Ciscojohansson Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Oh dear.... From halfwheel. I can't wait for the review ? ROMEO Y JULIETA CHURCHILLS AÑEJADOS ARRIVING IN SWITZERLAND NEXT WEEK A new addition to Habanos S.A.’s Añejados collection of aged cigars is set to make its Swiss debut next week. According to an announcement by Intertabak AG, the distributor of Habanos S.A. products in Switzerland, the Romeo y Julieta Churchill Añejados A/T will make arrive at La Casa del Habano stores in the country on June 19. It will then be released to Habanos Specialist shops on June 26. As the name implies, the cigar comes in the Churchill vitola, which measures 7 x 47. Intertabak AG says that the cigars have been aged in the original tubes and boxes for at least 10 years prior to being released. The cigars also wear the secondary Añejados band that has graced the previous release in the series, which debuted in 2014. That group includes: Romeo y Julieta Pirámides — 2014 Montecristo Churchills — 2014 Partagás Corona Gorda — 2015 Hoyo de Monterrey Hermosos No.4 — 2015 H. Upmann Robustos — 2016 They come in 25-count boxes and are priced at 835 Swiss Francs per box, approximately $839.70. This is the first time that the Añejados series has used a cigar that is also a regular production release. The H. Upmann Robusto is available as part of the Travel Humidor series. Habanos S.A. has not yet responded to an email seeking additional details about the release. 2 1
PrairieSmoke Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 At this price who could resist? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
Puros Y Vino Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 What an oddball release. On the plus side, the Anejados line gets a cigar that people recognize. Now the odd thing is how will these be priced in comparison to the RyJ Reserva release? These would be $33USD/stick. What was the Reserva per stick cost on release? Anyone?5YO Premium release vs 10YO aged/held back release? I know what I'd prefer. And of course, this also means that Habanos is looking to capitalize on their aged stock and get a premium for it. The days of finding and buying old stock at current stock prices may be over. 2
Tollickd Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Ok I have never ever tried any of this line of releases as so many have said they are bad! But this omg and a huge R&J fan need to try this as soon as my shop has some! Also love the way they are keeping the old tubes and label! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Ciscojohansson Posted June 13, 2019 Author Posted June 13, 2019 Maybe this will be the cigars that turns around the anejados-line? I have my doubts.
Tollickd Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Maybe this will be the cigars that turns around the anejados-line? I have my doubts.Yes maybe and for them to be stored on the tubes all this time when we are told to remove them when aging wonder how they turned out!Anyone worried they just had loads of unsold tubes that didn’t sell for one reason or another and as they had old tubes they made them this release? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
CaptainQuintero Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 This just raises even more questions about the Anejados program. So before it was cigars, in new vitola, that were rolled and stored in secret for years, then released as a surprise. But now the program is also putting out Revisado line cigars? I know we take a lot from Cuba with a grain of salt, but this whole program is incredibly shifty 1
Stump89 Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Definitely an odd release. Will probably pass on these, especially at that price, yikes.
BoliDan Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, CaptainQuintero said: This just raises even more questions about the Anejados program. So before it was cigars, in new vitola, that were rolled and stored in secret for years, then released as a surprise. But now the program is also putting out Revisado line cigars? I know we take a lot from Cuba with a grain of salt, but this whole program is incredibly shifty Well the NC market showed them the fistfuls of cash to be made with "rare" releases. As long as people keep buying it, the less innovative and transparent they need to be. Anejados being the least transparent. I for one do not contribute to the rare madness since my wallet is only fat enough for regular production releases. I can't say I would not fall for it if I had more coin in the bank though.
PartagasIV Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Well, literally anything would be better than the previous Anejados Cartón Quemado.
