what to think, when to feel guilty, etc… the other 3 percent are the ones you should be actually learning from. The ones that did none of those things. 

Critical thinking should be on the endangered species list at this point.

As I stated before I got the two jabs. Then I got Covid twice. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. I will not be getting any more jabs. You fools can keep on getting stuck every few months until the end of time if that’s what makes you feel safe. 

I would be more than happy to wager both of my aristocrat cabinet humidors completely loaded to max with nothing but aged cubans against anyone who has a comparable sacrifice as to how this all turns out in the end. Any takers willing to bet that the vaccine eradicates the coronavirus from this spinning ball of blue????? Let see how much confidence you have in your views  

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1 hour ago, mprach024 said:

Bro this sounds like the rant of a Bond villain. 😂

Society is never perfect, but a society is better than anarchy.  

We never eradicated the Plague, but now some medicine will make you just fine in case you’re unlucky enough to kiss the wrong prairie dog.  Eradication is not the only acceptable result, saving lives and making this livable is better than the alternative.  Black and whites are silly.  

Couldn’t agree more. But accusing those that choose to not have a mystery medicine injected into their bodies the bad guy needs some explanation.. protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated was actually spoken in seriousness! Explain that please?  Now answer the questions as to who the good guys and bad guys are. And don’t call me bro. Someone take me up on my wager? Put your money where your mouth is. I’m confident enough to do so. Are you? As long as this thread is not deleted history will prove itself in the years to come. 

so you’re ok with covid concentration camps? seriously I’m just trying to see where you all stand on these kinds of things. Remember I’m vaccinated! I remember getting that second dose on April 17th and while sitting there realizing there with 4 slots to register a shot given.... not 2... I thought hmmm they are up to something here. They know there will be more than 2 shots needed. 

FYI.. for a drug company to get FDA approval they create a drug, then finance their own clinical trials, then submit those results to the FDA for approval. The FDA uses the testing done by the drug company to decide on approval. What could go wrong there? Drug companies are honest? Political groups are honest ? Right., nothing to question there? 
 

they did this with Oxycodone and swore from the trials it was non addictive .. yeah that turned out well

1 hour ago, Ken Gargett said:

apparently the Israel Ministry of Health has declared that is fake news and that 77% of those hospitalised are unvaccinated. that is from a report dated several months after your claim was dated. we had a wannabee politician, clive palmer, out here making the same claims. 

you've claimed that science or presumably some scientists, claim more than two genders. instead of throwing such allegations, perhaps you'd like to provide evidence. i'm yet to hear any respected scientist make such a claim (left wing ratbags or soy boy liberals if you prefer are rarely considered respected scientists). evidence is something scientists - and many others - like to work with rather than just making claims that are not based on facts.

climate change? well something like 97 or 98% of creditable scientists around the globe seem to believe that it is settled, to varying degrees. you really think they are all on the payroll? all of them making decisions based just on their grants? that is a hell of a lot of grants. yet those few who dispute it seem entirely to come from two camps. those funded by the oil/gad/energy industries (no conflict there!) or self-appointed fruit bats. it only ever takes a few minutes checking the credentials of these guys. we have the bloke who claimed to be a leading climate scientist because he had read the weather on some tinpot tv station. then we have ken ham, who thankfully has moved from australia and made a fortune from donations from the gullible. apparently god will prevent climate change but just in case, he has built a 200 metre ark in his back yard. how the blokes with the butterfly nets have not found him is beyond me. 

then of course, anyone taking a vaccine or believing in the science is either a sheep or living in fear. what utter nonsense. but it is a lot easier to throw that rubbish about than actually support your arguments with facts. 

 

You are my favorite person on here to debate, it’s midnight here in the states. I’ll be sure to reply to you in the morning after I get my kids on zoom since their school is shut down right now because all 27 bus drivers that are vaccinated in their district are sick with covid........ I was hoping for a direct reply from you. In the past our friend Rob has moderated before we could reach an end. Look forward to the debate. Liberals are fun! 

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