CC bands

[smbauerllc]

Why do the Cubans use so much friggin glue on their bands?

 

I can't count the number of times that I damaged the wrapper trying to get one off.

 

Just happened this morning with a VR Famosos which got damaged right on a seam, so it started peeling badly in 2 directions.

 

Fortunately I was wise enough after so many damaged wrappers to pick up a couple bottles of Cigar glue.

 

Has saved many a cc in the last 6 months.

Need to order some more as my last bottle is getting low since they are so tiny.

 

Really be nice if the bottles were bigger, the tiny little ones I'm finding available just go so quickly.

 

Nc's dont seem to have this problem at all. They all come off easily from the seam on the band with no damage.

 

Really drives me nuts with cc's.

 

Also, if anyone has a lead on larger bottles of glue, I would greatly appreciate a heads up.

 

Haven't found anything bigger than 15ml so far, which is more than twice the size of most of what's available, but still fairly small.

 

Ok, rant complete,lol

 

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[Nino]

Wait until you smoke 2 thirds of the cigar to remove the band, the glue should be nicely heated for the band to come off w/o problems.

Can't say I have many band-glue-wrapper problems.

[smbauerllc]

8 hours ago, therealrsr said:

[mention=34576]smbauerllc[/mention] you can get a 2oz bermacoll jar of powder from leafonly.com for $10, it will last you years and mix as needed.  The also have pectin and gum arabic options.  I assume it is ok to reference them here since they do not sell cigars.

Thanks, I'll look into that

7 hours ago, Nino said:

Wait until you smoke 2 thirds of the cigar to remove the band, the glue should be nicely heated for the band to come off w/o problems.
Can't say I have many band-glue-wrapper problems.

Exactly what someone else on another forum suggested.

Don't honestly know why I bother removing them anyway as i rarely smoke a Cigar down to where the band would be.

Just become a habit someone to remove it when I cut it

[Chibearsv]

I'm surprised you're having that issue since your stock seems relatively well aged.  Have you tried very gently twisting them to just slide off the head rather than pulling them apart at the seam?  I've found that my older cigars have shrunk a tiny bit and that sliding the band off is usually pretty easy.  On newer stock, it's best to leave the band on until it warms up as @Nino said above.  

[Nino]

57 minutes ago, Chibearsv said:

I'm surprised you're having that issue since your stock seems relatively well aged.  Have you tried very gently twisting them to just slide off the head rather than pulling them apart at the seam?  I've found that my older cigars have shrunk a tiny bit and that sliding the band off is usually pretty easy. 

Correct - I find bands even on recent 1-2 yr old stock to be quite easy to remove ...

[smbauerllc]

The majority of the times I have just tried to slide them off, the edge cuts into the wrapper at some point and leaves me with the same issue if it happens to be on a seam, which is typically where it catches.

 

I am leaning towards getting into the habit of just leaving them on since it won't matter except on rare occasion when I smoke one down that far


 

[Tstew75]

I never remove mine until the burn is near the band. Most times a simple gentle twist back & forth will release it & slide it off over the ash.

Sometimes you'll run into a tough one, I take the sharp point of my Perfecdraw & give the edge a little rip...from there u can pinch & rip carefully. Just my dumb .02

[Nino]

Just smoking an after dinner 2 yr old PL Corona and removing the band which was loose from the start anyway.

Using the fingernail on my little finger to hook the fold and remove it.

[oneizzzz]

I've noticed tons of glue on Short de Punches in particular...

[Hammer Smokin']

Prez mentioned in an earlier thread to just apply a touch of heat to the label glue. 

I use a bic lighter and hit the glue for a sec, and often opens up those labels that give you trouble. 

but I only do that after I smoke down to the label and it won't open on it's own.

I also gauge if a cigar is ready by the looseness of the label. if it isn't lose to the touch (ability slide it up and down the cigar), the cigar likely isn't ready to smoke yet. 

[Bijan]

45 minutes ago, Hammer Smokin' said:

I also gauge if a cigar is ready by the looseness of the label. if it isn't lose to the touch (ability slide it up and down the cigar), the cigar likely isn't ready to smoke yet. 

I have cigars that are a close to a year after receipt and the bands are still not loose. I wonder if this depends on storage humidity %. I use 65% bovedas.

Although much older cigars are generally looser.

[Meesterjojo]

On 7/26/2021 at 1:26 PM, Nino said:

Just smoking an after dinner 2 yr old PL Corona and removing the band which was loose from the start anyway.

Using the fingernail on my little finger to hook the fold and remove it.

 

To me having a band that loose is a good sign that my cigar is ready to smoke. It's balanced and good to go.

 

[smbauerllc]

17 hours ago, Meesterjojo said:

To me having a band that loose is a good sign that my cigar is ready to smoke. It's balanced and good to go.
 

Interesting thinking.

I have never really noticed any difference in the looseness of the bands on any smokes regardless of age personally

Have just been leaving the bands on now unless I get the rare cigar that I actually smoke below the band, which hasn't happened yet since I quit removing the bands

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[Edicion]

I think keeping the band plays a part in hygiene and so I like keeping the bands on.

Although I can imagine it also makes your fingers smell less tobacco and when wearing white gloves (as we often do...), it won't rub off any color. 

Mainly, feel it protects the cigar from me (think greasy fingers from a burger or snacks, even drinks) and also feel it's a bit more hygienic (think Covid OCD). 

I often buy sticks from B&M/lounges and they tend to pick a good one to smoke as a service, and press a little bit all over the cigar to feel it out. Yum. 

Band on for sure. 

 

[StogieSteve23]

Smoke the stogie down close enough to the band where it will warm up on its own from the smoke/burn and then peel it off as @Tstew75 said… 
 

If that doesn’t work, you can always try warming up the overlapping area of the band where the glue is with your lighter. Just be careful not to overheat it or wrapper surrounding it. Running the flame over the band consistently/quickly enough should make the glue loosen up and easy to pull the band off without damaging the wrapper of the stick. 

[GaryK 54]

I agree with smoking to the band and letting the heat of the cigar loosen the band. I have also used a soft flame to warm the band and loosen the glue. One other tip, if the glue doesn’t loosen enough to peel it with your fingernail, you can usually loosen the band enough that it will slide off easily over the ash of the cigar without damaging the wrapper. 

[smbauerllc]

I just quit bothering to remove the bands. I bet rarely smoke one down to that point anyway, and uf I do, I'll just remove it then like you guys have suggested

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