It's a weird world: Aussie vegan takes neighbours to court over the smell from barbecue

[MIKA27]

On 9/3/2019 at 4:48 PM, Ken Gargett said:

i presume that is so they don't have to actually see you. 

I haven't met @Fuzz but I imagine he is pretty short for the neighbor to see him over the fence....?  

 

On 9/3/2019 at 8:54 PM, 99call said:

I'm interested to hear from all the parents on the forum.   Obviously kids playing outside, and BBQing is just normal wholesome life (and the lady in the court case is a nut job), but what of bad parenting?.   Is it taboo in Aussie, US, etc to say to bad parents "any danger!?". 

In the UK, it all seems very confusing, the news is full of over-coddling, over cautious, over concerned sort of emotional blackmailing,  but the actual parenting you see from people in public seems to be very "i cant be bothered" "little timmy, can do whatever he wants". 

I'm taking it as a given that everyone on FOH will be great parents,  A question to you, do crappy parents and their kids annoy you?  do you ever say anything? or is it taboo. 

I'm a parent of an 11 year old boy, I think I'm very fortunate to have such a great kid. All parents think their children are great, we love them, but I would be honest if my son was a pain and do something about that. But alas, he is simply amazing and even he at 11 years of age has often in public seen some massive nuisances at the local parks to say a piece of his mind about them to me. It's like he is an adult in a childs body!! 

I wouldn't allow him to get away with throwing tantrums, yelling, screaming, causing havoc in the back yard, shopping/supermarket isle etc, and although I'm a parent, I would be the first to say something to a neighbor if it was SUPER out of hand. But I would try first and put up with it, I really don't like being "That neighbor" that complains and turns the hose on the neighbor!  

But the onus really comes down to the parent. Kids learn good and bad habits. 

[Fuzz]

1 hour ago, MIKA27 said:

I haven't met @Fuzz but I imagine he is pretty short for the neighbor to see him over the fence....?  

 

I am not short! I prefer the term, vertically challenged.

[shlomo]

16 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

shlomo, there have been numerous detailed reports out here. rob posted one but he could have posted half a dozen others. 

but remember that the courts did have all the details. and they made the judgement. and then, still with all the details, she was knocked back for an appeal. 

Oh I get it, and at first I was beating my chest and grunting like a barbarian...hrugh hrugh MEAT, hrugh hrugh I'll show her, I'm a tough guy, lucky for her, vegan...

I know the courts have "all" the details, I just prefer to know more for myself before grunting....plus I was having a shite day, so, there is that.

[cigcars]

39 minutes ago, Fuzz said:

I am not short! I prefer the term, vertically challenged.

    *Am also a member of that club - there's jackets

[Fuzz]

10 minutes ago, cigcars said:

    *Am also a member of that club - there's jackets

Sports, denim, bomber or straight?

[Auspaul]

On 9/3/2019 at 8:54 PM, 99call said:

I'm interested to hear from all the parents on the forum.   Obviously kids playing outside, and BBQing is just normal wholesome life (and the lady in the court case is a nut job), but what of bad parenting?.   Is it taboo in Aussie, US, etc to say to bad parents "any danger!?". 

In the UK, it all seems very confusing, the news is full of over-coddling, over cautious, over concerned sort of emotional blackmailing,  but the actual parenting you see from people in public seems to be very "i cant be bothered" "little timmy, can do whatever he wants". 

I'm taking it as a given that everyone on FOH will be great parents,  A question to you, do crappy parents and their kids annoy you?  do you ever say anything? or is it taboo. 

