Puros Y Vino Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Fantastic effort Rob! Thanks for undertaking this. I think I might have a candidate for actual plume. I have some old HU No 4's from the Mid 70's. No fuzzy stuff on them, but there are shiny, crystalline spots here and there. I don't have the right camera or skills to photograph it though. @photorob Maybe you can take some close ups this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird55 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 So does this mean I can stop wondering what I am doing wrong, since my aged cigars (5 to 10 years) aren't producing plume? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puros Y Vino Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nguneer Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Well I guess its officially official now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump89 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Really good info on this, well done. A dirty job, but someone had to do it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booyaa Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 This is a great project Rob. I'm amazed it hasn't been done until now.Sent from my SM-G935F using TapatalkPerhaps it has but the people involved were making too much money from plumey/mouldy cigars to publish the results... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Good job mates! As I have proffered for many years. More creative terms borne out of the desire to sell a cigar from the collector and vendor community. (Present company excluded). I was in fact hoping to find a case where there was this diffusion of glue (someone posted about)... That made some sense to me. "The King is dead!" -LOL -Piggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Awesome work guys, we now have a credible standard to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabashcr Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Thanks for undertaking this and sharing the results. Nice to put some science behind what many of us have long suspected, that it's always mold. It was interesting to read about the different kinds of mold, but the cigars pictured all pretty clearly had mold. I've long been of the belief that plume on a cigar is a myth. I'd be fascinated to be proven wrong. Hopefully the new incentive will at least produce some better candidates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I'm sure we will soon hear from vendors: Yes its mould but that doesn't mean its bad. Look at cheese and salami. It enhances the cigars taste just like those! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Puros Y Vino Posted July 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, Hayden said: I'm sure we will soon hear from vendors: Yes its mould but that doesn't mean its bad. Look at cheese and salami. It enhances the cigars taste just like those! Yes. I can see it now. The new Partagas Provolone Salamon. El Rey del Moldo (new marca coming 2018) 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv2fly Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I do believe this may ruffle some vendor's feathers. One in particular comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheGipper Posted July 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2017 Great work, gents. And someone needs to state the obvious, before any one freaks out about some of those alarming descriptions.... Mold is everywhere. Not just on your aged cigars. If you are freaked out about smoking a cigar that has even the smallest hint of mold spores, well then, you probably have to give up the hobby altogether. Not to mention, you will also have to give up eating pretty much all food! Besides, I can think of no better way to destroy mold spores than setting them on fire. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest photorob Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 sure @bundwallah. Will bring some camera gear. Also, thanks Rob + team for putting this all together. Such valuable work done here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv2fly Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, TheGipper said: Mold is everywhere. Not just on your aged cigars Very true. In my former job I had to explain this to more people than I can count. Wipe the cigar, smoke, and enjoy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 9 hours ago, JoeyGunz said: But then explain this.... mo money taking the piss 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivalanation734 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Absolutely great work! Thanks for having this done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spivey6690 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I would like to verify the results. Please mail all cigars in study to me so that I can perform my own independent research. Disclaimer: I am a scientist; I do science stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, luv2fly said: 1 hour ago, TheGipper said: Mold is everywhere. Not just on your aged cigars Very true. In my former job I had to explain this to more people than I can count. Wipe the cigar, smoke, and enjoy! To be precise: Spores - yes sure, vegetative, i.e. "blooming" mould should not! That's the very matter of controlling conditions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv2fly Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Spores yes! Blooming no. Controlling conditions is paramount. Thanks for the clarification Fugu! I should have been more specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planetary Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 @Ferrero I can provide examples of well-aged (10, 15, 20 year-old) pipe tobacco with what look like crystals, if you would like. It's long been suspected that these are neither mold nor sugar, but some other substance. Not sure if that would be of interest in this study, since pipe tobacco is processed quite differently, but that community is quite curious, and has never done any testing, to my knowledge. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonk Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Very interesting stuff, thanks for taking the time. It's great to see a scientific approach on cigars... something that very rarely happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrero Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 51 minutes ago, planetary said: @Ferrero I can provide examples of well-aged (10, 15, 20 year-old) pipe tobacco with what look like crystals, if you would like. It's long been suspected that these are neither mold nor sugar, but some other substance. Not sure if that would be of interest in this study, since pipe tobacco is processed in wildly different ways, but that community is quite curious, and has never done any testing, to my knowledge. You've got me very intrigued... If you are okay parting ways with a little pinch then we would love to get it tested. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I appreciate the work on this, very interesting indeed. So, what does it mean? Does wiping them off make everything ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Presidente Posted July 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, archie said: I appreciate the work on this, very interesting indeed. So, what does it mean? Does wiping them off make everything ok? My personal rules: Wipe and move on unless: there is mould in the foot of the cigar. the mould is a colour other than white. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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