BrightonCorgi Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, earthson said: I'm okay with light cigars, but light flavors sounds unappealing. Still, tobacco varietals have evolved since the lonsdales were last available. I don't know. Maybe we should just ready ourselves for another way-overpriced Petit robusto or montesco. ? If Habanos names a cigar after an existing cigar, the new release should taste similar IMO. I'd like to see an ERDM belicoso; that would be neat.
Lotusguy Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 Russian distributor asked me the same. They even told me it's possible to make multi local marka for ER Rusia. One of those.Отправлено с моего ONEPLUS A5000 через TapatalkThey should be asking you - after all, didn’t you singlehandedly sell 1/3 or more of the hermitage RE? 1
Toast & Taste Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 @Elpresidente - sell them the rights to yer nudies. Por Larranaga bands. 12's, 24's, and cabs of 52. I'll require 2% of gross sales as remuneration for this cracker idea. Big Al 1
Piligrim Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 They should be asking you - after all, didn’t you singlehandedly sell 1/3 or more of the hermitage RE?Not yet, more than 700 boxes for now, but still selling a lot Отправлено с моего ONEPLUS A5000 через Tapatalk 1
oliverdst Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Punch Super Robusto 2006 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Dobles 50 x 155 (6.1") Robusto Extra Ramón Allones Estupendos 2006 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Julieta No.2 47 x 178 (7") Churchill Por Larrañaga Robustos de Larranaga 2007 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Robustos 50 x 124 (4.9") Robusto Bolívar Short Bolivar 2008 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Petit Edmundo 52 x 110 (4.3") Petit Robusto Por Larrañaga Belicosos Extra 2008 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Campanas 52 x 140 (5.5") Pyramid Ramón Allones Celestiales Finos 2009 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Británicas 46 x 137 (5.4") Perfecto Saint Luis Rey Pacificos 2009 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Pirámides 52 x 156 (6.1") Pyramid Juan López Selección No.4 2010 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Pirámides 52 x 156 (6.1") Pyramid Por Larrañaga Encantos 2010 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Dalias 43 x 170 (6.7") Lonsdale Punch Sabrosos 2011 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Pirámides 52 x 156 (6.1") Pyramid Quai d'Orsay Superiores 2011 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Robustos 50 x 124 (4.9") Robusto El Rey del Mundo Aniversario 2012 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Geniales 54 x 150 (5.9") Robusto Extra La Flor de Cano Grandiosos 2013 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Edmundo 52 x 135 (5.3") Robusto Diplomáticos Bushido 2014 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Nro.109 50 x 184 (7.2") Double Robusto La Gloria Cubana Revolution 2015 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Montesco 55 x 130 (5.1") Robusto Rafael González 88 2016 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Británicas Extra 48 x 137 (5.4") Perfecto Bolívar Silver Jubilee 2017 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Gordito con Cabeza Tumbada 50 x 141 (5.6") Robusto Extra Ramón Allones Silver Jubilee 2017 - Edición Regional Asia Pacifico Montesco 55 x 130 (5.1") Robusto table source: CCW Mean 51 x 145 Median 51 x 141 From the last 5 years Mean 52 x 144 Median 50 x 137 Thickest (all time): 55 Longest (all time): 184 If I were PCC I would go with a Por Larranaga 56x160 - lacquered 20ct and 88 special boxes with 88 cigars Medium to strong strenght with sweet retrotaste. 2
in0gravity Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I would love to see the Diplomaticos No 7 againRegardsLars Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk 2
Kaptain Karl Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 With so many thick regular production cigars coming out, whats the point of a yet another fat RE? 898, lonsdale or a lancero will definitely stand out in with what's currently being produced. 1
nKostyan Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 With so many thick regular production cigars coming out, whats the point of a yet another fat RE? 898, lonsdale or a lancero will definitely stand out in with what's currently being produced. Not all tobacco makes a thin cigar. The more leaves in the cross section, the more diverse the cigars can be created.
Colt45 Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, nKostyan said: Not all tobacco makes a thin cigar. The more leaves in the cross section, the more diverse the cigars can be created. Perhaps... The larger the ring gauge, the more tobacco - obviously. But how is it filled? Lots of seco and volado? Ligero bomb? I know thicker cigars can be properly blended, but my personal thought is that it ends up being more of an aesthetic. A thinner cigar uses less leaves, but can often be no less, if not more, complex. For me a thinner cigar almost always has a more intense delivery of flavor. 2 1
Stump89 Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Run with me on this one.... Culebras! Whatever marca you want, but culebras, like the Partagas. Underrated cigars, cool and functional shape, smoke alone, smoke with 2 friends, etc. Prices would probably be reasonable-ish. What's not to like?
