What cigars do you feel are most-overrated?

[Thirds]

Unfortunately for me, with the exception of HUHC, I don’t get anything from Upmann. Something about my palate can’t taste anything in the cigars. Connie 1, Connie A, Connie B, No 2, Mag 46, 50....I just can’t taste them.  I’ve been told age improves and had a generous buddy from FOH send me a nice aged sampler.  I want to like them so bad.  HDM, with exception of petit robusto, is a close second.  The epi line to my tastes is smoking air.  

[NSXCIGAR]

Overrated, meaning they're thought of very highly generally, but I find no reason they should be and haven't for 20 years:

CoRo

RASS

Hoyo Epi 1 & 2

BBF

Monte 2

Mag 46

None of these cigars I've ever thought were deserving of their high praise. Now, there are many others I don't see the greatness in but don't generally receive high praise like Fonseca or HU 2.

[Meklown]

3 hours ago, Tstew75 said:

All LCDHs (except Libertador)

Punch 48 doesn't play your tune?

[Cayman17]

Never had an exciting RASS or Monte 2 thus far. 
 

surprised about comments re: SCDH principe. I love that flavor and very consistent 

[RDB]

I never had an LE that I thought was as good as a good example of regular production.

[irratebass]

Cohiba, & Trini's for me, however I did have a young Vigia and it kinda bllew my mind....sooo there's room for improvement 

[Fugu]

Regular production: BRC. The meanest of all Boli, but the most popular and the most on offer on here, as it seems. (only being "topped" by the BRC Tubo - utter crap luck of the draw. .... sais a lover of all Bolívar).

Sharing the CORO notion. Way too inconsistent to be called a good cigar and to deserve earning the popularity that they do.

[Puros Y Vino]

• The recent Cohiba EL's. CRS and Talisman.  (big rolls of "meh")
• RASS.  Have RASS as far back as 2011.  They are getting "better" but have yet to reach that mythical status so many attribute to it.
• Most of the Cohiba Siglo line (Exceptions. The I & II have always been solid for me)
• Cohiba Maduros.  (Genios is OK, the other 2 I have no interest in)
• SLR and HdM DC's (bland)
• Monte 2 (very frustrating cigar for me. Have had a 50/50 split of very good to very bland)

 

[BarryVT]

Everyone is going to have an opinion. But the way I see it, an overrated cigar is just a cigar that you dont like as much as someone else. And that's ok, everyone's taste is different. Then taste versus price point comes into play. Some may not believe the taste justifies the cost. That's ok as well.

[PigFish]

I have found problems in every line and size of Cuban cigar. I center around which cigars perform the best. The field ebbs and flows. For example; the PLPC. Was great, reintroduce was good, became over produced and went down the toilet. (MHO) This does not mean there are not good ones. It just means that the 'mean' smoking experience has declined.

I never have had luck with the Cohiba Robusto, nor the RASS. I have one box of each. The last time I bought the CoRo was in 2004. In that light, I probably missed some great cigars. However I believe I have missed far more mediocre cigars.

I believe that the Cubans make great Petit Robustos. Their regular Robustos are lacking. I don't smoke any of them really, not like many of you do.

Limited cigars... well that is akin to playing Russian roulette with a loaded semi-auto! I am not talking about 'rolling some secondary buyer...' I am talking about smoking them.

I have such limited exposure to limited cigars over the last 15 years, maybe I am all wrong!!! I feel that is a fair disclosure. You don't really know unless you try them. I am not a sucker and it is hard to get me to shoot myself in the foot twice! I suppose I am glad that someone buys these and keeps Tabacuba's doors open. I am no collector or cigar investor. I just want to smoke the damn things, so I will continue to do what I have always done. I will stick with smoking my high probability cigars.

Cheers, Piggy

[mbflash80]

strictly overrates as in they can be good but certainly not as great as general perception:

Monte 2 (for the last 7-8 years at least)

Upmann 2

Mag 46

PL PC (This one I just dont get the love...have never had a good one in my life)

Fonseca #1 (not that its thought highly of but to me its trash)

and an honorable mention to:

Lusitania...man this cigar used to be one of my favorites...but the last few years I have not had one memorable experience with them...hoping the ship gets righted soon.

[Fugu]

15 minutes ago, mbflash80 said:

Lusitania...man this cigar used to be one of my favorites...but the last few years I have not had one memorable experience with them...hoping the ship gets righted soon.

Oh yes, forgot about the Lusis. A decade-long vale of tears. I always feel the EL Seleccion Privada blend actually got all that what I am missing in the Lusitanias today. A rare case where the LE was truly better than regular production. An example of a cigar that still lives on its famous name, former fame and greatness, but today can only be qualified as being overrated.

