Popular Post LordAnubis Posted June 25, 2017 Popular Post Posted June 25, 2017 Eid Mubarak to one and all. Just back from the morning prayers after another month of fasting down. Been a long time since I've had a smoke. Stopped several weeks before ramadhan and then have gone through Ramadan without ofcourse. I usually post up some comments about what my religion means to me, but today I'll move away from that a little bit. Times are tough at the moment all around the world. The "Muslims" are copping a heap of flac for the actions of a few. It's not a good time to have an Arab name and beard living in a western country. My family has directly faced a few sub-human beings this year unfortunately which makes me sad to see the state of intolerance in all sides of the world. What I'd like to share today is a video from one of my favourite Islamic scholars. Nouman Ali Khan. In this particular video, it's 40 mins long, he starts off talking about inviting people to Islam. That's not what I want to share with you guys. What I would like to show is the type of people that us normal Muslims are listening to. We're not listening to radical clerics. We're not listening to extremist ideologies. We're listening to normal, down to earth human beings who have a passion in sharing and learning a religion they find peace and solace in. This particular topic I find spot on about the problem I see with Muslims these days. We just make it hard. Islam is not hard. It really isn't. Being a decent human being, being kind, being considerate, caring for your fellow human beings and worldly inhabitants, being the best person you can be. Is easy. Beyond that, to me, is all the small stuff. Please have a look at this video from about the 13 minute mark onwards. That's what I find interesting and fully agree with. Apologies. There's a few Arabic words in there that you guys may not understand. But if you'd like to know a bit more about what he's saying let me know which section you don't understand and I can shed some light on it if you'd like. Eid Mubarak to one and all. Have a great day with family and friends. May we all live to share many more. Lastly. I'd like to share something from the Quran which I think is fitting in today's climate. The Quran is split into "surahs", chapters if you will. They go pretty much from largest to smallest. Smallest being at the end. When a young Muslims learns the Quran you start from the back as it's the easiest parts to memorise. The 6th surah one learns is called Surah Al-Kafiroon. Yes it's talking about the non believers. The translation is as follows; "O unbelievers.I do not serve that which you serve. Nor do you serve him whom I serve. Nor am I going to serve that which you serve. Nor are you going to serve him whom I serve. You have your religion and I shall have my religion. " Do as you will people. It is your right. Just as it is mine to do as I like. Mus Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 13
watches_whiskies_cigars Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 Eid Mubarak to you as well, brother!
OZCUBAN Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 Eid Mubarak! brother ?? now go and open the fridge then the humidor I bet it was chilly this morning at prayers cheers
planetary Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Peace to you from an atheist in California. Do as you will is great wisdom, and may be one of the keys to our survival, and criteria for Earth-originating intelligence to endure into the deep future. 1
Waah954 Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Eid MubarakSent from my ONEPLUS A3010 using Tapatalk
gweilgi Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 3 hours ago, LordAnubis said: Eid Mubarak to one and all. Just back from the morning prayers after another month of fasting down. Been a long time since I've had a smoke. Stopped several weeks before ramadhan and then have gone through Ramadan without ofcourse. I usually post up some comments about what my religion means to me, but today I'll move away from that a little bit. Times are tough at the moment all around the world. The "Muslims" are copping a heap of flac for the actions of a few. It's not a good time to have an Arab name and beard living in a western country. My family has directly faced a few sub-human beings this year unfortunately which makes me sad to see the state of intolerance in all sides of the world. What I'd like to share today is a video from one of my favourite Islamic scholars. Nouman Ali Khan. In this particular video, it's 40 mins long, he starts off talking about inviting people to Islam. That's not what I want to share with you guys. What I would like to show is the type of people that us normal Muslims are listening to. We're not listening to radical clerics. We're not listening to extremist ideologies. We're listening to normal, down to earth human beings who have a passion in sharing and learning a religion they find peace and solace in. This particular topic I find spot on about the problem I see with Muslims these days. We just make it hard. Islam is not hard. It really isn't. Being a decent human being, being kind, being considerate, caring for your fellow human beings and worldly inhabitants, being the best person you can be. Is easy. Beyond that, to me, is all the small stuff. Eid Mubarak to you! And yes, it always does boil down to the Golden Rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Everything else is detail. 1
torrenfoot Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Eid Mubarak!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
maxcjs0101 Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Eid Mubarak is also known wished as Selamat Hari Raya in Malaysia & Singapore. And best of all, we have 2 days off!
