Popular Post Puros Y Vino Posted January 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Greetings all. A while back I was doing some inventory and decided to measure the dimensions of many of the boxes I had. Why? For calculating storage volume needs for humidor cabinets. I figured I'd throw out my current list and if anyone here is interested, they can add some too. And should this list grow, I'll put it under the FOHRence sub forum for easy reference. Without further ado, here's the current list. So, if you're ever feeling bored or just have happened to picked up some new boxes of cigars, (Cuban only of course), maybe take a few minutes to measure them and post your data here. I'll update the main post every few weeks and hide the entries I've added to the list. Please take the measurements in Centimeters, or convert them if you used Imperial. There are 4 four fields. Box (with type of package) | Width | Height | Depth In the box field, identify which marca and cigar it is and whether if it's a dress box, cabinet, petaca, etc. Google Doc Editable Spreadsheet (new link. Add your entries directly to the "UserAdds" tab) *NOTE. Feel free to help by filling in the blanks below or by adding something you don't see! Box Width (front facing) Height Depth (length) Behike 52 24.2 4.8 16 Behike 54 25 5 18.3 Behike 56 26 5 20.6 Bolivar Gold Medals Bolivar Belicosos Finos (db) 27 4.8 15.5 Bolivar Coronas Junior 21.5 4 12.5 Boliver Royal Corona Cohiba 1966 Cohiba Esplendido 26 4.7 20 Cohiba Exquisitos 19.1 3.8 14.6 Cohiba Lancero Cohiba Lanceros 21.6 4 21.5 Cohiba Piramides EL 2006 Cohiba Piramides Extra Cohiba Robusto (25 slb) Cohiba Siglo I (25 slb) 10.9 8.3 11.2 Cohiba Siglo VI (25 slb) Cohiba Siglo VI (10 slb) 11.5 5.2 16.5 Diplomaticos No 2 26.8 4.9 17.1 Diplomaticos No 4 22 4 14.2 Diplomaticos No 7 14.6 6 17 El Rey del Mundo Choix Supreme 25 4.4 14.1 El Rey del Mundo Infantes 20.2 2.9 14 El Rey del Mundo Tainos 25.5 5 19.4 H Upmann Noellas Jar H Upmann Royal Robusto 21.5 3.2 15 Hoyo De Monterry Dieux (slb) 11.4 8.7 17 Hoyo De Monterry Du Dauphin Hoyo De Monterry Du Gourmet Hoyo De Monterry Palmas Extra H Upmann Connie A Juan Lopez S No 2 La Escepcion Selectos Finos (25 db) La Escepcion Selectos Finos (jar) La Escepcion Don Jose (db) 25.1 4.3 14 La Flor de Cano AP RE Grandiosos 11.5 5.2 15.2 La Flor Del Cano Grandiosos La Gloria Cubana Deliciosos Jar La Gloria Cubana Inmenso La Gloria Cubana MdO No 2 Los Statos Delux Cremas Montecristo 520 22.6 3.3 17 Montecristo Esp No 1 Montecristo Gran Edmundo 21.2 3 15.6 Montecristo No 4 21.8 3.8 14.4 Montecristo Sublimes Ramon Allones 898 16.6 5.6 18.7 Partagas 898 16.6 5.6 18.7 Partagas Culebra (outer box) 17.4 5.8 16.8 Partagas E2 (5 slb) 12 3.2 15.7 Partagas Lusitania (25 db) 25.5 4.5 20.7 Partagas Selection Privada EL 2014 20.7 3 17.6 Partagas SDC No1 Peter Schuyler Perfectos Por Larranaga Picadores Partagas Serie D No 4 Punch Double Corona 50 cab 19 13.2 21 Punch Gran Robusto RE Spain 21.2 3.3 17.2 Punch Punch (25 db) Quai D'Orsay Coronas 23 4.5 15.7 Quai D'Orsay Imperiales 25.5 4.8 19.3 Quai D'Orsay Panatelas Quintero Panatellas Ramon Allones Extras LE 2011 Ramon Allones Gorditos Ramon Allones Robusto Corta (paises bajo) 13.3 10.2 12 Ramon Allones Super Ramon RE 2011 Canada Ramon Allones Superiores Ramon Allones Celestiales Finos 13 10 15.5 Raman Allones Panatelas 18.5 3.3 14.4 Ramon Allones 898 Ramon Allones Grandes 9.8 7 19.6 Ramon Allones Small Club Corona Ramon Allones Specially Selected (25 db) Ramon Allones Specially Selected (50 cab) 19.2 13.3 14 RyJ Cazadores 17.7 9.5 11.4 RyJ Cazadores Trinidad Fundadores Trinidad Ingenios Trinidad Robusto Extra Trinidad Robusto T (12) Trinidad Robusto T (24) Vegas Robaina Unicos Vegas Robaina XV Aniversario RE Canada 2011 Edited May 15, 2023 by Puros Y Vino Updatded Google doc link. 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJRPorter Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I’m seeing a pattern here... Before reading this I had attempted to place a box of Bolivar Libertador in my cooler. It’s a leaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prodigy Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Excel would be a lot easier to look at/interpret. Cool idea.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post houdini Posted January 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2019 Coolidors down to 2 shelves LOL. Im a Tetris Master! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_jack Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 You need more cow bell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliverdst Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Few years ago I had the feeling of starting a little program to calculate the best way to accommodate all the boxes in the space you have (aka inside your humidor(s)). Had to pass as I completely forgot how to start something like that (long gone my time of engineer). Basically would be a "professional Tetris": Give your humidor dimensions and all the boxes dimensions you have and voilá you will have the optimum way to put them together without wasting any cm. Maybe someone out there with time and knowledge can do it. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseAMuffin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I have measurements but they dont look right. I converted inches to cm but my boxes would be tiny compared to what you have listed. Here goes! Romeo y Julieta Short Churchill (10 cnt box) W = 3.2 cm H = 0.4 cm L = 2.2 cm Por Larranaga Monte Carlo (25 cnt box) W = 2.7 cm H = 0.5 cm L = 2.7 cm Fonseca No. 1 (25 cnt box) W = 3.6 cm H = 0.7 cm L = 2.8 cm Let me know if I messed up. Seems like I did. Edit: Just realized...were you only looking for data on the blanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puros Y Vino Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 12 hours ago, prodigy said: Excel would be a lot easier to look at/interpret. Cool idea. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk That's the origin of the doc. I copy/pasted it here for ease. Will update the original sheet as more entries come in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puros Y Vino Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 11 hours ago, MooseAMuffin said: I have measurements but they dont look right. I converted inches to cm but my boxes would be tiny compared to what you have listed. Here goes! Romeo y Julieta Short Churchill (10 cnt box) W = 3.2 cm H = 0.4 cm L = 2.2 cm Por Larranaga Monte Carlo (25 cnt box) W = 2.7 cm H = 0.5 cm L = 2.7 cm Fonseca No. 1 (25 cnt box) W = 3.6 cm H = 0.7 cm L = 2.8 cm Let me know if I messed up. Seems like I did. Edit: Just realized...were you only looking for data on the blanks? I think you messed up. Those #'s are way too low. Measure in inches and then use your calculator conversion function or Google for the conversion. For instance. "11.5 inches in cm" . Google will pop out the correct conversion. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oliverdst Posted January 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2019 11 hours ago, MooseAMuffin said: I have measurements but they dont look right. I converted inches to cm but my boxes would be tiny compared to what you have listed. Here goes! Romeo y Julieta Short Churchill (10 cnt box) W = 3.2 cm H = 0.4 cm L = 2.2 cm Por Larranaga Monte Carlo (25 cnt box) W = 2.7 cm H = 0.5 cm L = 2.7 cm Fonseca No. 1 (25 cnt box) W = 3.6 cm H = 0.7 cm L = 2.8 cm Let me know if I messed up. Seems like I did. Edit: Just realized...were you only looking for data on the blanks? DAMN!! It looks like more a small dick contest! Mr Romeo, you are the winner. Sorry, Ms Julieta. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseAMuffin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, bundwallah said: I think you messed up. Those #'s are way too low. Measure in inches and then use your calculator conversion function or Google for the conversion. For instance. "11.5 inches in cm" . Google will pop out the correct conversion. ? Gaaaaah, I divided instead of multiplied. I'll update them when I get home, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseAMuffin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, oliverdst said: DAMN!! It looks like more a small dick contest! Mr Romeo, you are the winner. Sorry, Ms Julieta. I mean...the numbers aren't that tiny...right? ☺️ Asking for a friend ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derboesekoenig Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 You guys are committed! I'll give you that. Just buy more storage ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseAMuffin Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 23 hours ago, MooseAMuffin said: I have measurements but they dont look right. I