Duxnutz Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 Hi folks, I know we have some health professionals in here. What the length of time between cigars and doing a blood test to detect covidine/nicotine? Fully disclosed 1-3 cigars a week but would prefer not to get flagged. cheers
La_Tigre Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 All depends on how your body metabolizes nicotine. Some folks can get by on a 3 day free cleansing. Others up to 2 weeks. It depends on the test sensitivity as well. Someone very close to me passed a saliva test after 3 days clean. 3-4 cigars a week isn’t exactly sucking 2 packs of sick sticks a day... If you know the test is coming, just lay off for a week prior.
The Squiggler Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 It also depends on the test. If it’s a blood test you can probably count on 2-3 days being a safe period of abstinence for most substances including nicotine. For saliva maybe a little longer, but I’m not exactly sure. Urine tests take the longest to clear, but I’m not sure if they even do urinalysis for nicotine.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
jacktarnold Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 Depending on what it is for, the shear act of disclosing 1-3 a week will be enough to get tagged as a smoker regardless of the test results.
The Squiggler Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 Yep. Safest bet: Do not disclose. My uncle chews nicorette and takes a week off before testing. Obviously there is a world of difference between nicorette (or premium cigars or even vaping) and a pack a day cigarette habit, but the tests don’t care.
leapingknown Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 Smoke 5-7 cigars a wk. Took a month off...got tagged. I'm a respiratory therapist and should of known better. Took me 2 months..1 wk to clearSent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk 1
SigSauer516 Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 The tests they administer to detect nicotine is usually looking for cotinine. Life insurance exams screen for cotinine via urine test, not blood. Dont know what kind of exam you took though.
mrmessy Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 Smoke 5-7 cigars a wk. Took a month off...got tagged. I'm a respiratory therapist and should of known better. Took me 2 months..1 wk to clearSent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkWow, what test type?Sent from my SM-N976U using Tapatalk
leapingknown Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 Wow, what test type?Sent from my SM-N976U using TapatalkUrine!Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
sho671 Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 Current blood tests can detect cotinine for up to 10 days after your last cigar/cigarette/nicotine exposure. To be safe I'd give it a full two weeks.
Duxnutz Posted March 11, 2020 Author Posted March 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, sho671 said: Current blood tests can detect cotinine for up to 10 days after your last cigar/cigarette/nicotine exposure. To be safe I'd give it a full two weeks. And Urine? 4 weeks?
mbflash80 Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 If its for life insurance I wouldnt worry too much about it...they arent screening for nicotine in your blood...and a cigar smoker has little to no chance of being flagged...most life insurance companies consider an occasional cigar smoker as a non smoker...now if you have disclosed otherwise to your Doctor thats a different story...medical recs with notation of a smoker could flag you.
Bri Fi Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 A couple years ago I had underwriting for life insurance. I totally forgot and the day before the blood/urine test I smoked a Lusi. All clear. I was shocked. 1
Human Jukebox Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 I work for the largest lab in the US....you need to rest for 3-4 weeks. 1
avaldes Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 Ok I will be the prick in the crowd....is it really worth risking an issue if you were to die and have your life insurance revoked when it came time to pay out? Over a few bucks a month of premiums? If you are willing to buy a box or two per month, isn't a few more bucks for the piece of mind on your life insurance worth it? It was for me. 2
Duxnutz Posted March 11, 2020 Author Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, avaldes said: Ok I will be the prick in the crowd....is it really worth risking an issue if you were to die and have your life insurance revoked when it came time to pay out? Over a few bucks a month of premiums? If you are willing to buy a box or two per month, isn't a few more bucks for the piece of mind on your life insurance worth it? It was for me. Did you read the original post?
joeypots Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 I was smoke free for three weeks about 20 years ago and was classified as a smoker by the insurance co. Can't help but think the test is better now.
dominattorney Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 I disclosed 15 cigars a month but got the flu 10 days prior to the test for my life insurance. Came up clean and considered nonsmoker. I agree with @avaldes that it is far better to disclose than not, regardless of what the test is for.
sho671 Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 17 hours ago, Duxnutz said: And Urine? 4 weeks? Urine tests range from 1-3 weeks, 4 weeks to be safe. But these are really guidelines. There are factors like age and health that will impact how well your body processes these substances.
avaldes Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Duxnutz said: Did you read the original post? Yes, and if you disclosed that amount and you smoke that amount, your test data will reflect that. Based on the context of your question and the type of responses, it is reasonable to infer that the implication was how to avoid nicotine detection during a screening test.
avaldes Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 BTW, this discussion circles around a couple times per year on cigar boards. Some dick always comes along an says "you shouldn't do that.....be like me!" As I stated, I was going to play the role of the a-hole in the crowd. It really doesn't affect me or anyone at all.
dowjr1 Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 I go a full month prior and have never been flagged for urine or blood issues. I don’t know if there is anything to it, but always felt like getting some good workouts and sweating in would help flush it out.
Duxnutz Posted March 12, 2020 Author Posted March 12, 2020 8 hours ago, avaldes said: BTW, this discussion circles around a couple times per year on cigar boards. Some dick always comes along an says "you shouldn't do that.....be like me!" As I stated, I was going to play the role of the a-hole in the crowd. It really doesn't affect me or anyone at all. I’ll bet you’re the type of guy who comes along when a guy is bbqing and tells him he’s doing it wrong. 2
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