Smokin Joe Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Eid Mubarak and thanks for the noteSent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
99call Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 12 hours ago, LordAnubis said: Eid Mubarak to one and all. Just back from the morning prayers after another month of fasting down. Been a long time since I've had a smoke. Stopped several weeks before ramadhan and then have gone through Ramadan without ofcourse. I usually post up some comments about what my religion means to me, but today I'll move away from that a little bit. Times are tough at the moment all around the world. The "Muslims" are copping a heap of flac for the actions of a few. It's not a good time to have an Arab name and beard living in a western country. My family has directly faced a few sub-human beings this year unfortunately which makes me sad to see the state of intolerance in all sides of the world. What I'd like to share today is a video from one of my favourite Islamic scholars. Nouman Ali Khan. In this particular video, it's 40 mins long, he starts off talking about inviting people to Islam. That's not what I want to share with you guys. What I would like to show is the type of people that us normal Muslims are listening to. We're not listening to radical clerics. We're not listening to extremist ideologies. We're listening to normal, down to earth human beings who have a passion in sharing and learning a religion they find peace and solace in. This particular topic I find spot on about the problem I see with Muslims these days. We just make it hard. Islam is not hard. It really isn't. Being a decent human being, being kind, being considerate, caring for your fellow human beings and worldly inhabitants, being the best person you can be. Is easy. Beyond that, to me, is all the small stuff. Please have a look at this video from about the 13 minute mark onwards. That's what I find interesting and fully agree with. Apologies. There's a few Arabic words in there that you guys may not understand. But if you'd like to know a bit more about what he's saying let me know which section you don't understand and I can shed some light on it if you'd like. Eid Mubarak to one and all. Have a great day with family and friends. May we all live to share many more. Lastly. I'd like to share something from the Quran which I think is fitting in today's climate. The Quran is split into "surahs", chapters if you will. They go pretty much from largest to smallest. Smallest being at the end. When a young Muslims learns the Quran you start from the back as it's the easiest parts to memorise. The 6th surah one learns is called Surah Al-Kafiroon. Yes it's talking about the non believers. The translation is as follows; "O unbelievers. I do not serve that which you serve. Nor do you serve him whom I serve. Nor am I going to serve that which you serve. Nor are you going to serve him whom I serve. You have your religion and I shall have my religion. " Do as you will people. It is your right. Just as it is mine to do as I like. Mus Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Eid Mubarak, I've watched this through, and it seems the scholar is suggesting that morality, respect, humility and kindness isn't a merit system based of how many times you read the Quran, and that nobody sits on a higher cloud. This ties in interestingly with something Christopher Hitchens said. 'Are we to assume morality didn't exist before the ten commandments were handed down, nonsense!!". It's unfortunate that some people use holy books and religion to make others feel unworthy or misplaced in life. But I think the the 'obsessive compulsive' aspect this speaker focuses on, could be innately to do with the offering of culture in the modern Islamic world, and the fact although all identity must have is foundations in your holy book, that shouldn't mean that all the Islamic world can offer is.........Islam and the Quran. As an atheist I am overjoyed with anyone and anything that makes them happy, and this includes religion. And for people with religion this can't help but overspill in their personal offering of who they are. However, at this difficult cross roads I think it's essential the Islamic world shows us it's art, its architects, it's engineers, it's scientists, its poets, it's sportsmen and women, it's astronauts, it's photographers etc etc. for many the Holy Bible and the Quran can seem like medieval handbooks that seem to only relay guilt and admonishment. We need something more than religion to bind our communities. I've restored and conserved islamic art works and scientific instruments from the 12th century. As this point, Islam was at the forefront of world achievement, with some of the best thinkers, artisans and theologians in the world. Although obviously rooted in religion, they still seemed to have no difficulty in expressing themselves in understanding the world outside of those constraints. In modern terms this would be like an Islamic space programme or a Hadron Collider in Saudi. My question is this.... What happened? In working in Saudi Arabia and other middle eastern countries, the concept of working with your hands, seems to be a bit of a dirty word, and to a large extent many skills and infrastructure are simple bought in Religion can be a wonderful thing, but it cannot continue to be a missionary culture. I am (as I have said) overjoyed for anyone to follow and enjoy their religion, but the focus of sharing should be on food, nature, music, art, dancing ...........cigars! Unfortunately this ramble of mine is part of the problem, we need to stop telling each other what to do, or how to do it. and simple revel and enjoy in the fact we can be different, but we can all get along enjoying all the things that bind us. To Mus, thank you for this video, it's very interesting and I think I great many people could learn from this young gentleman, not to highjack the thread, but could you, (if you have the time or inclination to) add any music, food, dancing links about the celebration of Eid? it would be nice to see the colour and fun of these festivities
dominattorney Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Peace to you and everyone else brother. Now that that's out of the way, let's get back to arguing over our petty differences, like the v cut vs the punch. 1
Guest Nekhyludov Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 A Blessed Holiday to you, @LordAnubis. I really enjoyed watching the video. The impulse to make the way of faith hard and narrow afflicts my faith tradition, too. We could all do with more of the simple sincerity he describes so passionately. Thanks for sharing that with us.