converted inches to cm but my boxes would be tiny compared to what you have listed. Here goes! Romeo y Julieta Short Churchill (10 cnt box) W = 20.9 cm H = 2.9 cm L = 14 cm Por Larranaga Monte Carlo (25 cnt box) W = 17.5 cm H = 3.3 cm L = 17.5 cm Fonseca No. 1 (25 cnt box) W = 23.5 cm H = 4.3 cm L = 18.3 cm Let me know if I messed up. Seems like I did. Edit: Just realized...were you only looking for data on the blanks? Edited my calculations above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rckymtn22 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Monte Petit Edmundo 10ctn H = 3.3 L = 12.7 W = 22.1 RA Superiors H = 2.9 L= 16.2 W = 19.4 Boli GM H = 2.7 L= 18.1 W = 17.9 Party P #2 10ctn H = 3.4 L = 17.1 W = 22 Monte #2 10ctn H = 2.8 L = 17.2 W = 21.1 HU Noella (box) H = 22 L = 14.5 W = 14.5 LGC Deliciosos jar (box) H = 22 L = 16.1 W = 16.1 Diplomaticos Nortenos H = 3.1 L = 14.1 W = 20.7 Monte Esp #2 H = 4.2 L = 17 W = 20.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteando Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I was looking for a good excuse to dig out that box of Peter Schuyler perfectos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Had to play a little coolidor tetris, so did a few measurements while I was at it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfica_77 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 This is a great initiative that I was hoping to bump and keep it going! Was hoping to get box dimensions for the following: PLPC 50 cab, RYJ Wide Churchills box of 25 and Monte No.2 box of 25. Thanks!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 If anyone has the Fundadores box dimensions, hook a BOTL up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMcLean68 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 On 10/30/2019 at 2:48 AM, benfica_77 said: This is a great initiative that I was hoping to bump and keep it going! Was hoping to get box dimensions for the following: PLPC 50 cab, RYJ Wide Churchills box of 25 and Monte No.2 box of 25. Thanks!! Montecristo No.2 (25 ct dress box): W=27.4 H=4.9 D=17.1 PLPC 50 cab: W=16.4 H=11.5 D=14.5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMcLean68 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 On 1/8/2019 at 11:49 AM, oliverdst said: Few years ago I had the feeling of starting a little program to calculate the best way to accommodate all the boxes in the space you have (aka inside your humidor(s)). Had to pass as I completely forgot how to start something like that (long gone my time of engineer). Basically would be a "professional Tetris": Give your humidor dimensions and all the boxes dimensions you have and voilá you will have the optimum way to put them together without wasting any cm. Maybe someone out there with time and knowledge can do it. Anyone? The packing problem is not all that trivial an application. It is classified as an NP-hard problem in computational complexity theory. Like many problems like this these days, there is an existing tool, in this case called "BurrTools" that could be adapted. Its designed for solving burr puzzles and also packing puzzles like the Soma Cube. A clever and powerful application in which you just need to specify the shape and size of each piece and the final size and shape of the container and let it find the solution(s). These solutions can then be animated with a slider in 3D. For burrs (not really relevant to packing puzzles like the Soma cube or a humidor), it can order the solutions by most or least total moves, or the most or least moves for the first piece. For the humidor problem (formally known as the "knapsack problem"), it would need to be adapted to be able to specify a solution ordering based on packing density. Developed by a very clever Russian programmer called Andreas Röver. Its free on SourceForge and the code is available if anyone wants to give it a crack. I would if I had the time and motivation, but alas I don't have either to disappear down that rabbit hole! It would be a bit of work to adapt to make it suitable for easily selecting and identifying cigar boxes, and to allow a finer cell size selection, and also to add packing density as mentioned above, as it is based on puzzle pieces currently. Being a puzzler solver, for packing problems it currently only looks for a solution with 100% packing density, i..e THE solution to the puzzle. The application