99call Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 55 minutes ago, luv2fly said: Call them what ever the heck you want. In the US if you ask for chips with your burger you will get chips/crisps. Ask for fries and you will get what you call chips. Thats just the way it is. We call them what we call them and so do you. We are not "amusing" ourselves by calling them fries. In another country, I would ask for them by using the local name for them. Simple. Power to you mate. I don't think anyone has a problem with Americans calling stuff whatever you want to call it, as long as they don't try and correct cultures that pre-date theirs. I think the frustrations stem from the fact that two languages exist at the moment 'English' and 'American English'. I think the sooner someone just calls your version 'American' the better, then you guys can do whatever you want with it.
luv2fly Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, 99call said: Power to you mate. I don't think anyone has a problem with Americans calling stuff whatever you want to call it, as long as they don't try and correct cultures that pre-date theirs. I think the frustrations stem from the fact that two languages exist at the moment 'English' and 'American English'. I think the sooner someone just calls your version 'American' the better, then you guys can do whatever you want with it. Personally I would never try to correct any culture. I can't speak for anyone else but I agree nobody should correct other cultures even if they pre-date the other culture. The fact that we have so many different cultures makes life intriguing IMHO. American English, that horse has been beaten to death already on another thread.
99call Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, luv2fly said: Personally I would never try to correct any culture. I can't speak for anyone else but I agree nobody should correct other cultures even if they pre-date the other culture. The fact that we have so many different cultures makes life intriguing IMHO. American English, that horse has been beaten to death already on another thread. Out of interest would you have any issue with American English being re-branded as 'American'. Is seems weird that there is a problem in the states with just calling it English. I would of thought for a very patriotic country, calling it 'American' would be ideal?
luv2fly Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, 99call said: Out of interest would you have any issue with American English being re-branded as 'American'. Is seems weird that there is a problem in the states with just calling it English. I would of thought for a very patriotic country, calling it 'American' would be ideal? Never really given it much thought. Don't think it will happen.
Colt45 Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 tomato sauce / ketchup chips / fries drive on the left side of the road / drive on the correct side of the road celebrate queen's birthday / shed the shackles of the crown long ago Enjoy your chips and sauce! 2
luv2fly Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 To answer your question, I would not want to change it. In the end it is English. No it is not the Queen's English. It is a different dialect here just as it is different in other parts of the world. Hell, its different across this country. I would not correct anyone that spoke a "different version" of English than me and I would expect the same in return. I don't view it as who is right and who is wrong. Language evolves. Wonder if George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and the others founding fathers would have a clue what we are saying if they were here. Plus, I like the differences. Kind of fun to hear.
99call Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Colt45 said: tomato sauce / ketchup chips / fries drive on the left side of the road / drive on the correct side of the road celebrate queen's birthday / shed the shackles of the crown long ago Enjoy your chips and sauce! ??????? I'm not sure if you are aware, but the single purpose of Monarchy these days is to ensure Americans turn up in their droves and get their pockets emptied. Yep you're right, I feel so oppressed Enjoy being represented by this guy
OB1 Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 I thought this was a light hearted conversation. Never thought people cared so personally about various forms of potatoe and tomato food products. Btw, I’m Canadian and speak the real English language.
Lotusguy Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 I thought this was a light hearted conversation. Never thought people cared so personally about various forms of potatoe and tomato food products. Btw, I’m Canadian and speak the real English language. Word, eh
OB1 Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 54 minutes ago, Lotusguy said: Word, eh Oddly enough, I live in Los Gatos and apparently your neighbor. small world, eh.
SCgarman Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 3 hours ago, OB1 said: I thought this was a light hearted conversation. Never thought people cared so personally about various forms of potatoe and tomato food products. Btw, I’m Canadian and speak the real English language. I thought Canadians spoke French? LOL
OB1 Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, NYgarman said: I thought Canadians spoke French? LOL Oui, Oui, eh. Real English and French languages are from Canada, non?
