Behikes

[GrouchoMarx]

Just a couple questions:

 

Are they only made in laguito factory?

 

What's a legit box code?

 

Thanks

 

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[Islandboy]

I’ve got a box of AMO Ago 15, not sure about the first question.

[GrouchoMarx]

I picked up some AMO JUN 17 I checked everything else which proved legit.

Thanks

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[havanaclub]

I picked up some AMO JUN 17 I checked everything else which proved legit.

Thanks

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Where did you find these?


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[SloppyJ]

10 minutes ago, havanaclub said:

 

Where did you find these?


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I see 52s, 54s, and 56s in stock at multiple other vendors. Check around. They are around. 

[GrouchoMarx]

Where did you find these?


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They had 4 boxes, I snagged 2.

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[clutch5150]

6 minutes ago, ericdriscoll said:

Behikes have not had any medio tiempo tobacco in the blend since 2010. After that, they became nothing more than a novel shape with a holographic band, a shiny box, and mediocre tobacco. If you think you're tasting anything unique, it's either wishful thinking or willful self delusion. And no amount of aging will cause your Behikes to magically sprout medio tiempo within itself just because you want them to. That's not how it works. Buy 2010s, otherwise you're wasting your money and partaking in a charade.

Where can I learn more about this?

[Smoking Ninja]

7 minutes ago, ericdriscoll said:

Behikes have not had any medio tiempo tobacco in the blend since 2010. After that, they became nothing more than a novel shape with a holographic band, a shiny box, and mediocre tobacco. If you think you're tasting anything unique, it's either wishful thinking or willful self delusion. And no amount of aging will cause your Behikes to magically sprout medio tiempo within itself just because you want them to. That's not how it works. Buy 2010s, otherwise you're wasting your money and partaking in a charade.

Well, your statement just made my 2010 OR 52s and 54s more valuable!!  Still waiting on that special occasion to fire one up!

[GrouchoMarx]

Behikes have not had any medio tiempo tobacco in the blend since 2010. After that, they became nothing more than a novel shape with a holographic band, a shiny box, and mediocre tobacco. If you think you're tasting anything unique, it's either wishful thinking or willful self delusion. And no amount of aging will cause your Behikes to magically sprout medio tiempo within itself just because you want them to. That's not how it works. Buy 2010s, otherwise you're wasting your money and partaking in a charade.

May I ask how you know this?

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[shlomo]

10 minutes ago, GrouchoMarx said:

May I ask how you know this?

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Taste.

[Islandboy]

14 minutes ago, ericdriscoll said:

Behikes have not had any medio tiempo tobacco in the blend since 2010. After that, they became nothing more than a novel shape with a holographic band, a shiny box, and mediocre tobacco. If you think you're tasting anything unique, it's either wishful thinking or willful self delusion. And no amount of aging will cause your Behikes to magically sprout medio tiempo within itself just because you want them to. That's not how it works. Buy 2010s, otherwise you're wasting your money and partaking in a charade.

A similar statement could be made regarding the evolution of many of the “special” cigars we all love to hunt down, so what’s the real point of sharing such a judgmental opinion? After all, it’s just being in the moment and enjoying a cigar we’re talking about, right?

[Mattb82]

6 hours ago, ericdriscoll said:

Behikes have not had any medio tiempo tobacco in the blend since 2010. After that, they became nothing more than a novel shape with a holographic band, a shiny box, and mediocre tobacco. If you think you're tasting anything unique, it's either wishful thinking or willful self delusion. And no amount of aging will cause your Behikes to magically sprout medio tiempo within itself just because you want them to. That's not how it works. Buy 2010s, otherwise you're wasting your money and partaking in a charade.

Aside from the fact that many love the profile with or without medio tiempo. Your statement is very subjective. Also curious about the source, If someone enjoys a cigar that's all that matters 

[Bartolomeo]

33 minutes ago, Mattb82 said:

Aside from the fact that many love the profile with or without medio tiempo. Your statement is very subjective. Also curious about the source, If someone enjoys a cigar that's all that matters 

Honest question, do you really think many people love the Behike profile?....or do they love the mystique, shiny band, etc about it? Asking in all seriousness because the crowd I run with don't buy these cigars for many reasons but mostly because there are better choices out there for the coin and the blend is ok at best recently. I know cigars are subjective to everybody, there is no right or wrong. I tend to see people fairly recent to cigars chasing these Behikes but in a blind comparison with other sticks Behikes can't compete on profile, forgetting about price....just curious

[PapaDisco]

Habanos SA publishes the blends?  

[Mattb82]

3 minutes ago, Bartolomeo said:

Honest question, do you really think many people love the Behike profile?....or do they love the mystique, shiny band, etc about it? Asking in all seriousness because the crowd I run with don't buy these cigars for many reasons but mostly because there are better choices out there for the coin and the blend is ok at best recently. I tend to see people fairly recent to cigars chasing these Behikes but in a blind comparison with other sticks Behikes can't compete on profile, forgetting about price....just curious

Personally I don't own a single behike. My point was telling people they are wasting money because one believes there isn't medio tiempo doesn't make sense to me because taste and enjoyment are subjective.  Obviously people like them or they wouldn't command the premium and continue to sell. Doesn't matter if it's someone new or experienced, they sell and are smoked. It was a very pointed subjective post that he made on someone else's thread. My opinion

[Bartolomeo]

7 minutes ago, Mattb82 said:

Personally I don't own a single behike. My point was telling people they are wasting money because one believes there isn't medio tiempo doesn't make sense to me because taste and enjoyment are subjective.  Obviously people like them or they wouldn't command the premium and continue to sell. Doesn't matter if it's someone new or experienced, they sell and are smoked. It was a very pointed subjective post that he made on someone else's thread. My opinion

Thanks Matt for responding! I don't know for a fact if MT has been used since the OR but I do know the profile is different from then until present, not the same cigar at all

[Lotusguy]

Medio Tiempo is just marketing hype.

