Buffalo Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 I am wondering what CC you find as the most inconsistent in quality and therefore deem risky to purchase. My RUM MAR 19 Monte #2s, like previous boxes, are frustratingly overfilled, ruining any potential smoking satisfaction. (On the flip side, to me, VR Famosos have always performed beautifully.)
NSXCIGAR Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 Monte 2 is certainly up there. Siglo II would be for me as well. 1
Vitola Corleone Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 R&J Churchills for me. But I keep buying them because they're real good for me when they're on, I love the vitola, and can be found for decent prices. 3
SmokyFontaine Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 Siglo II or RASS. Tried young, a couple years, four years. Each one is just a absolute coinflip. Really good, or really turd. Nothing in the middle.
smbauerllc Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 Monte 2 is certainly up there. Siglo II would be for me as well.Interesting. The no.2 and Siglo II are 2 of my all time favorites and have smoked a lot of and never had any issues with either. Must have good luck Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk 2
Hollywood Ninja Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 Sig I for me as most inconsistent. RG has been pretty consistent for me overall. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
Queens88 Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 I’ve been put off Bolivar after a bad box of Petit Coronas (ETP MAR 17) and an even worse box of Royal Coronas (PUS MAY 19). Neither box from here, by the way! Should probably give the marca another chance. 1
teamrandr Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Lrabold89 said: its all a crap shoot.... Accurate I have had poor results with all of the Marcas 3
Chibearsv Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 11 hours ago, Vitola Corleone said: R&J Churchills for me. But I keep buying them because they're real good for me when they're on, I love the vitola, and can be found for decent prices. +1 here. I love a well made RyJ Churchill but they certainly can have issues.
mprach024 Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 BRC is by far the most inconsistent performer over a decade plus for me. I keep buying because I love good ones, but I’ve had more bad boxes of these than anything else. 1
joeypots Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 My experience has been that the Partagas SD#4 can be wildly inconsistent. 1
griller Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, Lrabold89 said: its funny when ppl make these statements like they never have issues...............i can say conservatively that i probably end up tossing about 25% of my CCs due to poor/intolerable flavor, construction/draw/burn issues ........and i do not have storage issues .......sometimes its literally like 2 or 3 in a row before i get a good one Hate to say it but this is kind of where I am right now, too. Seems like I have a 1 in 3 on base % for my most recent CCs living up to expectation from flavor, construction, and burn perspectives. However, I had a tremendous Mag 46 this past Friday that offsets the frustrations of having to weed thru the negative smokes. It is what it is...
MrBirdman Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 4 hours ago, smbauerllc said: The no.2 and Siglo II are 2 of my all time favorites and have smoked a lot of and never had any issues with either. I buy a lot of Siglo II and since 2018 haven't had any issues - can't say the same for Monte 2. Qdo has not been very consistent for me either. I've also gotten a lot of plugged or near-plugged Reyes to the point where I've basically stopped buying them.
joeypots Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 29 minutes ago, Lrabold89 said: i will say that one important factor is if ive had a box for at least a year it is more likely to perform better .......less than that...forget abotu it...all chance And I've found that once the cigars are 4 or 5 years of age the #s of duds decreases dramatically. I smoked a HURR from '12 a few weeks ago. First truly compromised due to poor draw cigar I have smoked in a while. 2
smbauerllc Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 I smoke 2/3 cc's and honestly don't really have a problem very often, and when I do its just a tight draw. It mainly only happens with under 40rg sticks, which is part of why I don't buy many. To be fair though, I don't buy boxes, so i have much fewer ones of the same marca and vitola at a time to compare like you would in boxes, and what singles, 3,4,and and 5 packs I but range in year of manufacture a lot, so likely another reason I have fewer problems. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk 2
smbauerllc Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 I buy a lot of Siglo II and since 2018 haven't had any issues - can't say the same for Monte 2. Qdo has not been very consistent for me either. I've also gotten a lot of plugged or near-plugged Reyes to the point where I've basically stopped buying them. Yeah, all of my Siglo Ii's are 2019 or 2020 and have been very good in every regard for the most part. Also buy a fair number of no.2's and cant recall having any issues with the same years. Just had my first of 3 QDO 50's, so I can't say on those.Loved it enough that if the next 2 are just as good, I may buy a box of 10, then we'll see if I have any problems Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
PigFish Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 This thread, if pinned to the top would likely contain every cigar in the catalogue. This means, there is but one answer. Cigars are a crapshoot. In years past I looked for cigars from a more vast catalogue that represented only a small fraction of production. Without a shortage that plages a popular cigar, the lesser popular cigars would sit and not be pushed into production with marginal quantities/qualities of component parts. This net for me very high numbers of consistent cigars. With many of the Coronas, PCs and Lonsdales gone due to (ostensible) lack of popularity, these 'uncommon' cigars are no long around. There only seems to remain 'popular' cigars and we are full circle. Shortages beget voids and runs on cigars, pushing the 'powers' to produce them will little care. Sometimes you get good ones, and sometimes you get crap. Tabacuba does not seem to be taking the crap back! Regardless of these production issues, CC are bought anyway. If one need not make them better, why make them better? Pride??? I don't think so! If the consumer does not demand it, he/she won't get it... -the Pig 4
BrightonCorgi Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 Better to ask what current production cigars your find to be more consistent instead.