is currently much more powerful for burr puzzles especially multiple move ("holey") burrs. Would require someone with C++ programming skills, and a good understanding of combinatorial optimization and group theory. Its not as simple as Tetris. I've programmed Tetris from scratch on a few different platforms myself, but remember, the Tetris game doesn't have a clue about how to optimally play the game. The player does that! The only things in Tetris that are challenging to code for are in reality mostly trivial really, and consist of optimised collision detection, implementing proper "random bag" selection logic for next piece selection, and line completion logic, and none of these are anywhere near as challenging as the packing problem itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDGSN Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Benson said: If anyone has the Fundadores box dimensions, hook a BOTL up! I’ll do this tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDGSN Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 1:07 PM, Benson said: If anyone has the Fundadores box dimensions, hook a BOTL up! 8 and 3/8 inches long 4 and 3/8 inches across 3 inches tall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connoisseur Kim Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 On 1/8/2019 at 7:37 AM, bundwallah said: Box Width (front facing) Height Depth (length) Behike 52 24.2 4.8 16 Behike 54 25 5 18.3 Behike 56 26 5 20.6 Bolivar Gold Medals Bolivar Belicosos Finos (db) 27 4.8 15.5 Bolivar Coronas Junior 21.5 4 12.5 Boliver Royal Corona Cohiba 1966 Cohiba Esplendido 26 4.7 20 Cohiba Exquisitos 19.1 3.8 14.6 Cohiba Lancero Cohiba Lanceros 21.6 4 21.5 Cohiba Piramides EL 2006 Cohiba Piramides Extra Cohiba Robusto (25 slb) Cohiba Siglo I (25 slb) 10.9 8.3 11.2 Cohiba Siglo VI (25 slb) Cohiba Siglo VI (10 slb) 11.5 5.2 16.5 Diplomaticos No 2 26.8 4.9 17.1 Diplomaticos No 4 22 4 14.2 Diplomaticos No 7 14.6 6 17 El Rey del Mundo Choix Supreme 25 4.4 14.1 El Rey del Mundo Infantes 20.2 2.9 14 El Rey del Mundo Tainos 25.5 5 19.4 H Upmann Noellas Jar H Upmann Royal Robusto 21.5 3.2 15 Hoyo De Monterry Dieux (slb) 11.4 8.7 17 Hoyo De Monterry Du Dauphin Hoyo De Monterry Du Gourmet Hoyo De Monterry Palmas Extra H Upmann Connie A Juan Lopez S No 2 La Escepcion Selectos Finos (25 db) La Escepcion Selectos Finos (jar) La Escepcion Don Jose (db) 25.1 4.3 14 La Flor de Cano AP RE Grandiosos 11.5 5.2 15.2 La Flor Del Cano Grandiosos La Gloria Cubana Deliciosos Jar La Gloria Cubana Inmenso La Gloria Cubana MdO No 2 Los Statos Delux Cremas Montecristo 520 22.6 3.3 17 Montecristo Esp No 1 Montecristo Gran Edmundo 21.2 3 15.6 Montecristo No 4 21.8 3.8 14.4 Montecristo Sublimes Ramon Allones 898 16.6 5.6 18.7 Partagas 898 16.6 5.6 18.7 Partagas Culebra (outer box) 17.4 5.8 16.8 Partagas E2 (5 slb) 12 3.2 15.7 Partagas Lusitania (25 db) 25.5 4.5 20.7 Partagas Selection Privada EL 2014 20.7 3 17.6 Partagas SDC No1 Peter Schuyler Perfectos Por Larranaga Picadores Partagas Serie D No 4 Punch Double Corona 50 cab 19 13.2 21 Punch Gran Robusto RE Spain 21.2 3.3 17.2 Punch Punch (25 db) Quai D'Orsay Coronas 23 4.5 15.7 Quai D'Orsay Imperiales 25.5 4.8 19.3 Quai D'Orsay Panatelas Quintero Panatellas Ramon Allones Extras LE 2011 Ramon Allones Gorditos Ramon Allones Robusto Corta (paises bajo) 13.3 10.2 12 Ramon Allones Super Ramon RE 2011 Canada Ramon Allones Superiores Ramon Allones Celestiales Finos 13 10 15.5 Raman Allones Panatelas 18.5 3.3 14.4 Ramon Allones 898 Ramon Allones Grandes 9.8 7 19.6 Ramon Allones Small Club Corona Ramon Allones Specially Selected (25 db) Ramon Allones Specially Selected (50 cab) 19.2 13.3 14 RyJ Cazadores 17.7 9.5 11.4 RyJ Cazadores Trinidad Fundadores Trinidad Ingenios Trinidad Robusto Extra Trinidad Robusto T (12) Trinidad Robusto T (24) Vegas Robaina Unicos Vegas Robaina XV Aniversario RE Canada 2011 Glad to see this project is still alive! Is this measurement displayed in inches or cm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puros Y Vino Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, LonesomeHabanoAficionado said: Glad to see this project is still alive! Is this measurement displayed in inches or cm? It's in centimetres. Glad to see people sending updates. Which means, I should update the table too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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