Interesting reminds me of when i was at a shop and my kid was touching tvs dvd players I told him to stop and he put on a turn I told him I was taking him outside  the security guard thanked me and told me of how bad some parents were.  PLenty of direspectful parents out there  I just try to stay away  what 99call said about the swearing used to be a regular thing with the rental next door I would end up with these neglected kids in my yard I was a sort of defacto father figure giving advice and food

[99call]

45 minutes ago, Auspaul said:

Interesting reminds me of when i was at a shop and my kid was touching tvs dvd players I told him to stop and he put on a turn I told him I was taking him outside  the security guard thanked me and told me of how bad some parents were.  PLenty of direspectful parents out there  I just try to stay away  what 99call said about the swearing used to be a regular thing with the rental next door I would end up with these neglected kids in my yard I was a sort of defacto father figure giving advice and food

I think this is the point.   When I was a kid, in a way every member of the public acted as a defacto disciplinarian.   I recall being admonished/put straight etc by neighbours, shop owners, etc etc.     Sadly interaction of kids is taboo for numerous reason A, a horrific number of paedophiles out there, and B, Parents that take strangers disciplining their kids as being an attack or criticism of them as parents.

I recall vividly as a kid, we were in a country pub.  My mum had found a toddler, who was about to rub dog crap into their eyes.  She grabbed the toddlers arms, and ushered the kid around tables of parents, looking for mum or dad.    Anyway a very hostile dad who was drinking with this mates, got up and was like "what the f-are you doing with my kid etc etc.   My mum responding,  "trying to stop it rubbing dog crap into his eyes!!.......what are you doing?".   He took his kid and stormed off, no thank you, no nothing. 

 

[Nino]

Pass this to the Vegan :

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49579820

Vegans and vegetarians may have higher stroke risk

By Caroline Parkinson Health editor, BBC News website

 

[joeypots]

How do you know if someone is vegan? 

Don't worry, they'll tell you.

[Akela3rd]

The above is also applicable to pilots...

 

Sent from 47171 Lempo 

 

 

 

 

[MD Puffer]

On 9/3/2019 at 12:44 PM, Kitchen said:

I went to a B&B once a few years back.  They served what appeared to be a pretty nice breakfast, bagels, real lox, sliced meats, but decided on putting out only vegan cream cheese with no warnings.  

I still cant figure out why.  I mean they had plenty of animal products, but vegan cream cheese?  

I don't think I could ever stay there again.  

maybe the host was lactose intolerant?

[Auspaul]

14 hours ago, 99call said:

I think this is the point.   When I was a kid, in a way every member of the public acted as a defacto disciplinarian.   I recall being admonished/put straight etc by neighbours, shop owners, etc etc.     Sadly interaction of kids is taboo for numerous reason A, a horrific number of paedophiles out there, and B, Parents that take strangers disciplining their kids as being an attack or criticism of them as parents.

I recall vividly as a kid, we were in a country pub.  My mum had found a toddler, who was about to rub dog crap into their eyes.  She grabbed the toddlers arms, and ushered the kid around tables of parents, looking for mum or dad.    Anyway a very hostile dad who was drinking with this mates, got up and was like "what the f-are you doing with my kid etc etc.   My mum responding,  "trying to stop it rubbing dog crap into his eyes!!.......what are you doing?".   He took his kid and stormed off, no thank you, no nothing. 

 

Hahahaha total lack of awareness ,responsibility  and respect,  took my kids to one of those playcentres with the climbing castles and ballpits there was these kids attacking other kids,the  mothers of bullied kids trying to stop them while the  offenders mothers sat casually self obsessed  talking shit and drinking coffee and eating cream covered food oblivious. My son and his friend fought back I stopped them and then my sons  friend stood in front of a plastic cubby house one of the kids charged at him  his friend got out of the way at the last second and the kid smashed his head quiite badly. The kid runs out to the skanky mothers and said he was beaten up mothers rush in all up in arms wanting to know who hurt the child I told them exactly what happened said it was the funniest thing I have seen  and then asked are all your children special needs they have been attacking all the other children for no reason.They tried to argue I said you have paid them no attention no supervision they are acting feral are child services aware of your neglect   Then the other mothers got stuck in to them they went off I left almost in tears from laughing

[Ken Gargett]

1 hour ago, Auspaul said:

Hahahaha total lack of awareness ,responsibility  and respect,  took my kids to one of those playcentres with the climbing castles and ballpits there was these kids attacking other kids,the  mothers of bullied kids trying to stop them while the  offenders mothers sat casually self obsessed  talking shit and drinking coffee and eating cream covered food oblivious. My son and his friend fought back I stopped them and then my sons  friend stood in front of a plastic cubby house one of the kids charged at him  his friend got out of the way at the last second and the kid smashed his head quiite badly. The kid runs out to the skanky mothers and said he was beaten up mothers rush in all up in arms wanting to know who hurt the child I told them exactly what happened said it was the funniest thing I have seen  and then asked are all your children special needs they have been attacking all the other children for no reason.They tried to argue I said you have paid them no attention no supervision they are acting feral are child services aware of your neglect   Then the other mothers got stuck in to them they went off I left almost in tears from laughing

was headed to lunch yesterday and walking through the southbank gardens. ducked in to the public facilities for a quick leak. was coming out when a bunch of schoolkids with teacher started coming in. they were about 13. one little ^%$##*&&&*&* - a huge fat kid for 13 - stuck his hands across the doorway as though he was Sampson between the pillars. i could not believe it. some grubby little 13 year old is expecting me to ask him to move. fat chance of that. i walked as hard as i could straight into him - was a bit like walking into a giant jelly. delighted to say he bounced off the wall into a heap. last thing i hear is his teacher screaming at the kid telling that he has been told before, stand on the left. i know that going marshawn lynch on a 13-year-old is probably not something of which one should be proud but it did make my day. 

[garbandz]

thirty years ago a good friend told me his son had become a Vegan.

I had never heard of the word,and I inquired what it meant.

he said "A Vegan is a Militant Vegetarian ".

Words of wisdom from so long ago.

[Fuzz]

2 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

was headed to lunch yesterday and walking through the southbank gardens. ducked in to the public facilities for a quick leak. was coming out when a bunch of schoolkids with teacher started coming in. they were about 13. one little ^%$##*&&&*&* - a huge fat kid for 13 - stuck his hands across the doorway as though he was Sampson between the pillars. i could not believe it. some grubby little 13 year old is expecting me to ask him to move. fat chance of that. i walked as hard as i could straight into him - was a bit like walking into a giant jelly. delighted to say he bounced off the wall into a heap. last thing i hear is his teacher screaming at the kid telling that he has been told before, stand on the left. i know that going marshawn lynch on a 13-year-old is probably not something of which one should be proud but it did make my day. 

At least the teacher had the good sense to yell at the kid, instead of you. I would have steam rolled into him too..... all 163cm (5'4") of me , but then again, I do weigh 80kg (~175lbs).

[Ken Gargett]

2 hours ago, Fuzz said:

At least the teacher had the good sense to yell at the kid, instead of you. I would have steam rolled into him too..... all 163cm (5'4") of me , but then again, I do weigh 80kg (~175lbs).

fuzz, i got the feeling he was "that kid". the one that the teacher knows causes 90% of his problems. i remember one mate of mine at school - if there was any laughter in class, not orchestrated by approved activities or the teacher himself, this kid was immediately given detention. sounds harsh but although the teacher might not have been able to to prove it was this kid, it was him 99% of the time. 

so as soon as this happened, i reckon the teacher would have assumed that the idiot was doing something he shouldn't. 

[99call]

4 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

was headed to lunch yesterday and walking through the southbank gardens. ducked in to the public facilities for a quick leak. was coming out when a bunch of schoolkids with teacher started coming in. they were about 13. one little ^%$##*&&&*&* - a huge fat kid for 13 - stuck his hands across the doorway as though he was Sampson between the pillars. i could not believe it. some grubby little 13 year old is expecting me to ask him to move. fat chance of that. i walked as hard as i could straight into him - was a bit like walking into a giant jelly. delighted to say he bounced off the wall into a heap. last thing i hear is his teacher screaming at the kid telling that he has been told before, stand on the left. i know that going marshawn lynch on a 13-year-old is probably not something of which one should be proud but it did make my day. 

All I can see in my minds eye, is BoJo's leading shoulder on this poor Japanese kid.  Haha

 

[Stogiepuffer]

This is funny...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/thousands-to-attend-bbq-next-to-home-of-vegan-woman-who-sued-neighbors-over-smell-of-meat-and-fish/


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