fabes Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I propose a QdO Lonsdale. Second choice, QdO Corona Gorda. Both capitalize on the QdO hype and are vitolas I enjoy. Don’t care how many in a box, just want SBN box at a reasonable price. 2
Lotusguy Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I have another idea: make more Punch Sir David and price them reasonably 4
nKostyan Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Colt45 said: Perhaps... The larger the ring gauge, the more tobacco - obviously. But how is it filled? Lots of seco and volado? Ligero bomb? I know thicker cigars can be properly blended, but my personal thought is that it ends up being more of an aesthetic. A thinner cigar uses less leaves, but can often be no less, if not more, complex. For me a thinner cigar almost always has a more intense delivery of flavor. Each brand has a distinctive taste because it is tobacco from the same plantations every year. But tobacco is not only different in leaf type, each small farm (vegas) has a slightly different taste. Combining tobacco ligador corrects the mixture every year for regular cigars, because the taste of tobacco is also affected by the weather and etc, which is slightly different every year. You may note that not all brands have thin cigars in their regular portfolio. This is also due to the fact that it is difficult to create a good blend limiting the format from the existing set of leaves. Therefore, if you request a regional cigar of a thin format, it is better to do it for a brand that has a similar format in a regular one. I in principle consider not correct to set a format at the order of the regional. It's like limiting an artist to the size and theme of a painting. On the contrary, the Creator of the cigar has to offer a format for which he can choose a good mixture.
ChanceSchmerr Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 3:20 AM, Colt45 said: A thinner cigar uses less leaves, but can often be no less, if not more, complex. For me a thinner cigar almost always has a more intense delivery of flavor. Preach, brother!
NSXCIGAR Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 12:20 PM, Colt45 said: I know thicker cigars can be properly blended, but my personal thought is that it ends up being more of an aesthetic. I'm not positive but I would speculate that a larger RG necessitates more volado to burn properly. I will say that in the past it seems the larger RG cigars were more likely to be strong. Until 2000 cigars like BCG, Punch DC, RAG, Monte 2 and many Robustos could be much stronger than their smaller RG counterparts. The recent trend however is for larger RG cigars to be milder in general. I'm not sure if this is an intentional blend decision due to demand for milder, larger cigars or to insure proper combustion. That being said, I don't think anyone who smokes CCs regularly could argue that smaller RG cigars are any less strong or complex than many of the large RG CCs.
Colt45 Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said: I will say that in the past it seems the larger RG cigars were more likely to be strong. Until 2000 cigars like BCG, Punch DC, RAG, Monte 2 and many Robustos could be much stronger than their smaller RG counterparts. The recent trend however is for larger RG cigars to be milder in general. This brings up another thought I had at the time, but did not ask about... Generally, but perhaps more so relatively recently, does the MCC (monopoly of Cuban cigars) decide on a size first, then come up with a blend, or do they come up with a blend and then determine what they believe an appropriate ring gauge...
... Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 I can see a PL selling well. Would be interesting to see a skinny salomon, same length but 52 rg at its thickest point with a more subtle taper towards the head...
NSXCIGAR Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Jeanff said: I can see a PL selling well. Would be interesting to see a skinny salomon, same length but 52 rg at its thickest point with a more subtle taper towards the head... That would be a Romeo vitola (Cuaba Distinguidos, Boli Tesoros). 3 hours ago, Colt45 said: Generally, but perhaps more so relatively recently, does the MCC (monopoly of Cuban cigars) decide on a size first, then come up with a blend, or do they come up with a blend and then determine what they believe an appropriate ring gauge... Lord only knows, but most likely the vitola comes first as that's the limiting factor. But I could imagine a case where they have a blend in mind that only works with a large RG. Personally, I can't recall smoking any large RG cigar recently and thinking wow, this level of complexity could only be achieved with this large RG. It's not like a Trini Vigia is twice as complex as a Reyes. At least recently, I feel larger RG just means more volado. I should take 4 El Principes and have Carlos Fernandez take them apart and make it into a Robusto Extra and see how it smokes!
bpm32 Posted March 17, 2019 Posted March 17, 2019 Who are we kidding?—this is Asia Pacific.... The new regional should be a Punch Double Happiness: 88 ring gauge cigar in boxes of 8. Will taste like a dog turd unless it’s been aged 80 years.
in0gravity Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 1:46 PM, in0gravity said: I would love to see the Diplomaticos No 7 again Regards Lars Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk A second thought, if Pacific Cigar can convince the Cubans to make a longfiller Quintero as a Regional Cigar I would love to see a Quintero Churchill (Julieta No. 2). regards Lars
CaptainQuintero Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, in0gravity said: A second thought, if Pacific Cigar can convince the Cubans to make a longfiller Quintero as a Regional Cigar I would love to see a Quintero Churchill (Julieta No. 2). regards Lars I think it would be only me and you buying
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