havanaclub Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Ha ha. I like them ok enough but I hate the size. I don't care for robustos or hermoso 4.Oh really? Well I know a guy who likes robustos Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rckymtn22 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Boosted said: Ha ha. I like them ok enough but I hate the size. I don't care for robustos or hermoso 4. I would take some off your hands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
encephalization Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Fugu said: Looks absolutely odd. Different to all I have seen, and to what I see on '05 dress boxes in my stash. More concerning than the stamping (that might be CbC) is the iron branding, which is way off. CbC? Sorry, not familiar with all that acronyms and can't find it in the threads. The photo was taken at a slight angle which might explain if the iron branding looks non-aligned. What in particular looks off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNice! Anyone seen hide or hare of a full cab of these? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akela3rd Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Nice! Anyone seen hide or hare of a full cab of these?Sorry, but that'll be "hide nor hair" then. Or am I just flogging a dead horse again...?Thunder & Lightening '75-'15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arctic Dude Posted June 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2017 Hail to The Chief....my latest 24:24 arrivals from The Prez! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 10/06/2017 at 7:02 AM, encephalization said: CbC? Sorry, not familiar with all that acronyms and can't find it in the threads. The photo was taken at a slight angle which might explain if the iron branding looks non-aligned. What in particular looks off? Sorry mate, CbC - Cuba being Cuba Translates to: No all weird looking stuff needs to be a sign of fake/fraud/counterfeit, as it can be a mere issue of poor QC. The stamp one (box code) might qualify for that category, but it is fishy. More bothering is the iron brand (the HSA stamping). That, to me, is looking entirely wrong, and there are several marks being off. Perhaps also a QC-thingy, who knows, and someone lost the original one and had to do some handicrafts for a makeshift one....lol. Or that particular factory had been using an odd "replacement" brand-template. At least, I have never seen such before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
encephalization Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Sorry mate, CbC - Cuba being Cuba Translates to: No all weird looking stuff needs to be a sign of fake/fraud/counterfeit, as it can be a mere issue of poor QC. The stamp one (box code) might qualify for that category, but it is fishy. More bothering is the iron brand (the HSA stamping). That, to me, is looking entirely wrong, and there are several marks being off. Perhaps also a QC-thingy, who knows, and someone lost the original one and had to do some handicrafts for a makeshift one....lol. Or that particular factory had been using an odd "replacement" brand-template. At least, I have never seen such before.I appreciate the input, I really do. I've attached another photo of the iron brand, from less of an angle. What exactly is off? (for future reference)I have no doubts about authenticity, partly because of the source but mainly because of how the first one smoked (even with only three days rest). Pepper on the back, leather and cocoa (especially in the first and second third). Very complex with nuances changes throughout. Granted, all cigars could be the target of fakes but a figurado must be lower on the list.Nonetheless, I am glad for your expertise because it will definitely be in the back of my mind when I visit older shops in the future.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahDooRow Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 45 minutes ago, encephalization said: I appreciate the input, I really do. I've attached another photo of the iron brand, from less of an angle. What exactly is off? (for future reference) Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk I am by no means an expert regarding iron brand variations over the years. However, the font looks odd... especially "Habanos s.a.". It could be nothing more than poor quality control. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 2 hours ago, encephalization said: I appreciate the input, I really do. I've attached another photo of the iron brand, from less of an angle. What exactly is off? (for future reference) I have no doubts about authenticity, partly because of the source but mainly because of how the first one smoked (even with only three days rest). Pepper on the back, leather and cocoa (especially in the first and second third). Very complex with nuances changes throughout. Granted, all cigars could be the target of fakes but a figurado must be lower on the list. Nonetheless, I am glad for your expertise because it will definitely be in the back of my mind when I visit older shops in the future. