Rhinoww Posted December 19, 2020 Author Posted December 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Rhinoww said: Esmerelda no 1 as well. review on glove later. Still looking fir options Esmerelda was great. Gloves were so so. Fingers got cold. Would need to cut them to expose my finger to use my ohone. These bad boys are OLD. Will try my running gloves (don’t worry, I use them for shooting skeet not running) next.
La_Tigre Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 We’ve been suffering here, too. Just no viable options to enjoy outside time. And no safe indoor smoking options.
cookj1 Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 I use these in the winter. They fit great. They’re thin, and unless you’re smoking in the Arctic, they’re perfect: https://www.thenorthface.com/en-us/shop-all/accessories-c500789/etip-recycled-gloves-pNF0A4SHA?color=173
Ken Gargett Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 i swear that i opened this thinking it was a piss take. the day i need gloves to smoke, you can shoot me. yes, i know it gets cold but seriously? do you guys wear balaclavas while you smoke? if not, it is not too cold. 1
Bijan Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 14 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: i swear that i opened this thinking it was a piss take. the day i need gloves to smoke, you can shoot me. yes, i know it gets cold but seriously? do you guys wear balaclavas while you smoke? if not, it is not too cold. Yes if you don't smoke outdoors below freezing then you don't need anything. I'm pretty sure weather below 0c is quite rare in Australia though. 1
Ites Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 14 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: i swear that i opened this thinking it was a piss take. the day i need gloves to smoke, you can shoot me. yes, i know it gets cold but seriously? do you guys wear balaclavas while you smoke? if not, it is not too cold. I swear I read your comment and thought it was a piss take. Quick Google search and the aus record of -23C is from 1994. We had -20,7 last year. You don't know cold. You have no idea 🤣 Personally I pass on cigars as soon as we go below 10c. Aka no cigars for 4-6 months of the year except for the one-off outstanding day that sometimes happen. 1 1
Bijan Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ites said: I swear I read your comment and thought it was a piss take. Quick Google search and the aus record of -23C is from 1994. We had -20,7 last year. You don't know cold. You have no idea 🤣 Worse than that, Australia is a big country. Brisbane specifically hasn't hit 0C in over 100 years: https://www.currentresults.com/Yearly-Weather/Australia/QLD/Brisbane/extreme-annual-brisbane-low-temperature.php Edit: "These records go back to 1887. The lowest temperature measured during that time was 0.5 degrees Celsius (33 Fahrenheit) on August 1, 1994."
Ites Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Bijan said: Worse than that, Australia is a big country. Brisbane specifically hasn't hit 0C in over 100 years: https://www.currentresults.com/Yearly-Weather/Australia/QLD/Brisbane/extreme-annual-brisbane-low-temperature.php Edit: "These records go back to 1887. The lowest temperature measured during that time was 0.5 degrees Celsius (33 Fahrenheit) on August 1, 1994." Yeah, I didn't know the precise state so just went with national record to prove my point and mock the comment you do improve that point though, so let's include what you said.. My background for all this is "anywhere that doesn't get snow and ice every year, don't know winter". But I am biased, so whatever 😎✌️ 1
Ken Gargett Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Bijan said: Worse than that, Australia is a big country. Brisbane specifically hasn't hit 0C in over 100 years: https://www.currentresults.com/Yearly-Weather/Australia/QLD/Brisbane/extreme-annual-brisbane-low-temperature.php Edit: "These records go back to 1887. The lowest temperature measured during that time was 0.5 degrees Celsius (33 Fahrenheit) on August 1, 1994." bijan, it varies a bit and official stats are not always accurate. a sparky mate with his superdooper temperature thingee measured the temp at my old place one night shortly after i moved in. we were on the balcony having cigars. minus 4C and this was still early evening so it was going colder. there were no gloves. a lot of jumpers and beanies but no gloves. i have told the story about how one morning at the old place, i filled a glass full of ice and water but was heading out for the day. this was about 8am. forgot it and got back at 5pm. still full of ice. so the temp can't have been much above 0C at any stage all day. and there were plenty of days like that. but yes, we do not compare with many regions. my point was if it is cold enough to go out with your face uncovered then gloves? 1
Bijan Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said: my point was if it is cold enough to go out with your face uncovered then gloves? Ken, in the cold (and by that I mean that one day it was below freezing 😉). hands are the weak point, if you have to use them. Yes if you can put your hands in your pockets you never need gloves. (You'd never need gloves to walk somewhere) But if you have to ride a bike or a motorcycle or handle tools, or even a cigar, they're the weakest point. Especially if there's the slightest bit of wind. It would probably be harder to go without gloves than without a hat at that point. (again if you happen to be using your hands) 1
Popular Post El Presidente Posted September 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted September 7, 2022 Bijan Ignore him. You only have to look up Ornery in the dictionary. ornery bad-tempered or difficult to deal with. 8
Ken Gargett Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 9 hours ago, El Presidente said: Bijan Ignore him. You only have to look up Ornery in the dictionary. ornery bad-tempered or difficult to deal with. first, that photo was definitely a piss take - for our mate freefall. don't ever link me to that bunch of fruitbats imbeciles. secondly. repeat point one. actually, i was having a perfectly interesting discussion re all this until someone rattled your cage. 9 hours ago, Bijan said: Ken, in the cold (and by that I mean that one day it was below freezing 😉). hands are the weak point, if you have to use them. Yes if you can put your hands in your pockets you never need gloves. (You'd never need gloves to walk somewhere) But if you have to ride a bike or a motorcycle or handle tools, or even a cigar, they're the weakest point. Especially if there's the slightest bit of wind. It would probably be harder to go without gloves than without a hat at that point. (again if you happen to be using your hands) thanks Bijan. if we can ignore the peanut galley for a moment, i was always led to believe that one lost heat more through one's head than anywhere else (but i have no actual evidence for that and can't recall where i saw it). i'd also add that for me, there is a tactile aspect to enjoying a cigar, feeling the cigar in one's hands. obviously that is lost with gloves (i can understand the fishing glove concept with the tips cut off).
