Coming soon to a country near you....

[Nevrknow]

28 minutes ago, PigFish said:

If this is done it will be the result of OSHA, not necessarily by the employer, but through the employer.

Employers must provide a 'safe' workplace. You only need ask one in manufacturing or construction about what damage OSHA can do to you for a host of reasons. OSHA can site you for real risks, like people walking untethered on the roof to 'housekeeping,' which is wholly subjective.

Not protecting employees from a known risk is in OSHA's wheelhouse. If a vaccine is a means to sideline OSHA, you bet employers will do it.

This hits my income stream. Thumbs up. Not to me personally but I have heard the horror stories of pissing off OSHA. Not a good thing to do. And he is correct, anything from the obvious ( not tied off ) to not keeping the floor clean, a pallet leaning against a wall. hole in the roof bigger than 2 inches.  It can get ridiculous depending on who your inspector is.

[Baccy]

fwiw, I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I hope this thing works and is very safe. I have more hope for the Moderna version as it's supposed to prevent transmission. I'm dealing with the stress of this virus now. A co-worker tested positive. Now I'm worried about it myself. It's all very stressful, and I'd love to see it come to an end as much as the next fella?

[Greenhorn2]

My take on the virus. Both my girlfriend and l have had the C-19. For me it was the mildest cold I've ever had. Slight headache and stuffy nose in the morning but a good hot cup of coffee healed me right up. My girlfriend was bedridden for 4 days due to the headaches (she suffers from severe migraines anyway). It took me about 3 days to feel normal, her about 10 to 12 days. I don't think I will take the vaccine due to the fact that there are a lot of people with preexisting health conditions that probably needs it worse than I.  If it comes to a point where you have to be vaccinated for international travel than shoot me up.

[NSXCIGAR]

On 12/19/2020 at 2:44 AM, Zigatoh said:

So the biggest rollout of a vaccine ever, and you're saying we should do an antibody test on everybody before they get vaccinated?

For low-risk individuals, yes. 

 

On 12/19/2020 at 2:44 AM, Zigatoh said:

And seeing as anyone can potentially pass on the virus, there isn't anyone who absolutely doesn't need it.

If you're not interacting with high-risk individuals on a regular basis, I don't see much of an issue there.

Also, despite what we are being told data and evidence on asymptomatic transmission is very scanty and hotly debated among experts.

 

On 12/19/2020 at 2:44 AM, Zigatoh said:

Also, if the antibodies fade after say a year, similar to flu for example, then you'd still need to start getting the vaccine next year anyway,

Herd immunity should be achieved by the end of the year, and I'll be damned if I'm getting vaccinated for this thing every year. 

[NSXCIGAR]

On 12/19/2020 at 11:37 AM, PigFish said:

If this is done it will be the result of OSHA, not necessarily by the employer, but through the employer.

You may be right about that, particularly if congress doesn't end up providing immunity from liability to these businesses. I would think it's going to be much easier for an employee to sue than a customer. It might end up that employers mandate the vaccine for employees.

[mprach024]

On 12/19/2020 at 9:14 AM, Drguano said:

As soon as word gets out that the vaccine enhances one's performance in the boudoir, people will be clamoring for the jab (no pun intended).

Lmao.  this made me laugh thanks for that.

So true though, amazing the side effects people will ignore to get rid of a headache, calm their allergies, or to get an erection.

[Drguano]

Speaking of side effects...

Your man is in the pub.

His mate takes a sip and wonders, "So, are you getting some on the side?" 

Your man sighs and answers, "It's been so long since I've gotten any, I didn't know they moved it!"

[BellevilleMXZ]

Whats it cost you USA folks to get this if you dont have insurance?

[Hammer Smokin']

pretty sure I read it is available to all US citizens for free, regardless of insurance plan? 

(but I'm looking for the article to link it, and I can't seem to find it...)

[Habana Mike]

I'm thinking next year's may cost a little more....

[BellevilleMXZ]

While I am still not in a huge rush to get it,(not that it matters as will prob a awhile before I can anyway...) it did hit a little closer to home last week. I'm a Dealer tech, and a local dealer had an outbreak 2 weeks ago. Started as 2 people, with very little symptoms. Then turned to about 37+ over the following week. And this place was careful, with protocols. So it does seem to spread easy. Thankfully, nobody got real sick from it. I'm surprised really that  it took that long to hit a dealer, what with all the cars we are in and out of. 

[BrightonCorgi]

On 12/18/2020 at 8:13 PM, Baccy said:

Is this coming to the country know as USA?

It will be.  Visitors will be required to show proof of vaccination to get a Visa for entry into the USA.  Will be the same for most countries.  Inevitable.

[Habana Mike]

Of course inevitable. Hegelian dialect.

[BoliDan]

4 hours ago, Habana Mike said:

I'm thinking next year's may cost a little more....

Depends on the rights of distribution, which is bullshit on its own. No free market, no good results and no good prices. But there seems to be current competition with varying results. We just need to allow it and let consumers decide, without government intervention... Good luck

[BrightonCorgi]

Large companies will require contractors or onsite vendors to have proof of Covid vaccination once it's readily available as a prerequisite for working onsite.