dicko Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Hi guys so i stuffed up and accidentally froze a box of RASCC for 14 days. In a big chest freezer gets cold. I have put them in the fridge for a 24-48 hour thaw out. Not checked them yet. What damage, if any, can i expect? Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
prodigy Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I bet that they are all just fine. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk 3
Bartolomeo Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Make sure they r not in bags in the fridge 1
Luca Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 They should be fine. I forgot I left a cigar in the fridge for a month. Came out fine and looks good!!Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk 2
Spanishcedar Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 They may have a little crunch to them when you take a bite but still as good as ever 2
OZCUBAN Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Never ever froze a box Ben never had issues apart from stuff that has nothing to do with freezing ? 1
Fuzz Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 They should be fine. I've left cigars frozen (-18C) for over a week without any problems. 1
Fugu Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 8 hours ago, Bartolomeo said: Make sure they r not in bags in the fridge Why not?! In fact, it's advisable to keep them sealed until the box reaches full storage temperature again in order to avoid condensing conditions. 1
GrouchoMarx Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Fugu said: Why not?! In fact, it's advisable to keep them sealed until the box reaches full storage temperature again in order to avoid condensing conditions. I hope its ok - I have a bag of farmies that I picked up from my B&M that are coming out of the freezer today (zip-locked). Into the fridge overnight, then room temp, then into my humi. 1
westg Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 They may taste a little meaty...a bit of green pea, and a slight after taste of fishfinger....you doodle head 1
mkz Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 41 minutes ago, GrouchoMarx said: I hope its ok - I have a bag of farmies that I picked up from my B&M that are coming out of the freezer today (zip-locked). Into the fridge overnight, then room temp, then into my humi. Thats the way I do it. 1
dicko Posted August 31, 2017 Author Posted August 31, 2017 They may taste a little meaty...a bit of green pea, and a slight after taste of fishfinger....you doodle head Sausage rolls and kangaroo meat Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
Smoking Ninja Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I am sure there won't be any bugs after that!! 1
Bartolomeo Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 6 hours ago, Fugu said: Why not?! In fact, it's advisable to keep them sealed until the box reaches full storage temperature again in order to avoid condensing conditions. When cigars in ziplocks are taken from freezer to refrigerator, condensation occurs in the refrigerator that gets the box/cigars wet in my experience removing the bag between the freezer and refrigerator eliminates that risk 1 1
Laxman Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I freeze everything. Pick up a Foodsaver vacuum sealer, the titanium is one beautiful machine. 14 days is not going to hurt them, cigars are a lot more resilient then you think.
Colt45 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 18 hours ago, dicko said: What damage, if any, can i expect? Sorry mate, the cut off time for avoiding irreparable damage from freezing is 13 1/2 days..... 2
Fugu Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 4 hours ago, Bartolomeo said: When cigars in ziplocks are taken from freezer to refrigerator, condensation occurs in the refrigerator that gets the box/cigars wet in my experience removing the bag between the freezer and refrigerator eliminates that risk Ok, I think I get what you mean - ice crystals that may have formed on the inner side of the bag during frosting? That may be an issue indeed (while sticks losing moisture). When that water thaws later on it can be wetting the box on the outside, sometimes even the cigars inside, when condensation of moisture occurred within the box - mostly unnoticed. Still, when going from cold to warm - freezer to fridge, fridge to room climate, condensation of air moisture that's not been blocked off will occur on the relatively colder box and cigars (depending on actual dewpoints of course). To avoid such one may repack the box into a new bag should there have ice crystals been formed within the freezer bag. Goes without saying that cigars need a period a acclimatization following that process.
Fugu Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I don't freeze, apart from the odd (rare) second hands, customs and direct imports. I guess Rob's stock (PCC) doesn't need any freeze. Not sure here - is PCC freezing a second time after importing to its warehouses?
dicko Posted August 31, 2017 Author Posted August 31, 2017 Sorry mate, the cut off time for avoiding irreparable damage from freezing is 13 1/2 days.....Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
El Presidente Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Fugu said: I don't freeze, apart from the odd (rare) second hands, customs and direct imports. I guess Rob's stock (PCC) doesn't need any freeze. Not sure here - is PCC freezing a second time after importing to its warehouses? They don't. Only freezing is in Havana 1
dicko Posted August 31, 2017 Author Posted August 31, 2017 Why do y'all freeze your seegars? And for those that do, how long in freezer then fridge?I don't normally but this box had a handful of creepy crawlies. 99% they were woodmites not tobacco beetles but why take the chance. There are charts online I think in this forum for times to kill beetles. Doesnt take long a day or 2 to be safe. It is then widely recommended to let them slowly thaw out in the fridge another day or 2. Works great unless you forget Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk 1
OZCUBAN Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Keep N/C's out of the mix and I think it would be rare to get any beetles ist saying ?
SCgarman Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I freeze my boxes in a chest freezer at 10 below zero Fahrenheit for 48 hours. In a sealed freezer bag. After that take the box out of freezer bag and sit out in room temp for 15 or 20 minutes. Then the box goes into my wood humidor cabinet. The refrigerator step is IMO unnecessary and I see no benefit as my cigars come out fine. No cracked wrappers, no damage whatsoever and they smoke just fine. And no worry of beetles. 1 1
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