Ken Gargett Posted January 4, 2018 Author Posted January 4, 2018 6 hours ago, OB1 said: I thought this was a light hearted conversation. absolutely. and hopefully still is. sometimes the fact that we lose tone by the restrictions of the printed word means that ever-so-slight misunderstandings occur. 1
Smooth Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 03/01/2018 at 8:45 PM, Fuzz said: I used to get vinegar on my chips all the time. Most lunch shops no longer have it, though you can still get it at some fish & chips shops. As for tomato sauce vs ketchup, I grew up oon Fountain tomato sauce. Used in on burgers, chips, meat pies, etc. But there is a difference in taste between Fountain tomato sauce and Heinze Ketchup. So nowadays I tend to use ketchup on hot dogs and burgers (with American mustard), but tomato sauce on meat pies, sausages and bacon & egg sandwiches. It just depends on the meal. Though, a nice garlic aioli is great with a burger. Summed up my thoughts exactly Fuzz. That is the modern Australian use of simple condiments to a tee. Frenchs' American mustard for hotdogs etc is a step above IMO Only one alteration for me, the simple chicken schnitzel (or even crumbed fish) is normally served with lemon wedges as a stand alone condiment. Expert tip; add a little soy on top of the lemon to either. Mind will be blown.
gweilgi Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 20 hours ago, OB1 said: Those are both fries, the second one could also be called ‘potatoe wedges’. chips are these: Those are not chips. They are crisps. To quote the inestimable Ken Gargett, Esq. "Amuse yourselves calling them what you will at home but concede that the final word does not belong to the land of the free." 1
OB1 Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 Was thinking of u guys as I pigged out on some eggs, fries and ketchup this morning. Is it safe to assume everyone calls eggs eggs? 1 2
99call Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, OB1 said: Was thinking of u guys as I pigged out on some eggs, fries and ketchup this morning. Is it safe to assume everyone calls eggs eggs? Eggs is eggs......as they say
luv2fly Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 Call them what you like sir. The "land of the free" does not have the last word on eggs.
... Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 As a bearer of a dimensionaly non challenged apparatus, I am comfortable calling chips and fries as they may ?
SCgarman Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 4 hours ago, luv2fly said: Call them what you like sir. The "land of the free" does not have the last word on eggs. What makes you think the "Death Star" is the land of the free? Especially when Darth Vader ruled the galaxy!
alloy Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 9 hours ago, NYgarman said: What makes you think the "Death Star" is the land of the free? Especially when Darth Vader ruled the galaxy! Hmmm...I thought it was the evil emperor!
Corylax18 Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 In three pages of responses I still have not seen an answer for what you call actual tomato sauces? Will any Aussi please enlighten us? Its Catsup and Papas Fritas in Cuba and every other Spanish speaking country I've been to. Which translates directly to "Fried Potatoes" in English. Since that's exactly what we're talking about here, I would argue that they've got us all licked. The Australian tomato sauce, as well as the others I've heard described seem to all have different recipes(no sugar, add mushrooms, very different consistencies, etc.) which would mean they aren't really the same thing. You can't call beef stew beef stew if you switch the beef out for chicken..... (Beef Bourguinon for our French Canadian friends) Veering off into the linguistics part cracked me up. I'm pretty sure that original thread lead to a few timeouts. Its unfortunate to see something as lighthearted and quite honestly, meaningless, as this degrade into people taking shots at each other. I completely understand why you prefer what you grew up with. I don't like the "Catsup" they serve in Cuba, its too watery and not sweet enough, but it goes better with a ham and cheese sandwich than Heinz 57.
Ken Gargett Posted January 8, 2018 Author Posted January 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Corylax18 said: In three pages of responses I still have not seen an answer for what you call actual tomato sauces? Will any Aussi please enlighten us? Its Catsup and Papas Fritas in Cuba and every other Spanish speaking country I've been to. Which translates directly to "Fried Potatoes" in English. Since that's exactly what we're talking about here, I would argue that they've got us all licked. The Australian tomato sauce, as well as the others I've heard described seem to all have different recipes(no sugar, add mushrooms, very different consistencies, etc.) which would mean they aren't really the same thing. You can't call beef stew beef stew if you switch the beef out for chicken..... (Beef Bourguinon for our French Canadian friends) Veering off into the linguistics part cracked me up. I'm pretty sure that original thread lead to a few timeouts. Its unfortunate to see something as lighthearted and quite honestly, meaningless, as this degrade into people taking shots at each other. I completely understand why you prefer what you grew up with. I don't like the "Catsup" they serve in Cuba, its too watery and not sweet enough, but it goes better with a ham and cheese sandwich than Heinz 57. must say that i have not really detected anything degrading here. seems still relatively lighthearted or perhaps others are reading more into this than i am. should our seppo brethren not be as required to detail ketchup or catstuff or whatever it is, just as much as we be required to detail tomato sauce? more so, given it was an aussie post originally? anyway, i don't often have any at home but i do that the moment - Masterfoods Tomato Sauce. ingredients - tomatoes 69%, sugar, food acid (acetic), salt, onion, spice extract. i assume that assists?
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