Popular Post Philc2001 Posted October 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2017 I thought it would be helpful to have a list of current production hand-made long filler skinny cigars that are up 40 ring or less (< 16mm). I was surprised how many are still in production, but of those remaining most are not cheap (which I arbitrarily set at < $4 USD/cigar). The cheapies under $4/cigar that I believe are still in production are the following: El Rey del Mundo Demi Tasse - Entreactos - 3 6/7" x 30 (100mm x 11.91mm) Fonseca Delicias - Standard - 4 3/4" x 40 (123mm x 15.87mm) Fonseca KDT Cadetes - Cadete - 4 1/2" x 36 (114mm x 14.29mm) Hoyo de Monterrey Palmas Extra - Cremas - 5 1/2" x 40 (140mm x 15.87mm) Jose L. Piedra Petit Cetros - Petit Cetros JLP - 5" x 37 (127mm x 15.08mm) Jose L. Piedra Cremas - Cremas JLP - 5 1/3" x 40 (136mm x 15.87mm) Partagas Habaneros - Belveders - 4 5/6" x 39 (125mm x 15.48mm) Por Larrañaga Panetelas * - Vegueritos - 5" x 36 (127mm x 14.29mm) Rafael Gonzalez Panetelas Extra * - Vegueritos - 5" x 36 (127mm x 14.29mm) Rafael Gonzalez Perlas - Petit Coronas - 4" x 40 (102mm x 15.87mm) Romeo y Julieta Belvederes - Belvederes - 4 5/6" x 39 (125mm x 15.48mm) Romeo y Julieta Petit Julietas - Entreactos - 3 6/7" x 30 (100mm x 11.91mm) Romeo y Julieta Sport Largos - Sports - 4 3/5" x 34 (117mm x 13.89mm) * Short Filler The following appear to be in production, but they are over $4/cigar, some are much more (estimated box prices): Bolivar Tubos No. 3 - Placeras - 4 5/6" x 33 (125mm x 13.49mm) ( ~ $130) Cohiba Coronas Especiales - Palma - 5 8/9" x 38 (152mm x 15.1mm) ( ~ $330) Cohiba Exquisitos - Seoane - Length: 4 7/8" x 33 (126mm x 13.1mm) ( ~ $230) Cohiba Lanceros - Laguito No. 1 - 7 1/2" x 37 (192mm x 15.08mm) ( ~$450) Cohiba Panetelas - Lauguito No. 3 - 4 1/2" x 26 (115mm x 10.32mm) ( ~ $195) Hoyo de Monterrey Le Hoyo Du Maire - Entreactos - 3 6/7" x 30 (100mm x 11.91mm) ( ~ $105) Hoyo de Monterrey Le Hoyo du Depute - Tabucos - 4 1/4" x 37 (110mm x 15.08mm) ( ~ $130) Hoyo de Monterrey le Hoyo du Prince ** - Almuerzos - 5 1/9" x 40 (130mm x 15.87mm) ( ~ $155) H.Upmann Majestic - Cremas - 5 1/2" x 40 (140mm x 15.87mm) ( ~ $105) La Gloria Cubana Medaille D Or No. 4 - Palmitas - 5 8/9" x 32 (152mm x 12.7mm) ( ~ $150) Montecristo Joyitas - Laguito No. 3 - 4 1/2" x 26 (115mm x 10.32mm) ( ~ $120) Montecristo Especiales No. 2 - Palma - 5 8/9" x 38 (152mm x 15.1mm) ( ~ $250) Partagas Aristocrats - Petit Cetros - 5" x 40 (129mm x 15.87mm) ( ~$105) Partagas Partagas de Luxe (AT) - Cremas - 5 1/2" x 40 (140mm x 15.87mm) ( ~$130) Partagas Super Partagas - Cremas - 5 1/2" x 40 (140mm x 15.87mm) ( ~ $105) Por Larrañaga Montecarlos - Deliciosos - 6 1/4" x 33 (159mm x 13.1mm) ( ~ $120) Punch Petit Coronations T.A. - Coronitas - 4 3/5" x 40 (117mm x 15.87mm) ( ~ $115) Romeo y Julieta Julieta - Panetelas - 4 2/3" x 32 (120mm x 13.09mm) ( ~$120) Romeo y Julieta Romeo No. 1 T.A. - Cremas - 5 1/2" x 40 (140mm x 15.87mm) ( ~ $130) Trinidad Fundadores - Laguito Especial - 7 1/2" Ring Gauge: 40 (192mm x 15.87mm) ( ~$400) ** Announced as discontinued There are some more, but I have not seen them anywhere in stock for quite some time (maybe discontinued?): Montecristo Especiales - Gran Panetela - 7.56" x 38 (192mm x 15.1mm) ( ~$450) I probably missed a bunch, so let me know if there are others that should be included in the list (as long as they are not more than 40 rg or < 16mm). 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck14 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 ERDM DEMI TASSE in currently in stock at my regular CC vendor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc2001 Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 26 minutes ago, Buck14 said: ERDM DEMI TASSE in currently in stock at my regular CC vendor. Thanks Buck, I've moved them up the list to the sub $4 (just barely) category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David88 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Cohiba lancero, montecristo especiales, cohiba Corona especiales, Trinidad fundadores (I think that has a RG of 40) are all in current production. The le Hoyo du prince was discontinued this year. While some are still available, I haven’t seen any with 2017 box codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Hi Phil, on a glimpse PLP and RGPE are short-fillers. The du Prince has been discontinued, while still available (fairly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc2001 Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Ok, updates: Added the short-filler disclaimer on PLP and RGPE Added discontinued to Du Prince Added Cobhiba Lancero, Corona Especiales and Exquisitos I did not add the Fundadores as they are 40rg, and this list is for < 40. I did not add the Monte Especiales because everywhere I checked they are not even listed (not even as out of stock). But since they are not officially on a cut list I can add them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schumi5 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 If 40 rg is off the list, I think you should remove the Upmann Majestics as they are 40 as per CCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Schumi5 said: If 40 rg is off the list, I think you should remove the Upmann Majestics as they are 40 as per CCW. Trying not to be a pain in the arse, but by the same token, you would then have to remove others, such as the Majestics Party de Luxe HdM du Prince Party Super Partagas RyJ No.1 Punch Petit Coronations, etc. .... Don't know where you took the ring gauge info from, but it appears there has been a rounding error by some sort of backward calculation. Most of your RG39 are in actual fact RG40 (on the other hand RyJ Belvederes are missing at RG39). Edit: You may use the advanced search option of CCW which is working again: https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/cigar/list?ringHigh=39&ringLow=22 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planetary Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Fugu said: Edit: You may use the advanced search option of CCW which is working again: https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/cigar/list?ringHigh=39&ringLow=22 Generating the list @Philc2001 wants would be trivial, if CCW had accurate "Current Production" data. I wonder if there's any way we can help populate that data and keep it current? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc2001 Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Well, it appears all the cremas are listed as 39 or 40 at different vendors (it's 15.87mm). It seems there is consensus to use 40 and add in the Fundadores, so I'll make the updates. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, planetary said: Generating the list @Philc2001 wants would be trivial, if CCW had accurate "Current Production" data. I wonder if there's any way we can help populate that data and keep it current? At the rate of HSA axing will be a difficult task.... Besides cigar measures nothing is known "for sure"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Philc2001 said: Ok, updates: Added the short-filler disclaimer on PLP and RGPE Added discontinued to Du Prince Added Cobhiba Lancero, Corona Especiales and Exquisitos I did not add the Fundadores as they are 40rg, and this list is for < 40. I did not add the Monte Especiales because everywhere I checked they are not even listed (not even as out of stock). But since they are not officially on a cut list I can add them. The seven 'global' brands tend not to be deleted in comparison to the other brands (okay, there are some exceptions on rare occasion, such as the H.Upmann Petit Corona and Hoyo de Monterrey du Prince this year). In regards to the big selling brands, Cohiba and Montecristo, there have been no deletions with these two marca since 1998. Thus, it'd be logical to assume that the Especiales is in a current production hiatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habana Mike Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 3 hours ago, JohnS said: The seven 'global' brands tend not to be deleted in comparison to the other brands (okay, there are some exceptions on rare occasion, such as the H.Upmann Petit Corona and Hoyo de Monterrey du Prince this year). In regards to the big selling brands, Cohiba and Montecristo, there have been no deletions with these two marca since 1998. Thus, it'd be logical to assume that the Especiales is in a current production hiatus. Hope it's just a hiatus, I like to keep boxes of these in stock and running low, single digits.... Will search them out in Havana next month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, Habana Mike said: Hope it's just a hiatus, I like to keep boxes of these in stock and running low, single digits.... Will search them out in Havana next month I hope you can find its Cohiba cousin, the Lanceros too (which has similarly been unavailable recently)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habana Mike Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, JohnS said: I hope you can find its Cohiba cousin, the Lanceros too (which has similarly been unavailable recently)! Yea, fairly set on those but point well taken! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMcLean68 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Thanks for the heads up on the Especiales guys. I was just asking Rob about availability of these recently, and the word was that he hadn't seen any since March. I guess thats one to scratch from the list for now I've seen the Cohiba Lanceros listed as a 38 gauge rather than 37. Was wondering which was correct so I can keep my own record accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatPete Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Hi I think I may have another one for your list. Partagas Culebras-39 ring gauge, or should that be 3x39 ring ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 2 hours ago, IanMcLean68 said: Thanks for the heads up on the Especiales guys. I was just asking Rob about availability of these recently, and the word was that he hadn't seen any since March. I guess thats one to scratch from the list for now I've seen the Cohiba Lanceros listed as a 38 gauge rather than 37. Was wondering which was correct so I can keep my own record accurate? Rounding error when recalculating from a metric (mm) info (e.g. the 15.87 mm as stated by Phil for a RG40 is in fact 15.875 mm = 40/64 of an inch). While all else is metric in Cuba, ring gauges are not, a historical thingy. RG info is best being taken from CCW or directly from the Habanos website (or other reliable textbooks of course). Wouldn't be too worried about the two Laguito No.1s. They have never been made in a constant flow, always seen gaps in production. Cigars which, if you are keen in, you have to grab when you see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMcLean68 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 The Cohiba Lanceros is listed as 38x192 on CCW, hence my confusion. Lucky for me I have a nice PSP box of these from a 24:24 some time ago :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, IanMcLean68 said: The Cohiba Lanceros is listed as 38x192 on CCW, hence my confusion. Lucky for me I have a nice PSP box of these from a 24:24 some time ago :-) Yes, and that's the correct info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbandz Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 well done, it's nice to read this list and consider which of these I should add to my little group........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Good to see a variety of sticks on this list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc2001 Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 it would be nice to see some of these come up in 24:24 a little more regularly. I've seldom seen any of the "cheap" ones, and only a few of the rest that have been on 24:24 since I've been following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc2001 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 I guess Fonseca KDT Cadetes and Jose L. Piedra Cremas and Cetros are still around. Updated accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghabanos Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Is the LgC4 done? No more? nevermind. Silly question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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