RyviaUSA Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 I realize this question may make me come off as an uptight ahole. For that, I both apologize and will say it’s not my intention. I’ve only tried about 3 CCs so far, so my sample base isn’t large enough. I can only say I love what I’m experiencing. But I’ve tried easily over 50-75 of the non CCs here in the states. You walk in to a big cigar shop or get a nice 92+ rated sampler. I either have a really bizarre preference or the majority of this stuff is just terrible. Am I alone in this? I will say I have about 5 non-CCs that I like. But wow the number of forgettable trash is monumental. The scary part is that some of them are bragged about like they are “CC quality.”
RyviaUSA Posted September 2, 2018 Author Posted September 2, 2018 I just realized CC cigars doesn’t make sense. Lol off to a good start.
garbandz Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 ratings are subjective. I believe that sums it up. Nothing to see here. Move along. 3
BJRPorter Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 CC and NC ratings are based upon a number of factors. Your taste buds are only part of it, and what you taste, I may not. Keep trying both. 1
Popular Post El Presidente Posted September 2, 2018 Popular Post Posted September 2, 2018 I have great mates who prefer NC's. They have gone from 100% CC to 75% NC/25% CC. They have smoked thousands of cigars. NC suit them better. No problem there. To make such assertions on such a tiny sample base would be called "Bold" by some and far worse by others. I would be in the latter category. 7
MooseAMuffin Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 Most of the time anything "rated" or "taste like a Cuban" is done so for advertising purposes so they don't really mean jack. For me, there are plenty of NCs I enjoy. LFD, Padron, some DE, Room 101, Fuente, the list goes on. Smoke what you like, toss what dont like. 1
RyviaUSA Posted September 2, 2018 Author Posted September 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Min said: There are thousands of Non Cuban brands... so you will likely run into more crap.. I smoke both CC and NC.. Yeah good point.
Ericbrobes Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 I smoke both as well. As I have associated a lingering effect mostly with NCs I still enjoy both. I do tend to lean towards a CC if given the choice. 1
canadianbeaver Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 Welcome. Give a try to several brands from both and find out if you are a cc, nc or cc/nc lover. Imagine the journey you lucky smoker! It is up to you. CB
Jimmy_jack Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 There are some really great NC. You have to find them. The NC market is awash in short life span smokes, here today gone tomorrow.
joshhooper7 Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 Both variants are excellent and both variants can be terrible. With Cuban cigars, there are the major marcas and that's it; we're aware of what is bad because we can name them so we stay away. With non-Cuban cigars, or 'Free World' cigars, there are THOUSANDS of cigar marcas because the government does not regulate when a new brand can start up, so it's much harder to name the known-to-be bad ones. However, I will say, for the good non-Cuban cigars, quality consistency is insanely higher than the consistency that comes out of HSA. When a good Cuban is good, it's great; however, there are equal parts terrible Monte 2's as there are amazing Monte 2's. When it comes to quality non-Cubans like Davidoff, Padron, Opus etc., you know you're getting quality every time and no dice are rolled. Rolling the dice is half the fun for me, so I typically go with Cuban cigars, but when I want a guarantee I'll pick a non-Cuban 8 days a week. 2
SCgarman Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 17 hours ago, RyviaUSA said: I realize this question may make me come off as an uptight ahole. For that, I both apologize and will say it’s not my intention. I’ve only tried about 3 CCs so far, so my sample base isn’t large enough. I can only say I love what I’m experiencing. But I’ve tried easily over 50-75 of the non CCs here in the states. You walk in to a big cigar shop or get a nice 92+ rated sampler. I either have a really bizarre preference or the majority of this stuff is just terrible. Am I alone in this? I will say I have about 5 non-CCs that I like. But wow the number of forgettable trash is monumental. The scary part is that some of them are bragged about like they are “CC quality.” Most NC's are made utilize tobacco from 3 major countries. Dominican, Nicaraguan, and Honduras. Of course there are also puros that may come from one of these countries, but many NC's are just redundant, there are way too many brands and sizes to choose from and some just are very one dimensional and leave the taste of ash in your mouth. Of course, any cigar shop in the US is going to hype up what they sell. They are in business to make $$, and if you the customer are buying boxes of CC's off the net the cigar store gets none of your $$. They will also say the same about Cuban; they are all made from the same tobacco, all taste the same regardless of the band, and quality and consistency are sub par. 1
joshhooper7 Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 Gonna throw this out there and they'll probably be sold out before my wife can get me a box, but for our US brethren: https://www.neptunecigar.com/cigars/crowned-heads-le-careme-belicosos-finos-le-2018 15% off until midnight on Monday, only made 1500 boxes of 12 and can confirm it is a stellar cigar, even better when you're paying $7.65 per cigar.
luv2fly Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 I don't dislike NC. They were, early on, my usual smoke. Now many years later, I find them to be too strong and in general I don't care for the flavor. Some are dog rockets, crap just like some Cubans don't blow my skirt up. There are times that I envy those that can appreciate both. Those folks have a broader palate than I do. I would never fault someone that likes both or that likes only NC. It is all about what the individual likes. After all, it is really all about you and your likes. Nobody can tell you what you like or dislike. That is what I love about cigars. It is a personal journey. Enjoy! 2
luckme10 Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 For every '64 Padron you have one of these. It's a numbers game. 1
SCgarman Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 7 hours ago, luckme10 said: For every '64 Padron you have one of these. It's a numbers game. A wannabe! LOL
gtejada Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 As posted by MIN, there are hundreds if not thousands of non-CC out there you might of run into some bad ones. I can also tell you that I have run into several junk Cuban Cigars with the same lame excuse that "oh they must have been fake" NO, they were just bad!!! Not every Cuban Cigar is amazing. some are also lousy and overrated. You must think of the false ideal that has been subliminally ingrained in us about Cuban cigars over the years, that there is no better cigar no matter what...That is simply not true. Just like there have been some overrated steaks and/or meals at highly renowned restaurant you have eaten, there are overrated Cuban cigars and Non-CC. Keep trying both Cuban and non-Cubans with an open mind, palette and without any preconceived notions. That's how you will become a true Connoisseur and aficionado. 3
BG1165 Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 The US market is flooded with crap. You have to swim through it and find your taste. I am very much enjoying the efforts of Warped cigars. If you come across any of them, give them a shot. La Hacienda, Futuro and the La Colmena come to mind.
rguinn Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 The one thing I’ll give NC’s is they’re usually always consistent. Consistently bad or consistently good. Once you’ve tried one example you can pretty much make your decision on whether you like it or not. Cubans...not so much. It’s much more about construction and the batch of tabbacco that month/year from my experience, but more often than not I’ll find something to like about a good example of a CC. A bad example is typically just young or poorly constructed. I’m fond of most Fuente, Padron 64/26, Illusione and Oliva.
BeerPimp Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 It is crazy how many NC cigar brands there are out there now.
Pag Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 There's good NC's and good CC's. Price of a good to great NC's $15 and up. CC's good $4 and up. I will tell ya 1 thing I'd rather smoke a 2$ JLP cremas then any 2 dollar NC's . Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk
soonerwings Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 I usually smoke puros from Nicaragua and Cuba. CC is good with coffee in the morning and NC (Nicaragua) goes well with strong whiskies. Quoted for truth. If I’m drinking whiskey with a CC it’s a nice highland or Speyside scotch. If drinking whiskey with a Nicaraguan, it’s likely one of my favorite bourbons.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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