Popular Post NSXCIGAR Posted June 13, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 13, 2019 My question is how is HSA talking the distributors into taking more of these? This program has been a sales disaster and it's HSA that's making the money on these, not the distributors. All Anejados releases are still readily available at the same prices they've always been which tells me the distributors don't have much wiggle room on them, i.e. HSA priced them high from the start. I can't even begin on the shadiness of this line...why would they sit on these RyJs an additional 3 years past the rest? Do the Anejados bands go on at rolling or is every cigar removed from the tube after 10 years and bands placed on? And where the hell are they storing and aging these cigars? I'm assuming we're talking at least 500 boxes...that's an awful lot of cigars to keep under proper conditions and keep in mind nearly all of the Anejados releases were aging at the same time between 07-09. So several thousand boxes in ideal conditions...where? And not one person has ever seen, heard of or reported anything about this program to this day. Keep that in mind--not one person with even intimate Cuban connections has ever reported anything about the details of this program including ever seeing these cigars being stored. 1 hour ago, Ciscojohansson said: Habanos S.A. has not yet responded to an email seeking additional details about the release. Ha, yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath on that one. If you're lucky you'll get the press release again. An actual human explaining anything...forget it. 7
David88 Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Was this release even announced at the Habanos festival? (Either this year or last years). Very strange release. The cynic in me would assume these have been lying around in boxes for quite some time unsold or undistributed and now repackaged with a fancy new tube, band and price tag. I’m not sure I would even want a 7-10 year old Churchill anyway. There has been lots of talk on here about the poor state of churchills prior to 2014 with that year seen as something of a renaissance for the line. Why would you pay a premium for a cigar rolled at a time when the blending and care given to them was questionable? 1
BJRPorter Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Wasted leaf. The Anejados program, and especially the pricing, makes no sense. Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice... 1
Edward7 Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 That looks like a fun cigar. And I love the old tubo. First time I saw it (didn’t know it at the time since I was 14) was in The World is Not Enough where this woman offers one to Bond.
FOHrty9er Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Tollickd said: Ok I have never ever tried any of this line of releases as so many have said they are bad! But this omg and a huge R&J fan need to try this as soon as my shop has some! Also love the way they are keeping the old tubes and label! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I thoroughly enjoy my Partagas Añejados purchased here. Actually my current favorite cigar in my rotation. 1
BJRPorter Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, FOHrty9er said: I thoroughly enjoy my Partagas Añejados purchased here. Actually my current favorite cigar in my rotation. Yeah, but $835?
FOHrty9er Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Oh, hell no. That box better be line in gold. The Partys were a friggin bargain.
Bagman Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Tollickd said: Yes maybe and for them to be stored on the tubes all this time when we are told to remove them when aging wonder how they turned out! Who tells us to remove them for aging. Aging in tubes is a good thing. 1
CaptainQuintero Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 I think if there was some clarity then a lot of the misgivings would go, but the sheer amount of shady goings-on and bizarre HSA statements etc about them just sets off all kind of alarms for me. If they had simply said, we have stocks of cigars designed and produced for limited edition runs but felt that the market wasn't right for them at the time, so are arranging the distribution of them now as a separate range... That right there kills nearly all the dodgy sideways looks. I think the utter lack of knowledge from the amount of insiders, Cuban friends etc that had never heard anything about them before the press release casts more doubt over them than anything else Just a bizarre series of events
bayala Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 4 hours ago, BJRPorter said: Wasted leaf. The Anejados program, and especially the pricing, makes no sense. Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice... “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.” 3
Akela3rd Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 Does this mean they've taken thousands of cigars out of their tubes to put an extra band on them, then retubed them? Or were they mysteriously already double banded? Ockam's Razor theory says not...Sent from 47171 Lempo
mt1 Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 11 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Do the Anejados bands go on at rolling or is every cigar removed from the tube after 10 years and bands placed on? I read that the Anejados are rolled and boxed, and later they are taken out of the box, banded, and reboxed along with the "REVISADO" stamp added. I agree with you though, like, where are they putting these things to store in "ideal conditions". They can't even store regular production stuff correctly, I bet they found a bunch of left over sticks long forgotten and are now pushing these out at a premium.
Tollickd Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 I read that the Anejados are rolled and boxed, and later they are taken out of the box, banded, and reboxed along with the "REVISADO" stamp added. I agree with you though, like, where are they putting these things to store in "ideal conditions". They can't even store regular production stuff correctly, I bet they found a bunch of left over sticks long forgotten and are now pushing these out at a premium.Maybe they are returns that never sold in old tubes and they thought do this to make some money backSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
99call Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Monterey said: Who tells us to remove them for aging. Aging in tubes is a good thing. completely agree
mt1 Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, Tollickd said: Maybe they are returns that never sold in old tubes and they thought do this to make some money back Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's possible, in which case they're probably in worse condition than if they had never left the island...
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