El Presidente Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said: don't ever link me to that bunch of fruitbats imbeciles. National Restaurants Association? Narky indeed!
Bijan Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said: thanks Bijan. if we can ignore the peanut galley for a moment, i was always led to believe that one lost heat more through one's head than anywhere else (but i have no actual evidence for that and can't recall where i saw it). i'd also add that for me, there is a tactile aspect to enjoying a cigar, feeling the cigar in one's hands. obviously that is lost with gloves (i can understand the fishing glove concept with the tips cut off). Yes definitely you lose more through the head. But you can (over)-compensate by dressing more warmly on the core. However the extremeties are tough because the body tends to cut bloodflow to the extremeties to preserve heat (especially when one insists on keeping one's hands out in the cold). For obvious reasons the body can only go so far in restricting bloodflow to the head. If you look back on the thread you'll see that I mentioned exactly those type of half-finger gloves for exactly that reason. 2
Ken Gargett Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 9 hours ago, El Presidente said: National Restaurants Association? Narky indeed! ornery i will accept. certain other tags will evoke a more wobbly response. 9 hours ago, Bijan said: Yes definitely you lose more through the head. But you can (over)-compensate by dressing more warmly on the core. However the extremeties are tough because the body tends to cut bloodflow to the extremeties to preserve heat (especially when one insists on keeping one's hands out in the cold). For obvious reasons the body can only go so far in restricting bloodflow to the head. If you look back on the thread you'll see that I mentioned exactly those type of half-finger gloves for exactly that reason. i did see those at the time and thought fair enough. but dividing it all up seemed too difficult.
JohnnyO Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 I read years ago about a BOTL who had an old diesel car that he would only use only in the winter. He would go to the gas station on Sundays buy a newspapaper and a coffee that had free refills. He would spend the better part of the morning listening to classical music, smoking cigars, reading the paper, and getting free refills. He adjusted the heater/windows as necessary as his car idled for hours. There's your glove fix. John
mprach024 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 Buy one of those cigar fishing holders that were up for sale a while back, and put on the heaviest gloves you can find. Warm hands and easy smoking. “Sometimes my genius is almost frightening.” 1
Popular Post Bijan Posted September 8, 2022 Popular Post Posted September 8, 2022 I use heated gloves (they look like something darth vader would wear), and I just alternate hands (one hand with heated glove the other hand, no glove and holding the cigar). That plus an infrared heater and a propane heater. To be honest if I bother to light the propane heater, I don't really need the gloves, but it's a PITA to light. I'm saving up for a setup with a ridiculous number of those outdoor infrared heaters, so I can just sit outside in shorts in -20 weather at the push of a button. Hopefully I do the math right and I don't end up vaporizing myself. 1 4
Rhinoww Posted September 8, 2022 Author Posted September 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Bijan said: I use heated gloves (they look like something darth vader would wear), and I just alternate hands (one hand with heated glove the other hand, no glove and holding the cigar). That plus an infrared heater and a propane heater. To be honest if I bother to light the propane heater, I don't really need the gloves, but it's a PITA to light. I'm saving up for a setup with a ridiculous number of those outdoor infrared heaters, so I can just sit outside in shorts in -20 weather at the push of a button. Hopefully I do the math right and I don't end up vaporizing myself. It’s funny - this thread has a few years on it. I ended up building a porch which blocks most wind if needed and has those industrial IR heaters. Hate it though that we are getting into heater season. I have not been vaporized yet but have felt a bit hot on the top of my head 😂 1
Chibearsv Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Rhinoww said: It’s funny - this thread has a few years on it. I ended up building a porch which blocks most wind if needed and has those industrial IR heaters. Hate it though that we are getting into heater season. I have not been vaporized yet but have felt a bit hot on the top of my head 😂 Yep, Rhinoww's got it right. Wind is your enemy in the winter when it comes to using the infrareds. @Bijan, make sure your setup blocks as much wind as is possible to allow the infrareds to do their work. I wrapped my pavillion with a heavy tarp last year but the wind just blew down the gable ends and rendered my heaters ineffective below 35F. I'm working on a plan to put some sort of panels up for the winter to enclose the pavillion but it will be an engineering challenge, especially some sort of door. Once the leaves are down, it gets VERY windy here so whatever I use to enclose it is going to have to be really strong. 1
Cigar Surgeon Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 21 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: thanks Bijan. if we can ignore the peanut galley for a moment, i was always led to believe that one lost heat more through one's head than anywhere else (but i have no actual evidence for that and can't recall where i saw it). i'd also add that for me, there is a tactile aspect to enjoying a cigar, feeling the cigar in one's hands. obviously that is lost with gloves (i can understand the fishing glove concept with the tips cut off). I can't believe I missed this riveting discussion of smoking in the cold, which is my most common occurrence and lease favorite past time. As @Bijan said, hands are the weak point. You'll wear a toque in -10 sCience or below, but face coverings really wouldn't come into play until -32 sCience or below; at least for me. And it would have to be a fairly uncomfortable windchilld. Coldest I've been out and about in was -46 sCience with a windchill below -65 sCience, and I was not smoking at the time but did wisely wear a full face covering. All of that to say; good gloves are a must. Winter smoking evidence below: 2
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