Fosgate Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 What is the number one flavor in a cigar that turns you off from a cigar and why? For me it's butter. Don't get me wrong, I love butterscoth and butter on my toast etc. My lackluster desire for the flavor goes back to brewing beer. If you boil beer wort with the lid on the boil kettle it causes a chemical of diacetyl to appear in the beer giving it the flavor of butter or cream corn. Diacetyl is an ingredient in microwave popcorn used to geive it a buttery flavor. Another way you can pickup that buttery profile in a beer is a pub that does not clean it's draft lines frequent enough. Infection in the lines create that slick on the tongue buttery flavor that you get at some breweries. So for me knowing knowing what that buttery flavor can be in a fermented product and is a major flaw in beer profiles, is an immediate turnoff in cigars. So for me me my mouth is saying yes but my brain often interferes with taking enjoyment in the flavor of butter. 1
JohnS Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 Pepper. The reason is because this is the one flavour, for me, that is most likely to dominate a cigar and cause an imbalance with the other flavours. However, pepper in itself, if it compliments the other flavours in the cigar, I can and do enjoy in more moderate amounts. 4
Habana Mike Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 Soap/cilantro Speaking of beer, the esters produced by Isoamyl acetate present banana aroma and flavor which is a flaw in most beers. Never got banana in a cigar! 2
Islandboy Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 Bubble gum, which seems to be a flavor I detect in most of the La Gloria Cubanas I’ve had. I’m sincerely hoping it’s just because they’ve all been relatively young, and age will transform this element into something more pleasant.
jhalischuk Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 Don't like that milk/creamed coffee flavour. Black coffee is great though.
asmazda Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Earthy... makes me imagine compost contaminated the leaves, and then psychologically hard for me to enjoy the cigar.
CaptainQuintero Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 To me there's a sickly chemical fake fruit nature to Upmann Mag 50s that I just can't go near anymore, it's like someone made an energy drink trying to capture San Luis Rey, just bizarre. It makes me queazy just thinking about it. No idea why it only seems to effect me though
Boxer31 Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Pepper or real sharp spice. Love pepper on food all kinds especially red pepper on pasta or pizza just not in cigars.
Hollywood Ninja Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Pepper and SoapOooph, just thinking of it makes my stomach turn. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Tstew75 Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 I really hate the super-diluted cocoa flavor...you know, the kind Monte Opens & some other mass-produced Montes can have. Meh. 1
GVan Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Number one unwanted flavor is a metallic taste - I've had that only a few times. Don't really enjoy grass although hay is ok (that's why I have no Cohiba's in my collection - since I see grass a lot in flavor descriptions). Not a fan of strong pepper since I can smoke many NC's for that flavor if I want!
BrightonCorgi Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Grass. Do not like Vegueros due to their overly grassy taste. They're like smoking a fresh cut lawn with an aftertaste that cannot be killed... 1
tigger Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 On rare occasions, I've gotten a vegetal , almost broccoli-like flavor in cigars. I actually like broccoli on my plate, but it doesn't work for me at all in a smoke. 1
Hammer Smokin' Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 I haven't had pepper in a cigar in a couple years...but I also moved away from RASS, Punch, Bolivar, and Partagas. (for the most part) I know many refer to it as mongrel, I taste pepper.
Joeyjojo Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 I've had an overly floral note in aged cigars, like necking a glass of perfume/aftershave. I've mainly experienced this in BBF of a certain age. I've seen in an interview with a guy from 5th avenue in Germany who suggests this flavour is a sign of being over-aged and past it's prime. Another one is paper. I find in some Dominican cigars (Davidoff white label e.g) a certain burning white paper note which I don't particularly like. 2
La_Tigre Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Overly Peppery primarily. but Pine-Sol cigar twice in a row kills the want for smoking a cigar for a week.
Kaptain Karl Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 #1 is pepper. Which is basically 95% of NC’s #2 is licorice. 4
Zaxeiler Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Funny so many of these has been pepper, one of my favorite notes in moderation. A nice spice. When good, retros bring so much nuance from spicy red pepper to more of a green bell paper or a straight black/white peppercorn. For me - unbalanced cedar. Cedar and cream in great cigars is nice, but when young or bad cigars bring it in overwhelming amounts, it’s just a mouthful of wood to me. Another bad one is ash, from a bad burn or draw. 3
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