hall of shame - smoking nazis

[Ken Gargett]

i can understand all the non smoking laws etc etc etc, as, to be honest, i hate cigarette smoke - never had one and never will. think they are a blight.

a lot of people don't understand how one can differentiate between cigars and cigarettes but leaving that aside, i am establishing this hall of shame for bars, clubs, pubs, you name it, that do something beyond the norm.

first up is one of my otherwise favourite restaurant/bars - shuck at main beach (i have told scotty - owner and a good mate - that he is about to be so inducted).

shuck, under pressure from imbeciles with too much money and no taste - and please refrain from pointing out that such a description doesn't really narrow the crowd on the coast - and more specifically cigarette smokers, has banned cigars.

cigarettes are fine but cigars are not. cigarette smokers don't like the smell. shakespeare was wrong. first, we should kill all the idiots. the world has gone mad.

please feel free to induct any other establishments that need it.

[gehrig24]

Alright, I will add to the list.

Canterbury Park in Shakopee, MN. It is a horse track with poker and other table games inside. They allow cigar smoking outside to watch the horse races but it is not allowed anywhere inside......but naturally people can smoke cigarettes like chimneys inside, outside, anywhere they please. Do not get me wrong, I like the place for the entertainment but it would be nice to smoke a cigar while player cards inside.

[Freefallguy]

Here’s one for you Ken…

I enjoyed an exceedingly fine meal and some Wolf Blass shiraz at the Tasting Room with a lovely French-Canadian architect who I knew would light up a cigarette after dinner… like you(sheesh, I hope that phrase doesn’t catch on) I can’t stand cigarette smoke, but in as much as we were seated at the bar I opted to take a cigarillo along for my own enjoyment. I had no sooner lit the stick(literally, a stick) than the bar tender came over and told me I must put the cigar out. I looked up and down the bar, and at least six other people were smoking, cigarettes. When I questioned her on this, she said it was the restaurant’s policy to not allow cigars until 10:00pm… and I had chosen to light up at the most unseemly hour of 9:35pm.

Unbelievable.

http://pages.frederick.com/dining/tasting.htm

[JMH]

Besides Davidoff and rollies, I cannot stand the smell of cigs. Even these two are pushing it. I just don't understand how cigar smokers can be victimised by cig smokers. I'm sure I'll have a few names to add here soon. There have been a few bars around where the air has literally been hazy with cig smoke, and I've been told that I can't smoke a cigar.

To those cig smokers who hate cigars: Sorry for smoking pure unadulterated high quality tobacco instead of off-cuts and stems loaded with chemicals and rolled with paper

[maestro]

Their support needs more support. It needs direction. An editor. A publisher. It needs the kind of direction only an above the fold story would offer.

Enter our great idea factories that keep us going:

The LA Times.

The Times

The AP

A cigar, according to several Health experts, is 70x more powerful than a cigarette. Since we all know cigarette users die 10 years early, by the time you hit the Winnebago in your trip to see every Walmart in the country, you will be in your last throes while the cigarette smokers kick back a champagne chaser and master the two drag puff.

This is serious. A measure too bold and too interesting to be left to the fringe who picket against GM foods, who deliver the skunk eye in the general direction of the lit crowd, and who cast a sympathetic glance at the children whose nearby Ritalin induced lives are placed in jeopardy.

I don't understand how a writer can see the growth of cigar consumption and not think about the frequency with which cigar smokers use or even why the ranks of cigar smokers are expanding (After years of cigarette education and the elimination of the cartoon figures, to their dismay, the people did not get the message and could have switched habits right underneath their children’s noses)

Apparently one man's pile of cigarettes is another man's cigar.

Even by their logic, I don't understand smoking bans in general:

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=663&id=216342004

"Smoking outdoors, in different rooms or when non-smokers are absent does not completely protect non-smokers from tobacco smoke."

Complete protection...There's a concept science has dealt well with over the years with its laundry list of side effects and lifetime customers.

It's not that cigar smoking is bad; it's just that it’s absent of some life saving purpose that say, 20 cigarettes would have.

[Duckguy]

I can't name a specific location but when I visited Madison, WI recently there was not one establishment other than a cigar store that you could smoke in. Every bar was off limits; what a bummer. They said it had hurt business given that there was a nearby town where it was allowed.