Behike these days are mostly for flipping. When was the last time you actually saw someone smoke one?

[El Presidente]

Why do you think they haven't been pumping out Behike these past 18 months?

ROI would be twice on a CORO. 

[El Presidente]

12 minutes ago, Lotusguy said:

Medio Tiempo is just marketing hype.

Behike these days are mostly for flipping. When was the last time you actually saw someone smoke one?

I would guess they are in the top 20 cigars sold in any B&M selling Cuban cigars. Certainly ours. This doesn't include online. 

*When they were available. 

[Islandboy]

3 hours ago, Bartolomeo said:

Honest question, do you really think many people love the Behike profile?....or do they love the mystique, shiny band, etc about it? Asking in all seriousness because the crowd I run with don't buy these cigars for many reasons but mostly because there are better choices out there for the coin and the blend is ok at best recently. I know cigars are subjective to everybody, there is no right or wrong. I tend to see people fairly recent to cigars chasing these Behikes but in a blind comparison with other sticks Behikes can't compete on profile, forgetting about price....just curious

Interesting that a simple inquiry on a certain cigar by the OP has devolved into a character examination. But I guess for some, that just goes with the indulging and subjective nature of our hobby.

I can’t speak for anyone but myself, so in a way, can’t answer your broad question. Personally, I’ve only had 2 behikes thus far, a 52 from the box that my boss gifted me a year ago, and a recent 54 that absolutely blew me away - also given to me. I find the profile very pleasurable. But then my first and most memorable CC was a CoRo, and the BHK’s I’ve experienced have been like a CoRo on steroids, so I guess I’m a bit biased.

From the pure perspective of value, I don’t think anyone can argue the fact that Behikes rank pretty low. And I’m sure many find the mystique alone attractive. But then there doesn’t seem to be any shortage of those who happily drop significantly more dough on an 8 year old box of (fill in the blank). It’s all part of the game we love, isn’t it?

I envy those brothers who have been fortunate enough to experience the legend that is the OR in 2010. I’m certain by all accounts that it was magnificent. Just try not to throw shade on the rest of us for taking a roll of the dice. It’s just a cigar, after all.

 

[anacostiakat]

2 hours ago, El Presidente said:

I would guess they are in the top 20 cigars sold in any B&M selling Cuban cigars. Certainly ours. This doesn't include online. 

*When they were available. 

This is an interesting fact given their cost.  Must be plenty playa's out there.   

[El Presidente]

Just now, anacostiakat said:

This is an interesting fact given their cost.  Must be plenty playa's out there.   

Plenty of blokes who don't smoke more than once or twice a week, work hard and want the best there is. To their mind that equates to Cohiba/Behike. They have the coin, good luck to them. 

Generally they are not box buyers, just pop on through and pick up a couple. They wouldn't even know "flipping" is a thing 

[GrouchoMarx]

1 minute ago, El Presidente said:

Plenty of blokes who don't smoke more than once or twice a week, work hard and want the best there is. To their mind that equates to Cohiba/Behike. They have the coin, good luck to them. 

Generally they are not box buyers, just pop on through and pick up a couple. They wouldn't even know "flipping" is a thing 

As the OP, I'm seeing lots of "opinions" here. All I was asking was 2 questions, neither of which have been answered. Looks like I sparked something! (sorry)

I picked up 2 boxes of AMO JUN 17. I checked everything about them, and they're legit.

Are they only made at laguito?  Are they still made in very limited numbers? How often does FoH get them in?

[GrouchoMarx]

5 hours ago, El Presidente said:

Why do you think they haven't been pumping out Behike these past 18 months?

ROI would be twice on a CORO. 

But - http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/cohiba-behikes-are-back-19029

[wabashcr]

There were anecdotal reports during the leaner times that Behikes were being produced in other factories, which I never understood.  I'm not sure that was ever confirmed, and as far as I know Cuba's official position is that they're still only made at El Laguito.  I haven't heard of any recent production with factory codes known to be anything other than El Laguito.  But with Cuba, who knows?  Supply is still very tight, but they do seem to be making them now.  There are reports of people seeing them in Cuba, and shops/vendors around the world seem to have them in stock.  

I would treat any claims about the presence or absence of medio tiempo in the current blend as mere opinion/speculation.  That the blend is different than the original release, and not for the better, seems to be almost universally agreed.  Whether that change is attributable to medio tiempo is less clear.  During the period when they were nonexistent, one of the rumored reasons was a lack of medio tiempo leaf.  I don't think there are very many people in a position to know for sure, and even fewer who would talk about it.  Certainly I'm not in a position to speak definitively about Behike production.  I've never even been to Cuba.  My understanding is based solely on accounts I've read here and elsewhere from people I tend to trust.