Bolivar Soberanos 2018 (BOLIRW)

[Wilzc]

 

First hit is all wood. Spices at the front of the tongue. Some sensation at the back of the throat, ligero showing up right from the start. Fruits surface on the finish. Cedar somewhere around.

 

Burn line is wavy. Burn goes off rather quickly.

 

Second 3rd has this nice sweet coffee notes. Wood is again present. Overheats a little fast when pushed but then dies if when I don’t puff frequently. God ...

 

Retrohale is chocolate! And burnt newspaper lmao.

 

 

Just before the end of the 2nd, Fruitiness appears. Sweet. Juicy. But also getting harsh. Urgh...

 

After the first half. Cuban twang comes in. That sour, grassy, cedary twang with hints of chocolate and coffee. Burn is still **** tho.

 

Final 3rd is rather dour. And all sorts of harsh due to the burn issues. I’m just waiting to put this cigar down

 

Final Smoke Time 80mins (though there is still a little more than an inch left hehehe)

 

Final thoughts: 84-93 points. Could have been a great cigar. Had the burn issues not appear it could have scored a lot higher? With some humidor time the flavours would smoothen out to be a splendid cigar. However I don’t think a few years resting would solve the burn issue. That’s just the wrapper-binder combination being too non-porous for good combustion.

 

Sad.

 

 

 

 

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[RDB]

Thanks for the good honest review. I’m not v tempted by these tbh! Between BPC and BBF I feel like I’m covered. Now a Bolivar Churchill on the other hand...

[Islandboy]

Thanks for the review and intel. Got a box of these that I haven’t dipped into yet...think I’ll lay off for a while.

[Wilzc]

From my experience with EL wrappers. You don’t want them tooo dark, rough or oily.

Just a few shades darker than Colorado would do great!




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[Auspaul]

Good review beuatiful photos

[inter4alia]

10 hours ago, Wilzc said:

From my experience with EL wrappers. You don’t want them tooo dark, rough or oily.

Just a few shades darker than Colorado would do great!




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Absolutely agree with this. 

[bbguardsp]

2 hours ago, inter4alia said:

Absolutely agree with this. 

With the smaller ring gauge of new Upmann LE I'm guessing a lighter wrapper is gonna be even more important on them since the wrapper is just a higher % the smaller you go.

[Tstew75]

I haven't found these dramatically different than Boli's other offerings.

At their higher end, go deep on Libertadors. Trust me.

[Cayman17]

4 hours ago, Tstew75 said:

I haven't found these dramatically different than Boli's other offerings.

At their higher end, go deep on Libertadors. Trust me.

I’ve bought 4 boxes of Libertadors from various 24:24 listings and they look fabulous; much nicer than the Soberanos.  I hope they taste half as good as they look and smell. Gorgeous wrappers. 

[Tstew75]

1 hour ago, Cayman17 said:

I’ve bought 4 boxes of Libertadors from various 24:24 listings and they look fabulous; much nicer than the Soberanos.  I hope they taste half as good as they look and smell. Gorgeous wrappers. 

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They are insanely great at that $20-ish price point. I've loved every one I've smoked.

[hanjr]

mmmmmmmm love Bolivars!  best cigar ever

[Chef]

15 hours ago, Tstew75 said:

I haven't found these dramatically different than Boli's other offerings.

At their higher end, go deep on Libertadors. Trust me.

I had a Libertador two nights ago. Box code MSU OCT 18.  Can’t say I loved it. Mostly a steel, lightly toasted tobacco and some muted leather. Pretty bad. Hopefully sometime down will show an upside.

**Edit**

I appreciate the nice, honest review here.  

[Tstew75]

3 hours ago, Chef said:

I had a Libertador two nights ago. Box code MSU OCT 18.  Can’t say I loved it. Mostly a steel, lightly toasted tobacco and some muted leather. Pretty bad. Hopefully sometime down will show an upside.

**Edit**

I appreciate the nice, honest review here.  

You definitely got a dud. Those sticks are normally always about cocoa-dusted mongrel w/ power + crazy complexity (even ROTT).  Not many Partagas factory misses, IMO.

If it was from a box you have, rest the others or dry box the next one for a few days. Stay smokey my friend!

[Wilzc]

With cigars. U never know. Hahaha.

I’ve been getting bad sticks and bad boxes lately from all sources.

Thiccc wrappers with poor burn.


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[jimmypa]

Thanks for the review! Was tempting to pick some of these up but will probably stick with reg production stuff.