toledo1969 Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 So I don't know if it's because of the Winter Season or the Dry Humidity, but lately I have been getting more and more canker sores each time I smoke Habanos. There must be a reason and a good solution. I tried using mouthwash after smoking. A friend told me that it's because for the Cigar and Scotch combination, since I like to Smoke my Habanos with a nice Single Malt with a big Ice Cube ( I know it's not the proper way, but that's how I like it) but going back to my problem, just makes it uncomfortable. Like last night I had a Cohiba Piramide from the Seleccion Reserva and my cold sores just made it almost impossible to enjoy the taste, especially when you get them on your tongue. So any solutions or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
ponfed Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 That is not a thing. Either it's an infection, or your mouth really needs a break. Anyway go see a doctor. At least take a break and get some OTC antibiotic mouthrinse. 3
apollo Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 Are you speaking of cold sores or canker sores? I’ve heard of folks getting cankers from smoking, but not cold sores.
Eland Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, db13 said: In my experience this type of thing is something internal in my your body causing the cold sores exacerbated by the smoking (smoking + drinking alcohol is the worst thing for your immune system. db13 beat me to it.
steelcity Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 I think you're asking the wrong people and should talk to someone with the initials Dr. 1
El Presidente Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 See a doc for sure. it could be the Scotch!.....the humble cigar gets blamed for so many things Buy some concentrated ginger powder (no additives). half teaspoon in water and mix. Rinse/swirl around mouth for a minute. gargle and swallow. I do this every day. It will likely be gone in two days. thank me later 1 1
BrightonCorgi Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 Maybe you have a ph imbalance? Try baking soda and warm water mouth rinse or brushing with just baking soda.
MD Puffer Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 Ask your PMD to Rx "magic mouthwash" (specifically ask for the addition of 4% viscous lidocaine). Magic mouthwash is a generic term and there's a hundred iterations of it. For canker sores he/she will likely add a steroid as well. Swish/gargle/spit- no canker sore pain. Regardless, he/she is going to tell you to lay off the cigars no matter what. Keeping hydrated or taking a daily multivitamin may help, but there's honestly not any treatment other than symptomatic relief.. Edit: I'm assuming you're stateside. I have no idea what they call magic mouthwash elsewhere.
Guybrush Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2999509/
MD Puffer Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 6 hours ago, Guybrush said: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2999509/ What are you trying to say with this journal article citation?
cigcars Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 ** My doctor is constantly warning me about "practicing without a license"...'You'll go to jail!' So I don't purport to be a "doctor" here...however, I do know folks who get those mouth sores, be they 'canker' or 'cold sores' due to, indeed as loosleaf mentioned, a possible herpes infection...sorry. Also, an antibiotic sounds like the ideal thing to clear that up. I truly wouldn't think it was due to your cigars OR your bourbon/whiskey intake. If anything, that alcohol should clear up a lot of 'dirty little buggers' trying to attack your orifice, IMHO. And just FYI...natural herbal Echinacea, Goldenseal, and Myrrh are nature's infection fighters on par with medical Penicillin. Myrrh is especially recommended for mouth sores. I've only taken capsule form for colds and cough, so I think they're talking about gargling or swishing it in your mouth. Also, there's an over the counter mouth sore fighter, Peroxyl which has peroxide as its main ingredient. Again, I don't mean to play "technical nurse" here, just a few mentions and 'for your info' stuff here for your convenience. In the end, :Doctor Knows Best:
prodigy Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 ** My doctor is constantly warning me about "practicing without a license"...'You'll go to jail!' So I don't purport to be a "doctor" here...however, I do know folks who get those mouth sores, be they 'canker' or 'cold sores' due to, indeed as loosleaf mentioned, a possible herpes infection...sorry. Also, an antibiotic sounds like the ideal thing to clear that up. I truly wouldn't think it was due to your cigars OR your bourbon/whiskey intake. If anything, that alcohol should clear up a lot of 'dirty little buggers' trying to attack your orifice, IMHO. And just FYI...natural herbal Echinacea, Goldenseal, and Myrrh are nature's infection fighters on par with medical Penicillin. Myrrh is especially recommended for mouth sores. I've only taken capsule form for colds and cough, so I think they're talking about gargling or swishing it in your mouth. Also, there's an over the counter mouth sore fighter, Peroxyl which has peroxide as its main ingredient. Again, I don't mean to play "technical nurse" here, just a few mentions and 'for your info' stuff here for your convenience. In the end, :Doctor Knows Best: Herpes is a virus, antibiotics will have zero impact on a viral infection...Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk
cigcars Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, prodigy said: Herpes is a virus, antibiotics will have zero impact on a viral infection... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk *I had noted (very lay person-wise) only possible reasons for toledo's problem. Anti-biotics are for bacterial infections, I know. But again, the solutions suggestions were just - again suggestions about certain solutions he could look at. But again, I did end my little diatribe with "Doctor Knows Best." His problem could be viral; or not.
ponfed Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 I just wanted to add 2 things. 1st: Canker sores are indeed a thing. Separate from herpes (although they can look feel somewhat similar I read). I meant that it's not a thing that's caused by smoking, or drinking. At least, I never experienced it and never heard of anyone getting habitual sores from liquor and tobacco. 2nd: 10 hours ago, prodigy said: Herpes is a virus, antibiotics will have zero impact on a viral infection.. This is indeed correct as far as the duration of the sores are concerned. BUT, you basically have wounds in your mouth. An antibiotic rinse will prevent you getting secondary infections and allow these wounds to heal properly. Also if you may already have a bacterial infection which might exacerbate symptoms. That alone is a reason to see a doctor who could prescribe antibiotics. Or at least talk to a pharmacist. Also smoke is an irritant. Laying off cigars for a few days will help with discomfort and healing. I AM NOT A DOCTOR 1
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