El Presidente Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, PigFish said: This thread, if pinned to the top would likely contain every cigar in the catalogue.
Popular Post El Presidente Posted June 7, 2021 Popular Post Posted June 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Lrabold89 said: its funny when ppl make these statements like they never have issues...............i can say conservatively that i probably end up tossing about 25% of my CCs due to poor/intolerable flavor, construction/draw/burn issues ........and i do not have storage issues .......sometimes its literally like 2 or 3 in a row before i get a good one FOH polls on "how many dud cigars per box" makes it clear that people have big differences in tolerance levels. Stan is a good mate of mine and a perfect example. He will happily struggle with a cigar ......it drives me nuts. He doesn't see it as a fail. On the other hand I have watched others throw a tantrum and go into a foetal position because the burn is not razor sharp. You want to smack them over the ear. 5 1
SmokyFontaine Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Lrabold89 said: its funny when ppl make these statements like they never have issues...............i can say conservatively that i probably end up tossing about 25% of my CCs due to poor/intolerable flavor, construction/draw/burn issues ........and i do not have storage issues .......sometimes its literally like 2 or 3 in a row before i get a good one Same. It makes me think I'm either picky or folks have a hard time admitting they got a crappy cigar in the Cuban Roulette. I'm not happy when I do, and before I realized how inconsistent they were I figured I must be missing something, but it seems like those who smoke CC and NC are more willing to be...sincere? with their criticism of both origins vs people who only smoke one or the other. 1
Bijan Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, SmokyFontaine said: Same. It makes me think I'm either picky or folks have a hard time admitting they got a crappy cigar in the Cuban Roulette. I'm not happy when I do, and before I realized how inconsistent they were I figured I must be missing something, but it seems like those who smoke CC and NC are more willing to be...sincere? with their criticism of both origins vs people who only smoke one or the other. Even in their inconsistency CCs are inconsistent. I had a box of Partagas Mille fleurs that was 2/3 plugged and most were a struggle to smoke even though I smoked the whole box. Right now I'm smoking a Siglo III and this box hasn't been the best but still a million times better than that box of MF. I tend to smoke the duds to the band if they are at all smoke able and not total tent pegs. Once or twice I stopped halfway on a cigar because the flavours were off, last time was a nudies n1. Anyways I think smoking the duds makes me appreciate the good ones more. On that note @Habana MikeMike is sending me a big set of tent pegs from his collection. I hope to smoke all of those and document my experience for science 😂 We'll see if I can make it through that batch. 1
mprach024 Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bijan said: On that note @Habana MikeMike is sending me a big set of tent pegs from his collection. This rumor again? 1
Bijan Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, mprach024 said: This rumor again? He sent me a picture of a bunch he picked out. I'm interested to see how this long con plays out 2
sonarman81 Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 I have (had?) a box of Cosacos that were all plugged, or thought. I weighed them all, picked out the lightest ones and have smoked two. They weren’t plugged. So, I’ve been weighing mine lately to get an idea on plugged or wide open draws. Thought I had a process down until I pulled out 2 EPI #2’s last night. If I remember correctly, one was 10.9g and one was 10.4. I started with the 10.9g. Wide open draw. Though, crap, the other is going to be the same. Put the 10.9 back in the humidor to smoke later and at a higher Rh. Smoked the 10.4, perfect draw. I know we are talking tenths of a gram, and I guess that’s the point, the bunching may have a lot to do with it. And based on that, who knows what the box of Cosacos has in store. Now, those ranged from 7-9gs. 1
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