PigFish Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 I believe that well intentioned people wish to share what joy they have in life. I see no difference in the intent, if an absence of God thrills you, or a belief and understanding of God does, we all want to share what we view as a positive in our lives if we are the type of person that once elevated, wishes to elevate others. There are then simply two types of people, ones that share to elevate and those that share to control... It is the people that wish to control others, whether it be with a gun, a book, an ideology, religion or other, that are the problem. I think I would go awry to attempt to discuss anyone's religion or lack of it here. People who wish to 'share' their bounties are brothers to me. I care little what god they pray too. I see this as one such offering. God bless you Mus, I hope you have a fine holiday and say thank you for sharing. Cheers mate! -Ray 1
Fuzz Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 7 hours ago, PigFish said: I believe that well intentioned people wish to share what joy they have in life. I see no difference in the intent, if an absence of God thrills you, or a belief and understanding of God does, we all want to share what we view as a positive in our lives if we are the type of person that once elevated, wishes to elevate others. There are then simply two types of people, ones that share to elevate and those that share to control... It is the people that wish to control others, whether it be with a gun, a book, an ideology, religion or other, that are the problem. I think I would go awry to attempt to discuss anyone's religion or lack of it here. People who wish to 'share' their bounties are brothers to me. I care little what god they pray too. I see this as one such offering. God bless you Mus, I hope you have a fine holiday and say thank you for sharing. Cheers mate! -Ray Happy to share my Bounties with you, Ray! 1
PigFish Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, Fuzz said: Happy to share my Bounties with you, Ray! ... you're trying to control me again!!! -R
Goose Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 18 hours ago, 99call said: (if you have the time or inclination to) add any music, food, dancing links about the celebration of Eid? it would be nice to see the colour and fun of these festivities Eid Mubarak all ! Brilliant Idea to share how we celebrate. Would help so much if people made the time to read up on other cultures and their festivals. Can't say we have any particular Music or Dancing that happens on Eid and Food as well is more regionally inclined than religious. At my house, being Pakistani, we would typically cook up a steaming pot of Biryani (Rice dish cooked with meat and spices in one pot) and invite friends and family over to share it with. This year the wife cooked up Beef Biryani, and I made Chicken Lasgna (Very much not Pakistani but very popular at my place). You would also always have dessert in the form of a pudding or sweet vermicelli. Intent is to cook big meals that can be left on the table, reheated if needed and serve through the day since generally there is no fixed time to eat like lunch/dinner. People keep dropping by and eating/conversing & relaxing. Eid also happens over 3 days, so you would typically host 1 day, and visit friends on others. Mind you this is after a month of fasting, so appetites have shrunk by then, and the gluttons who feast end up needing a good dose of antacids :). The one aspect of Eid that I beleive is cross-cultural is that it is a festival Kids love. They dress up in the most colorful nicest new clothes their parents get them, and get gifts from the adults who come to visit which is called "Eidi" - generally a small cash gift that they collect and go buy something nice with after the 3 days. The fat boy in me used to spend it all on chocolates come day 3 ! My dad still insists on giving my Wife and me Eidi and we're well in our 30s. Now it goes to the cigar fund Jamal
AndrewNR Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 I openly tell people I'm an Atheist, And indeed I am. I also make sure I tell people to understand I'm not a racist, A bigot or anything else.. I don't hate any particular colour, Beleif, Religion or movement any more than the next. In fact, I hate them all equally. That said, I respect what I loosely refer to a "Healthy Belief" There is no doubt religion like any organization has done and helped organise a great deal of good on peoples personal lives and the greater world. Equally its responsible for the same amount as bad as anything else, So I find it intensely interesting how focused people become with that. I enjoy calling out any particular group for its problems as much as I enjoy looking beside me at "X-other-group" and pointing out the only real difference here is most other religions etc have in some stage be it 50 or 500 years gone through some sort of reform that being a Muslim has not yet. Although, That faith in particular does have a curious pennet for segregation amoungst themselves and violence. Anyway, Curiously recently I purchased a Qu'ran to try get a better perspective of the "Real" islam. Admittedly I haven't read it yet as it was a recent purchase but fascinatingly and unexpectedly it came packaged with "Clear your Doubts about Islam" Which at a glance is quite an interesting little book in reply to recent controversies etc.. Anyway, Babbling. Love ya Mus.
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