[SCgarman]

2 hours ago, mbflash80 said:

strictly overrates as in they can be good but certainly not as great as general perception:

Monte 2 (for the last 7-8 years at least)

Upmann 2

Mag 46

PL PC (This one I just dont get the love...have never had a good one in my life)

Fonseca #1 (not that its thought highly of but to me its trash)

and an honorable mention to:

Lusitania...man this cigar used to be one of my favorites...but the last few years I have not had one memorable experience with them...hoping the ship gets righted soon.

Upmann 2? It is perhaps the best pyramide out there

[ThePolskiOgorki]

One could say that at any given time any given cigar may fall short of expectation. Perhaps they are all overrated? Personally, I have had great luck with PLPCs and ERDM CS, not much else has really given me any kind of consistency. Tomorrow that may change.  And may I also point out I have already read PLPCs are on several people's overrated list...interesting. One person's stud is another person's dud. 

When you really think about how many cigars are made every year at all of the factories in "Cuba" (and I stress the word Cuba) is it any wonder how there will be so many different answers to this question? There is just no way to guarantee any kind of real consistency in an organic product that is impacted by so many variables.

That being said, when I can, I still buy and smoke trying to chase the moments when everything does come together and savoring them when they do.

[NSXCIGAR]

9 hours ago, Fugu said:

Regular production: BRC. The meanest of all Boli, but the most popular and the most on offer on here, as it seems. (only being "topped" by the BRC Tubo - utter crap luck of the draw. .... sais a lover of all Bolívar).

Sharing the CORO notion. Way too inconsistent to be called a good cigar and to deserve earning the popularity that they do.

I think BBF outsells BRC by a significant margin here @El Presidente? Certainly BBF is the world's best-selling Boli. Maybe Tubos No. 2 had it due to duty frees but those are gone now. And I certainly wouldn't say BRC is universally highly regarded like the BBF. Full disclosure: I dislike both. 

CoRo for sure. It's considered a flagship Cuban cigar. Smokes like a middle-of-the-roader (if that) to me. Like the RASS, I have been waiting to be impressed by these for 20+ years. Hasn't happened yet. Give me a Siglo I over CoRo any day.

[CptGoodTimes]

I can appreciate the lists others have made.  I agree with some & disagree with some.  It’s all a roulette wheel.  You get lucky with some & not so lucky with some.  I’ve had great, good, & bad with most everything I’ve tried.  When I find a code that’s ?, I double up on it, & I’m rewarded.  

[Lotusguy]

So so so many... I’ll list my most controversial ones:

BGM
BCG
Any Cohiba LE
QdO 50
JL 2
PL Encantos
RG88

I’ll stop here

[BoliDan]

Lots of great blasphemy in here, ill keep it going. Partagas Lusi.

[Elgallo55]

Hdm san juan.

montecristo no 2, which is surprising since I enjoy pretty much everything else from this marca especially the petit edmundo.

[NSXCIGAR]

On 1/11/2020 at 4:03 AM, PigFish said:

I never have had luck with the Cohiba Robusto, nor the RASS. I have one box of each. The last time I bought the CoRo was in 2004. In that light, I probably missed some great cigars. However I believe I have missed far more mediocre cigars.

I've had the CoRos and RASS you missed and you missed nothing. I, like you, will probably never buy either again in my life. 

17 hours ago, BoliDan said:

Lots of great blasphemy in here, ill keep it going. Partagas Lusi.

Sorry, don't believe you. 

[KnightsAnole]

interesting so many had no luck with san juan, Ive had 3 stellar cabs, none came through pcc though.

overrated-  probably is talisman, so much hype, so expensive and I just dont get it.

 

 

[El Hoze]

Connie A (not bad, not great) 

CoRo (like them, but overhyped) 

RASS (never had one I didn’t toss, don’t like RA in general) 

Talisman (garbage...I see singles selling for more than HU 2 Reservas, beyond insanity. I like 1966 but way overpriced) 

QDOs in general (eh) 

[Sir Diggamus]

For my taste it’s the PSD4, specifically with age. I really like the green pepper kick when they were young but as many I sat on have aged they lost any richness and just became ok IMO. Several folks I gifted them to loved them, but I don’t get it. For what seems to be one of the go-to staple Cuban cigars the hype seems lost on me.

I will also echo others with the Hoyo Epi 1 & Epi 2. I have had a few really good Epi 2s over the years but most are just flavorless, and I have never had an Epi 1 that wasn’t completely flavorless.


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[Hoepssa]

Revamped QDO that are not from MSU code.

[foursite12]

In no particular order:

RASS

Epi 1 and 2

RG PC

Fonseca 1