I understand some of the logic, but damn. And I've also been told to put out my cigar in an establishment where cigarettes were allowed. That made zero sense to me.

[idesign]

I've never understood the logic behind cigarettes yay, cigars nay....just doesn't even come close to making any sense.

[Shooter]

I've toyed with the idea of finding one of these "Cigarette only" places and taking out my own "Marlboro Culebra"---twenty cigarettes bound together to make one HUGE smoke---and torching the puppy up! Now let's just see what kind of disgusting smoke volume I can produce with that "Permissable" stick!

"Hey--it's just a "cigarette"."

[habanohal]

» I've toyed with the idea of finding one of these "Cigarette only" places

» and taking out my own "Marlboro Culebra"---twenty cigarettes bound

» together to make one HUGE smoke---and torching the puppy up! Now let's

» just see what kind of disgusting smoke volume I can produce with that

» "Permissable" stick!

»

» "Hey--it's just a "cigarette"."

I am the kind of guy that gets some cheap laughs. If someone in a bar or somewhere commplains, I leave , come back with a can of FART spray and let it go LOLOLOL

:-D :-D

Thatll teachem that cigars smell better in comparison

[idesign]

» I've toyed with the idea of finding one of these "Cigarette only" places

» and taking out my own "Marlboro Culebra"---twenty cigarettes bound

» together to make one HUGE smoke---and torching the puppy up! Now let's

» just see what kind of disgusting smoke volume I can produce with that

» "Permissable" stick!

»

» "Hey--it's just a "cigarette"."

LMFAO.....that's hilarious

[Black Plague]

» i can understand all the non smoking laws etc etc etc, as, to be honest, i

» hate cigarette smoke - never had one and never will. think they are a

» blight.

» a lot of people don't understand how one can differentiate between cigars

» and cigarettes but leaving that aside, i am establishing this hall of

» shame for bars, clubs, pubs, you name it, that do something beyond the

» norm.

» first up is one of my otherwise favourite restaurant/bars - shuck at main

» beach (i have told scotty - owner and a good mate - that he is about to be

» so inducted).

» shuck, under pressure from imbeciles with too much money and no taste -

» and please refrain from pointing out that such a description doesn't

» really narrow the crowd on the coast - and more specifically cigarette

» smokers, has banned cigars.

» cigarettes are fine but cigars are not. cigarette smokers don't like the

» smell. shakespeare was wrong. first, we should kill all the idiots. the

» world has gone mad.

» please feel free to induct any other establishments that need it.

I do smoke cigarettes and cigars, but I do understand how some people feel about smoke. But I think smoking bans aren't the way to go around it.

I like the solution some cities here in the US have taken. Many restaurants now have seperate sections for smoking and non-smoking closed off from each other with their own ventilation systems so that those who don't want to smell smoke don't have to.

Other cities have passed bans that disallow smoking in places like office buildings and restaurants, but still allow it in bars (which is ok with me, you aren't going to the pub for your health anyway, are you? I'm sure not! :-P ).

But I hate the total bans because its an infringement (in my opinion) on a business owner's right to run his business the way he sees fit.

Of course, some, like the Irish, have gotten around indoor bans by just knocking out a wall, building a patio, and putting heaters out there in the winter. I have to give a big thumbs-up to the ingenuity of our Celtic brethren!

[Duckguy]

That's some funny chit right there!:-D :-D

» I've toyed with the idea of finding one of these "Cigarette only" places

» and taking out my own "Marlboro Culebra"---twenty cigarettes bound

» together to make one HUGE smoke---and torching the puppy up! Now let's

» just see what kind of disgusting smoke volume I can produce with that

» "Permissable" stick!

»

» "Hey--it's just a "cigarette"."

[badhangover]

I have definitely gotta add Las Vegas to this list. Every single casino. Sin city allows indoor smoking, of course. Cigars are allowed only in "common areas". I enjoy playing "table games". The BlackJack/21 tables, for instance. The entire table full of players can be double fisted with cigarettes, but as soon as I whip out a cigar, I'm the bad guy. I hate that. The poker rooms are entirely smoke-free, but I'm ok with that, 'cause that's at least not discriminating against cigars.