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Mate, first of all let me say that this is in no way meant to rain on your parade. And I am not at all sure whether this may indeed be an indication of fake or else. But, the iron branding is completely different to what a Habanos-brand should look like. Take a look at the many other pictures in this thread or the info given on CCW. Font of 'Habanos' is wrong, as MahDooRow sais, spacing is off (too wide), the semi-circles of the rounded frame of 'Hecho en Cuba' look as if somehow pieced on (thickness). The "C" in 'Hecho' and in 'Cuba' appears smeared, as if taken from a different font or not 'mounted' correctly. Same holding for 'Habanos' - boldness of the 'H' and the 'b', H is in wrong font, etc. And finally it looks like just being stamped on and not imprinted with an iron punching. I've only seen such in recent years. All older production usually showing a more or less pronounced indentation. I haven't checked much of my stash, just tooked up some '05 boxes and all appear to bear the normal brand. Perhaps other members may be able to add info as to whether they do find a similar one to yours. One cannot rule out at this moment that this may be a different (diff. to standard) brand-pattern that had indeed been used in legit boxes for some time. Regarding the box code - just for the record, but this really could be CbC: Usually, the code is starting with the factory code and then follows the mmm and yy. Should read OCT of course and usually all in capital lettering. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahDooRow Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Fugu said: Regarding the box code - just for the record, but this really could be CbC: Usually, the code is starting with the factory code and then follows the mmm and yy. Should read OCT of course and usually all in capital lettering. I also thought the box code was backwards (date code first followed by factory code), but an online search revealed this was common in 2005 for Partagas Aristocrats and Presidentes. The "t" in "oct" sure looks odd (more like an f than a t). On balance there are definitely some inconsistencies that raise suspicion. However, at the end of the day the proof will be in the smoking experience. If these sticks are counterfeit (and hopefully they are not) the OP should know as soon as he lights one up. Keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post WoadyCypress Posted June 13, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2017 Slightly aged Hoyo de MontereyLe Hoyo du prince RAE MAR 15Not many video reviews of these but since they're being discontinued and HDM is one of my favorite marque, I had to jump on them. Plus I've been on the petit corona kick lately! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprouthog Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 CORO 2424Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SirVantes Posted June 13, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2017 I see driftwood and espresso in my future... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nekhyludov Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 5er of custom Monsdales from Jorge at Club Habana, courtesy of a great FoHer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrybrowne Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 5er of custom Monsdales from Jorge at Club Habana, courtesy of a great FoHer. Love these- could smoke them all day long.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheLiquidGator Posted June 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2017 Perfect morning cigar. These are smoking great. I have noticed the smoke out of these is "bluer" then most cigars. Anyone else notice that? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrybrowne Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Perfect morning cigar. These are smoking great. I have noticed the smoke out of these is "bluer" then most cigars. Anyone else notice that?I haven't noticed the blue smoke, but agree that these are great morning cigars!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mwaller Posted June 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2017 From our host... PRA DIC 10. I think I've done enough damage for quite some time! The scent is wonderful, even before you lift the lid. 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wertman Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 5 hours ago, mwaller said: From our host... PRA DIC 10. I think I've done enough damage for quite some time! The scent is wonderful, even before you lift the lid. Wow.. I'm bowing to you.!! I'm not worthy I'm not worthy. Great pick up have fun with those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D-Mind Posted June 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2017 Finally i decided to try something new & bought these nice sticks here in Moscow. Take a look at bloody cracking RyJ! Can't wait to smoke it 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwaller Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, D-Mind said: Finally i decided to try something new & bought these nice sticks here in Moscow. Take a look at bloody cracking RyJ! Can't wait to smoke it Superb selection! Enjoy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Hoze Posted June 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2017 Came home to some great boxes today, but this one I am the most pumped about: 50 Cab of 2003 Des Dieux. They smell great. Definitely won't be waiting long to smoke the crooked one under the ribbon. About 15 min. 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanaclub Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Came home to some great boxes today, but this one I am the most pumped about: 50 Cab of 2003 Des Dieux. They smell great. Definitely won't be waiting long to smoke the crooked one under the ribbon. About 15 min. Very nice sir!! Where are the other boxes? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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